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R.E.M. - Collapse into Now (spring 2011)

post #1 of 57
Thread Starter 
Because a new R.E.M. album deserves its own thread.

Official tracklist was revealed today on their Facebook page:

1. Discoverer
2. All The Best
3. Uberlin
4. Oh My Heart
5. It Happened Today
6. Every Day Is Yours To Win
7. Alligator Aviator Autopilot Antimatter
8. Walk It Back
9. Mine Smell Like Honey
10. That Someone Is You
11. Me, Marlon Brando, Marlon Brando and I
12. Blue

I want to hear tracks 7 and 11 just going by their song titles.
post #2 of 57
I want to hear 6, 7, 9 and 11
post #3 of 57
I want to hear all of them 'cause I'm a greedy bugger.
post #4 of 57
7. Deleted Verses From It's The End Of The World As We Know It
post #5 of 57
Thread Starter 
Nice article in January's Q Magazine about the new album. I cut & pasted the article from a PDF file:

Summer 2010 found R.E.M. ensconced in Hansa
Studios, Berlin – the legendary recording
location where David Bowie made his landmark
“Heroes” album in 1977 and U2 reinvented
themselves at the dawn of the ’90s with Achtung
Baby – working on their 15th studio album, due April 2011
and entitled, as enigmatically as ever, Collapse Into Now.

“Great records were made there and I’m sure horrible
records were made there, too,” laughs guitarist Peter Buck,
“but you think about the good ones.”

Following on from their career-reinvigorating 2008 album
Accelerate, which saw R.E.M. return to first principles with
a set of vital, pared-down, uptempo rock songs, the trio found
themselves keen to stretch their sonic range again for its
follow-up. “With Accelerate, we wanted to make a statement,”
says Mike Mills. “With this record, there were no rules.”

In Berlin, Buck and Mills managed to resist the pull of the
city’s nightlife (although the latter admits he dined out nightly
on “wurst of every kind”), while their more socially-active
frontman Michael Stipe – currently in one of his habitual
“non-interview modes” – tended to hit the bars and clubs post-
sessions. During these nocturnal wanderings Stipe hung out
with electro artist and city resident Peaches and went to see
Pearl Jam, roping in the former to contribute guest vocals
on propulsive rocker Alligator Aviator Autopilot Antimatter,
while the latter’s frontman, Eddie Vedder, can be heard on the
driving It Happened Today.

Preliminary sessions for Collapse Into Now began in
November 2009 at The Music Shed in New Orleans. For Buck,
who visited the city only five months after Hurricane Katrina
hit in 2005, it was reassuring to discover that the place had
reclaimed its unique atmosphere.

“Five months after, it was a ghost town,” he recalls. “You’d
hear gunshots at night. After six at night, the front door of
the hotel would be locked and guarded by a guy with a gun.
This time, it’s really come back. The music scene is really
happening. It still has the same vibe.”

R.E.M. captured the local musical flavour in Oh My Heart,
a ballad with a New Orleans funeral march feel that recalls the
Eastern European-tinged indie folk of Beirut. For the track
Stipe conjured up a lyric that follows on from Accelerate’s
Houston, with its central character relocated this time to
the Louisiana city. Elsewhere, opener Discoverer sounds
like a great lost out-take from Green, while All The Best is,
as Mills puts it, a “balls-to-the-wall rocker” that bears all the
hallmarks of a classic R.E.M. single.

One after-hours party in New Orleans, meanwhile, which
found a refreshed Stipe and Mills return to the latter’s room
with a group of friends and set to work using the in-suite piano,
resulted in moody mid-pacer Walk It Back, subsequently
nailed in one take the following morning. “We listened back
to it a week later,” Buck explains, “and we said, It’s kind of
fucked-up in a whole lot of ways, but we couldn’t better it.”

Final overdubs and mixing for the record, once again
helmed by Accelerate co-producer Jacknife Lee, took place at
Blackbird Studios in Nashville, the city being an old haunt of
R.E.M.’s since the early ’80s. During these sessions, punk icon
and former R.E.M. collaborator Patti Smith flew down from
New York to add her voice to brooding closer Blue, the final
words of which lend the album its title.

“Naming the thing is always the hardest,” says Buck. “Patti
was looking at the lyric sheet and she said, How about Collapse
Into Now? So Patti named it and you’ve gotta go with what
Patti says.”

Ask the pair where they feel Collapse Into Now fits into
the R.E.M. catalogue and it’s immediately clear that they are
buzzing on the finished record.

“I think it’s probably as good as anything we’ve ever done,”
says Mills. “It’s got the energy of Accelerate, but it’s much
more diverse in the same sense that Automatic For The People
was diverse.”

