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post #1 of 30
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i watched natural born killers again tonight after a lengthy period of time and noticed something wasn't quite right as i approached the finishing line, and that was that the nine inch nails track burn was replaced by another piece of music over the montage just before the end credits roll and the leonard cohen song kicks in. i'd seen this version before but was reminded again how much i preferred the nin track, it fit so perfectly with the insanity of those quick cut images. also that my ears were basically waiting to hear that music and suddenly it just felt kinda wrong that it was something else, mainly due to multiple viewing of the film with the nails song in place.

similarly, whenever i watch apocalypse now i always miss the destruction of the kurtz compound over the credits of that film. again, because it's the version of the film i'd seen since i was young and it had been ingrained in my mind and i naturally expect it.

both films aren't available in high quality anymore the way i'd originally seen them, though i think whenever apocalypse now appears on film 4 or channel 4 here in the uk they still show that cut.

snake in the eagles shadow is another one that i can no longer find with the original dub that i obsessively devoured over and over again on videotape in my youth.

anyways, i was just wondering whether anyone else had had these experiences and what they were as i'm sure there are many, and probably some that apply to myself and are not coming to mind right now.
post #2 of 30
People have told me I'm wrong and it's impossible, but I can verify for a fact I saw THE LOST WORLD in theaters with the bar fight scene intact. When I saw it first on home video, I wondered where that scene had gone
post #3 of 30
My first viewing of THX1138 was on the pan-and-scan VHS release. When the movie was released in widescreen format on DVD, I was surprised to see that there are closing credits that roll over on one side of the screen when THX emerges into the sunlight. I think I prefer the pan-and-scan cut, where all you can see is a lonely man staring at the sun, free for the first time in his life, wondering what in the hell he should do now.
post #4 of 30
When I was a kid the scene in The Wizard of Oz where Scarecrow pulls out a gun seemed far more prominent than it actually is. Whenever my sister or friends and I would be playing around as the characters, I'd always want to be Scarecrow and carry around a blue water gun. Now I watch the movie and half the time don't even notice it.
post #5 of 30
I saw Kill Bill Vol. 1 on DVD at a friend's house (not my first viewing), and the Crazy 88 fight sequence was in glorious color the entire time. I much preferred this to the black and white version, but I have no idea where this DVD came from or how my friend had it. I'm sure someone around here can fill me in.
post #6 of 30
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I saw Kill Bill Vol. 1 on DVD at a friend's house (not my first viewing), and the Crazy 88 fight sequence was in glorious color the entire time. I much preferred this to the black and white version, but I have no idea where this DVD came from or how my friend had it. I'm sure someone around here can fill me in.
Your friend had the Japanese import DVD.
post #7 of 30
I've been going mad trying to find the original dubs of old Jackie Chan movies - Police Story, Armor Of God, Meals on Wheels etc. They were absolutely hilarious and had Chan dubbed by some guy who sounded like he was 14 years old. First time I heard his actual voice totally threw me for a loop.
post #8 of 30
Superman The Movie: The version I was most familiar with as a kid was shown on TV with some scenes cut from the theatrical version. Namely the scene where Lex Luthor and his minions reprogram the first missile, implying they only reprogram one missile. Later, when it is announced that there are two missiles instead on one, and Superman is surprised by this information ("The other one! There's two of them?"), I assumed that not only is the audience is supposed to learn there are two missiles instead of one at this point in the film, I also assumed Lex Luthor *purposely* reprogrammed 2 different missiles in case Superman escaped the Kryptonite ("Yes, Superman. Double jeopardy. Even you with your great speed couldn't stop both of them").
Then again, the omission of the scene I described introduces some plot holes which always bugged me as a kid: why does Miss Teschmacher wear a blond wig when she reprograms the missile? I always assumed that Lex Luthor knew Miss Teschmacher's mother lived in Hackensack, why would he want her mother killed? Why does Otis have a black eye (then again, this was the Pan and Scam version, so I didn't notice this).

In addition, Otis's introduction is not when he is walking on the street. His introduction is when he is walking in the train station, where he is already being followed by the police officer. Since in this version of the film, we don't know that he was a police officer, I assumed that the audience wasn't supposed to know he was a policeman until *after* he was killed.

Superman II: I watched (and recorded) one of the Extended TV versions long before I realized this wasn't the theatrical version.

Superman III: I watched one of the Extended TV versions long before I realized this wasn't the theatrical version. I remember reading a review of the film, and one of the complaints was that the reviewer had problems reading the opening credits. I thought, "The opening credits to Superman III has the credits flying through space, just like the other movies!"
post #9 of 30
A way I prefer to remember a film? What is this Superman III you speak of? There is no such movie.
post #10 of 30
The real version of JFK does not contain the scenes of Garrison appearing on "The Tonight Show" with a fake Carson and McMahon, or the subsequent airport scene. Both are clumsy scenes that should have remained on the cutting room floor.

