SUPERMAN CASTING TAKES TO THE AIR - Page 2

Until proven otherwise, I agree.

Both true.

Ben Thomas... Armie would Hammer Superman and Clark Kent because...he has already... shown he can play...dual roles. There are...two of him! [/fleed]

I gotta be that guy and say this is crap. Ledgers death elevated that performance. It's good but not worthy of the effusive praise heaped upon it. Vindication can only come when The Dark Knight Rises "tanks" relative to Joker's appearance.

TzuDohNihm, I like it. You also could've said, As the Man Of Steel, Arnie Hammer would be...Super...Man!

I'm just glad this casting notice has finally ruled out Hamm (who I think is a terrific actor) and will hopefully silence all those parrots who keep squawking his name whenever SUPERMAN is mentioned. He's all kinds of wrong for the role and the role is all kinds of wrong for him.

I am, however, totally down with the fancasting of Armie Hammer. I think he'd be a near-perfect fit. But I wouldn't mind a total unknown either.

I can't remember but did Big Blue punch anything of significance in SUPERMAN THE MOVIE? He seemed to have lifted a lot of stuff in that much-beloved film as well.

Gimme a break. I get it that you feel the performance was overpraised, and it's not the greatest of all time but Jesus h. Christ it's a great performance. Heath Ledger the human being is NOWHERE in that performance, it's all a creation; one that you cannot take your eyes off for a SINGLE SECOND he is on screen. Just because he didn't reach out of the screen and personally give you a handjob doesn't diminish the fact that it was fantastic work, regardless of his death.

I like this idea. Distance from SR, and trying to find the right ACTOR, not someone who resembles Chris Reeve. As good as Routh is, he was just a doppelganger. They found Reeve as an unknown back in the 70s and it worked like magic. They need to do the same thing if they hope to offset the mediocrity of Snyder and get my $15.

Well, yeah, Tzu, you're usually "that" guy.

And the only criteria by which Ledger's performance is judged worthy is a diminishing return for Dark Knight Rises? I fail to see the logic.

Nicolas Cage sits by the phone, steeples his fingers and waits...

I don't see how you can think Hamm is "all kinds of wrong for the role", then think Armie Hammer is a "near-perfect fit". Besides looking fuck all like Superman, do you really think he could make for a good Clark Kent?

"look like Superman"? Uh isn't the only requirement like be handsome and stuff?

He's got light brown hair! HE'S ALL WRONG FOR SUPERMAN WE CAN'T HAVE A SUPERMAN WITH LIGHT BROWN HAIR THAT IS JUST WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!! BOYCOTT!!!

I don't mind. And not the only criteria.

But you're forgetting they can just nab all the Winklevi CGI work from Fincher for Superman-Red and Superman-Blue.

Boy would fanboys have shit a lung were there an Internet in '76.

"This Chris Reeves dude is skinny, has red hair and he's gonna be Superman?!?! FUCK THIS MOVIE!!!!!!"

"They replaced Guy Hamilton who made the best James Bond movies with that dude who did The Omen?!? FAIL!!!!!!!"

Remember when Jim Caviezel wanted the role in Superman Returns? Man, that sure would have heightened the Christ-like overtones, huh?

Personally, I'm in favor of recasting the role with a relative unknown. I like Brandon Routh and I thought he did a serviceable job as Superman and a great job as Clark, and it sucks that he was in a bad Superman movie through no fault of his own, but I'd really like a clean slate.

Whether or not we ever get a crossover film with Batman, I think that's something they should keep in mind when casting Supes. Could this actor stand toe-to-toe with Christian Bale (or any of the previous Batmen for that matter)? Or better yet, think of the most intimidating, non-campy, and real Lex Luthor as possible (in my mind, it's a no-bullshit Ed Harris) -- can the actor share screentime with him and not get totally blown off the screen?

What I'm getting at here is Brandon Routh comes off as "young." Sure, he and Reeve were about the same age, but Reeve projects maturity and a total commitment to walking around in blue tights with red underwear on the outside that Routh could only partially fulfill.

Hamm should be the first name on the list if they need a Superman for a Kingdom Come movie. As far as this goes, I hope that whoever they cast is charismatic, and not the wooden statue Routh was. I flip-flop on whether or not I actually like him as Superman, but Superman needs more presence than Routh can give him, I think.

Also, Donald Glover should be Jimmy Olsen.

