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Journalist infiltrates gay to straight conversion camp.

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The article in question.

I don't know what I'm supposed to do after reading this. I want to laugh at the absolute ridiculousness of this thing. I get angry thinking at those scumbags scamming these confused people off their money. I feel sad about those poor gay guys who force themselves into this bullshit again and again in vain. Such a shitty situation.
post #2 of 12
It is absolutely rediculous that "camps" like this exist. Great article. Thanks for posting it.
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I think I heard something about this on This American Life or Snap Judgment recently. It was interesting, because the reporter said he got an email from one of the "converts" demanding to know what give him the right to do something like this, and that they should have the right to convert if they want. All I could think was that these guys really do get brainwashed by these camps.
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Ugh, just sad really. I just want to grab those guys and shake them screaming "BE YOURSELF! YOU'LL BE HAPPIER!". If we lived in a just world "camps" like those would be closed down and the councillors would be jailed for fraud. Maybe then they can "be a man" to there cellmates. Fuckers...
post #5 of 12
So i wonder what the camps for women are like? Yeah this article makes me angry.
post #6 of 12
That is one helluva read...

Damn.

It kinda sounds like a more ramped up version of the teenage come-to-Jesus stuff that I attended back in middle school and high school.
post #7 of 12
NVM
post #8 of 12
I'm guessing you remembred your confidentiality agreement, Tzu?
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I'm guessing you remembred your confidentiality agreement, Tzu?

Nice. Thank you for the laugh. That was awesome. It was actually this:

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So i wonder what the camps for women are like?


So, uh, yeah.
post #10 of 12
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So i wonder what the camps for women are like? Yeah this article makes me angry.
I would watch the movie adaptation

ETA:

[IMG]Girl Interrupted pic[/IMG]
post #11 of 12
That place sounds gayer than the Anvil back in the day.
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In one of the final exercises for the night, we form another circle in the middle of the room. (We end up doing this circle thing a lot.) Staff members pass out black cloth blindfolds, which we tie around our eyes. With the blindfolds in place, staff men squeak their sneakers and bounce basketballs on the hard floor, recreating the sounds from a busy high-school gym class.

They yell out the the kind of shit-talk typical of high-school kids:

“C’mon, take the shot!”

“You suck!”

“How did you miss that?”

“Why are you always picked last?”

“Okay, let’s hit the showers.”

When we remove our blindfolds, I see that many of the Journeyers are shaken up. The exercise has awoken some terrible adolescent memories. With tears streaming down some of our faces, we follow staff members into an adjoining, smaller, carpeted room.
That is so fucked up I don't even know what to say. So I guess the "cure" to being gay means that you have to lose every little bit of self confidence you've gained in your life.

Also the part where the men are supposed to blame it all on their father and physically beat up a proxy disturbs and saddens me.

I'm a Christian and long ago decided that any person who treats being gay as worse than being a murderer needs to have some serious therapy. The Bible was not written by God, it was written by people an account of events, & rewritten by many other people over the years. It probably differs from the actual events in the same way a Disney movie differs from the original fairytale. Have you ever read the Princess and the Frog? or the original Little Mermaid?

Personally I try to stick with the golden rule and take everything else with a grain of salt. In my opinion the Bible should be approached as the best record christians have, not as the final word.

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I apologize, normally I keep my religious views to myself and view anyone who brings up their religious beliefs (or lack thereof) in a conversation as rude. This article just really got my blood boiling.
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