Oh and I'm pretty sure the scene with Clark running in parallel with the speeding train carrying Baby Lois Lane somewhere was not in the theatrical release.
post #11 of 30
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Oh and I'm pretty sure the scene with Clark running in parallel with the speeding train carrying Baby Lois Lane somewhere was not in the theatrical release.
It was in the theatrical release.
post #12 of 30
I totally saw that cut of BATMAN where The Joker got up and walked away after falling off the belltower. Honest!
post #13 of 30
I prefer the Blade Runner verison with the Voiceover, it kind of adds an old Noir feel to the film which I think suits it. Can't find that version anywhere now.
post #14 of 30
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I prefer the Blade Runner verison with the Voiceover, it kind of adds an old Noir feel to the film which I think suits it. Can't find that version anywhere now.
Really? The last release of Bladerunner includes all versions of the film, even the newest cut. It came in a collectible "briefcase". Dunno if you got that release in the UK, but I thought it was released everywhere in that edition.
post #15 of 30
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I prefer the Blade Runner verison with the Voiceover, it kind of adds an old Noir feel to the film which I think suits it. Can't find that version anywhere now.
I think you are looking for this version. Though I think it is only out on DVD and not Blu.
post #16 of 30
I have a friend who swears he saw the Tatooine Biggs scene on the big screen. Personally, I think the stills from that scene that appeared in the Star Wars Storybook are responsible for about 90% of the people who claim they saw it in the theater.
post #17 of 30
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I think you are looking for this version. Though I think it is only out on DVD and not Blu.
I hope that's not the only release UK got. They got gypped. We got the Ultimate Collector's Edition in both DVD and Blu.
post #18 of 30
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I have a friend who swears he saw the Tatooine Biggs scene on the big screen. Personally, I think the stills from that scene that appeared in the Star Wars Storybook are responsible for about 90% of the people who claim they saw it in the theater.
Actually, I was one of those people once. Growing up, I swore that I too saw the Biggs Tatooine stuff in the film. But you're absolutely right - it was the Star Wars Storybook that filled in those gaps in my toddler memory.
post #19 of 30
Speaking of Superman: The Movie, I remember that ABC used to show this as part of their Sunday (or was it Monday?) night movie every year when I was a wee lad, and it was an extended version. I don't remember if any of the other scenes from the extended disc release were in the film, save for one - the extra coda with Supes rescuing Miss Tessmacher from being lowered into the lion's den after Lex tells her he's doing it because he loves her. I remember wondering if I only imagined that scene after watching it on cable and VHS when I got older and that scene was suddenly missing. I kinda like the film more with it left in. It fills in the gap between Supes final resolution and him suddenly appearing at the prison with Lex and Otis. I thought it was a nice character moment for Tessmacher as well.
post #20 of 30
The mega-cut of Close Encounters that ABC would air was probably my favorite version of the film. It basically merged the theatrical and special editions, minus the interior of the mothership.
post #21 of 30
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I hope that's not the only release UK got. They got gypped. We got the Ultimate Collector's Edition in both DVD and Blu.
Well for £12 im going to buy it anyway
post #22 of 30
The theatrical version of Anchorman with Brick Tamland's "I ate a big red candle" joke. I was bummed that it didn't make the DVD cut.
post #23 of 30
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Actually, I was one of those people once. Growing up, I swore that I too saw the Biggs Tatooine stuff in the film. But you're absolutely right - it was the Star Wars Storybook that filled in those gaps in my toddler memory.
For *years* I was half certain I'd seen a scene where the Imam warns Indy about not looking at the Ark. I still can't really explain where I got this idea, but I think it originated with the big hard cover story book for RAIDERS which I acquired when I was about 9 or so. The thing is, I'm not certain if my belief in this 'warning' scene predates that acquisition or not


BTW: I've posted about my JP:TLW deleted scene thing on the board before but I couldn't find the thread to link to

To explain: Until very recently I'd only seen the movie four times in my life. Twice in theaters, twice on VHS home video

When I saw it in theaters, I remember one of my favorite scenes being one where the T Rex hunter defended a waitress from 'ugly American' customers harassing her. This added alot of extra characterization to the Rex Hunter character

When I rented the film on home video in 1998 or so, I specifically recall wondering what happened to that scene. I specifically remember wondering if it had been cut for violence, as the scene I saw in theaters featured a broken nose and alot of blood

It is quite literally impossible for me to have seen that scene anywhere other than the theatrical release. I wonder if sometimes editors get annoyed that stuff is cut and somehow a few rogue prints get sent out
post #24 of 30
Prefer the original dubbing of Akira over the DVD releases re-dubbing.
post #25 of 30
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The theatrical version of Anchorman with Brick Tamland's "I ate a big red candle" joke. I was bummed that it didn't make the DVD cut.
The DVD doesn't have my favorite line in the movie, Champ Kind's, "I woke up in a Japanese family's rec room and they would. Not. Stop. Screaming."
post #26 of 30
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Prefer the original dubbing of Akira over the DVD releases re-dubbing.
As do I. The new one isn't baaad or anything, but the original one is much more colorful.
post #27 of 30
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Prefer the original dubbing of Akira over the DVD releases re-dubbing.
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As do I. The new one isn't baaad or anything, but the original one is much more colorful.
You guys are nuts! I thought the new dub was a revelation. Not sure what you mean by "colorful", Judas.

Are you fans of the old Ninja Turtles cartoon, by any chance?
post #28 of 30
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You guys are nuts! I thought the new dub was a revelation. Not sure what you mean by "colorful", Judas.
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR...grrrrrrrrrrrrr

I don't know, the original dub treated it like a cartoon, whereas the new dub treats it more seriously. I think that I preferred the cartoon treatment.

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Are you fans of the old Ninja Turtles cartoon, by any chance?
I wasn't.
post #29 of 30
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I wasn't.
The reason I ask is because a lot of the same voice actors were in both, like they borrowed the TMNT voice cast for the dub or something. I found it really distracting, which was part of the reason I never liked the VHS dub. I also prefer most of the translations more in the new one. But hey to each their own. Too bad that audio is no longer available for those who DO prefer it.
post #30 of 30
I was wondering if anyone could tell me what the definitive version of Cop Land is. IMDB claims the directors cut feature 15 deleted minutes, which sounds more like the "throw all the deleted scenes in there" approach, instead of the "let's restore the director's vision" approach.
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