“We’ve never made a record that has 12 songs as good as
this,” Buck concludes. “I don’t think we’ve been as excited
about a record in the last 20 years.”
post #6 of 57
We’ve never made a record that has 12 songs as good as
this
,” Buck concludes.


That's a bold statement.
post #7 of 57
Thread Starter 
Yeah, it is. And I can't put too much weight into it, no matter how much I love R.E.M. How many times have bands said "this is the best thing we've ever done" and the final result leaves you pretty underwhelmed? Could be the high from just having finished an exciting recording process.
post #8 of 57
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Originally Posted by Ray Abed View Post
How many times have bands said "this is the best thing we've ever done"
I just researched this, and as it turns out it's EVERYONE WHO HAS EVER RELEASED AT LEAST A SECOND ALBUM.
post #9 of 57
Yeah, I was burned when Stipe called AROUND THE SUN "DOCUMENT-esque". But reading that makes me excited. I adored ACCELERATE.
post #10 of 57
It'd be awesome if one of these bands ever said "we'd rank this about 7th or 8th in our discography" before release.
post #11 of 57
This year's Christmas fan club packages are out. It's got the usual mix of goodies.
post #12 of 57
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Originally Posted by Count Floyd View Post
It'd be awesome if one of these bands ever said "we'd rank this about 7th or 8th in our discography" before release.
Bowie's been lying and saying "This one picks up where Scary Monsters left off" since 1987. No shit.
post #13 of 57
Download new song:

http://remhq.com/get-discoverer.php

Edit: Not in love with it. Reminds me of "Monster" in not the best ways.
post #14 of 57
Sounds more "Document" than "Monster" to me. I like it, but some of that may be initial giddiness. I'll check back in when I've lived with it for a while.
post #15 of 57
The music is very promising. It's good to hear that the album will be loud and rocking, but with a sound different from Accelerate. But Stipe's lyrics and vocals are pretty terrible. Someone really needs to explain to him that his voice is singularly unique and that it's a shame to waste it talking and shouting. In this respect, it does indeed recall the worst of Monster. However, the line "With just the slightest bit of finesse, I might have made a little less mess" is great. Stipe should have just repeated this instead of shouting.
post #16 of 57
It's okay, but to be honest I've never found REM all that interesting as a 'rock' band and kind of wish their comeback attempts didn't so often involve going back to that side of their sound.

They get a lot of shit thrown at them but for my money Up and Reveal were by far the most worthwhile of their post Automatic records. They were still trying to push themselves in new directions with those.
post #17 of 57
Time's been kind to a lot of Reveal. I haven't bothered with Up since 1998, though.
post #18 of 57
Up had a few too many mopey dirges on it, but any album with Daysleeper, Hope, You're In The Air, Airportman etc on it is alright by me. Great songs. Plus I just enjoy all those mellow organ tones.
post #19 of 57
Those albums both have a lot of songs I like. The wheels didn't fully come off until Around the Sun. I even like the first three songs there, but then I have to turn it off.
post #20 of 57
Thread Starter 
Guys, I LOVE this new tune. But then again, I'm a HUUUUGE fan of Monster, an album that showcased R.E.M. rockin' to the very hardcore just about better than any contemporary band at the time. It pains me just how underrated that album is.

'Discoverer' actually sounds like a mishmash of Monster era and New Adventures in Hi-Fi era to me. Both of those albums are in the upper tier R.E.M. for me. So, yeah, I'm pumped right about now.

It gets better with every listen.
post #21 of 57
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Originally Posted by Misfit View Post
This year's Christmas fan club packages are out. It's got the usual mix of goodies.
Does Stipe not like Christmas songs (second year in a row Mills is singing), or is it a Bill Berry issue (he's drumming on "Christmas (Baby Please Come Home)", but is absent on the instrumental track where Stipe is credited)?
post #22 of 57
I wondered about that, too. I don't know of any beef between Berry and Stipe. Maybe Stipe just doesn't like the Christmas songs. He didn't sing on the cover of Big Star's "Jesus Christ" from a few years back, either.
post #23 of 57
Probably just a timing thing with Berry; he's gotten back with them for various performances, including the #9 Dream John Lennon cover for a Darfur benefit album.
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post #25 of 57
Hurm. Do we need Republicans back in office for R.E.M. to be awesome again? A disappointing Democrat doesn't seem to be cutting it.