Did you see THE SOCIAL NETWORK? Considering he perfectly realized two entirely different characters, yes, I'd say he can be a great Clark Kent and a great Superman. As for looking "fuck all" like Superman, you realize there are these departments devoted to hair, make-up and costume that kick in at some point, right? Christopher Reeve was a lanky-looking hippy when they found him.

Hamm, as wonderful an actor as he is, has never embodied anything close to the essence of Superman, in my opinion. Hammer, in playing the morally-upright-yet-action-taking Winklevai, indeed fits the bill pretty well, I think. I'm not saying there aren't other dudes out there that are better than he is for Supes but Hamm ain't one of them.

Now, THAT is a much better idea.

And he's a helluva dancer...

He looks like a young Kyle Chandler, who would have been perfect ten years ago.

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True enough. Sorry if I came across as being a dick before.

Yes, I have seen The Social Network, and I liked Hammer in it. I have no doubt he could play heroic pretty well, it's more the stumbling, sort of geeky Clark Kent I'm dubious about.

If we can throw in Powers Boothe as Batman, you're on!

I'm sorry everybody... I'm sorry but...

PK, what?!

Shaft and RoF were 5 and 3 years ahead of Batmen Begins, respectively. RoF was a slightly larger budgeted entry from a director known primarily for sci-fi work. Also, mainstream?! How??

(sigh)



On topic, they're not gonna pay for Routh. I guarantee you his agent set up a re-buy clause that greatly ups his pay for a second installment if he's picked up.

Also, he needs to move on.

Also, he already has.

Captain Awesome from Chuck, dying his hair black could be good. I also liked the Zachary Levi rumors.

I could get behind Awesome. He pretty much plays Clark Kent as it is. That Hammer guy from Social Network is a fun choice too. My guess is that they are going to find Routh2 or Reeves3.

While I'd still love first a foremost to see Zachary Levi get the part as I really do see him being able to nail both Supes and most importantly Clark (he would be SUCH a good Clark), I hate to have drunk the kool aid, but after The Social Network, I have to concede that yes, Armie Hammer would also be pretty fucking great in the role as well.

I'm calling it now ... Henry Cavill.

Cavill was supposed to play him along with Bomer and a billion others, eight years ago. Then it was Keanu as Superman. Then...SR happened.

Pure speculation here, but Warner Bros may be waiting to see how Henry Cavill handles the lead role in IMMORTALS, and how the audience takes to him, before considering him a viable candidate for the Superman role. That said, having met the guy, I can testify that it's like he stepped out of the pages of a comic book: he's tall, strapping, square-jawed and conveys strength and maturity but not cocky machismo. (Okay, man-crush subsiding...) There's a good reason he's been in the running for every character from James Bond to Green Lantern, and hopefully he'll soon get the break he deserves.

Of course, Armie Hammer would kinda rule too.

Hey, if Tom Hardy can fight a minotaur...

That's the problem, I can think of a dozen actors that would be a fantastic Clark. Charming, likable, would be able to be convincing as an ace reporter and a guy who is secretly a super-hero.

John Krasisnki would be a great Clark, but terrible Superman. It's tricky.

My top five

Captain Awesome
Zachary Levi
Jared Padelecki
Matthew Bomer
Armie Hammer

Armie Hammer would be a good fit for both Kent and Superman, but it would be impossible for me to say his name out loud and not feel goofish.

Two best sentences in this thread.

The only way to make Superman interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP1-oquwoL8

No more talk of Jon Hamm as Superman. From now on we only talk of Jon Hamm as Lex Luthor.

I was thinking Kieran Culkin for Jimmy Olsen.

Or Batman.

I'd like to see Routh get another shot personally. Everything that went wrong with Superman Returns was not his fault. The only mistake he made was being in the wrong movie.

As for anyone who thinks that his presence in a reboot would be confusing - it could be so simply explained by a small paragraph on the back of the DVD/Blu-Ray

Something like this...

"Brandon Routh is back as Superman in an exposive re-telling of the Last Son Of Krypton's origin, from Zack Snyder - Director of Watchmen.
Superman: The Man Of Steel. The legend begins again"

Easy.

Exposive? The porn version?

How do explain away the kid then? Cause I sure hope they'd lose that element...

OH MAN THAT'S AWESOME. Hamm for Batman is aces, especially if the next Batman movies are a little bit more lighthearted. He balances that tone well on Mad Men.

Oooohhh, that's BRILLIANT. The campaign for a Jon Hamm Batman begins here!

Jon Hamm is... The Justice League.

John Hamm is the Spectacular Spider-Hamm!

I hope I'm there when you make a spelling mistake...

Cause it's a reboot.