I kid, I kid. This ain't Accelerate yet, though.
post #26 of 57
I kinda fucking love it, actually. Sounds like an IRS release.
post #27 of 57
I like it too. Didn't pay much attention yet to the lyrics, but the music sounded great.
post #28 of 57
Thread Starter 
Yeah, Phil, you're outnumbered. Thumbs up from me. Stipe's vocals are still robust after all these years. Only if I didn't know Vedder was supposed to be on there, I wouldn't have noticed.
post #29 of 57
It's really good. I'd say it's the first song to feature the quintessential R.E.M. sound since Automatic, or at least New Adventures. It's very Out of Time. In fact, it's better than most of Out of Time. Still, the weak link remains Stipe's lyrics, although they're better here than on Discoverer. I wish the band had never hit it big and catapulted him into celebrity culture.

Also, album trailer.
post #30 of 57
You guys are all automatons. It's not even as good as the fifth best song on "Accelerate." But I'm not into shitting on the parade, enjoy.
post #31 of 57
Thread Starter 
No shitting, involved. You're entitled to your opinion. My enthusiasm may very well change once the music actually sits with me. Granted, I wouldn't put any of these two songs on the same caliber as most of New Adventures in Hi-Fi or Automatic for the People, but I dig the music in general.
post #32 of 57
This one's growing on me more than the last one, no doubt. But my old refrain is "I wish Stipe would start mumbling again."
post #33 of 57
Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying this is of the same caliber as New Adventures or Automatic. It merely sounds like R.E.M. sounded 15+ years ago, which is great. And yes, Stipe needs to start mumbling again.
post #34 of 57
Thread Starter 
If this ends up being The Stones' A Bigger Bang instead of Bob Dylan's "Love and Theft", I'll be content. As long as we don't get Blondie's No Exit. But a Tango in the Night ala Fleetwood Mac would really satisfy me.

Make sense to anyone else other than me?
post #35 of 57
Sadly, yes.
post #36 of 57
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Misfit View Post
Sadly, yes.
Hey, Tango in the Night is a GREAT album! DaveB, where are you when I need you?
post #37 of 57
No, I just meant sadly in that I'm also musically nerdy and old enough to have followed that whole analogy. And I think I'm in agreement.
post #38 of 57
Thread Starter 
I knew there was a reason you were always one of my fave Chewers, Misfit. Heh.
post #39 of 57
New song streaming at NPR. Too bad it's just more of Stipe talking.
post #40 of 57
Song's not a knockout, but love the way that chorus sounds.
post #41 of 57
All of these songs sound like they could've been released as the follow up to Automatic if they'd chosen to play it safe back then - "Out Of Time" would've been a good album title if they hadn't used it already. But this's not necessarily an unpleasant thing.
post #42 of 57
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Originally Posted by Paul C View Post
All of these songs sound like they could've been released as the follow up to Automatic if they'd chosen to play it safe back then - "Out Of Time" would've been a good album title if they hadn't used it already. But this's not necessarily an unpleasant thing.
It's a good thing, in my book. I'm a fair-weather REM fan; my favorites by them are Lifes Rich Pageant and Automatic.
post #43 of 57

Discoverer is REM's weakest ever first song released from an album, and I'm a long time Huge fan of REM who even likes Around the Sun.

 

There i said it....

 

post #44 of 57
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Originally Posted by Lloyd Dobler View Post

Discoverer is REM's weakest ever first song released from an album, and I'm a long time Huge fan of REM who even likes Around the Sun.

 

There i said it....

 



Would these really count as singles releases, though? They're just trickling stuff out. I'll be curious to see what gets the full on single push. So far, none of these are home runs.

post #45 of 57

The first American single will be Mine Smell Like Honey. You can hear a snippet of it in the trailer I posted earlier.

post #46 of 57
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Originally Posted by Highway 61 View Post

The first American single will be Mine Smell Like Honey. You can hear a snippet of it in the trailer I posted earlier.



Thats good news because Discoverer is like a weak B-Side off the bonus disc from In Time - The Best Of....

post #47 of 57
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Originally Posted by Highway 61 View Post

The first American single will be Mine Smell Like Honey. You can hear a snippet of it in the trailer I posted earlier.

 

 

 

Thoughts?  I like the energy of it, and Buck's guitars still jazz me, but I dunno, I guess I'm kinda saddened by a band whose lyrics we debated in our youth now releasing "lyric videos" for every single song off the album so far.  And these lyrics aren't doing a ton for me.

post #48 of 57

Like it a lot, don't love it. I can see why it was the safe choice for the single--has all the ingredients for an R.E.M. song.

 

Word round the campfire is they may not tour for this one. Not a huge shock since they toured extensively for Accelerate, but still a bummer.

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Anybody else getting the feeling this it? Contract is up, no tour, and I get the feeling Buck and Mills have more fun with their side projects.

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