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In The Mouth of Madness Knocked Me On My Ass

post #1 of 25
10/25/02 at 3:11am
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I'm speechless. I have no words. Other than that this is a deeply affecting movie that has ten times the power (for me) than THE THING. While The Thing is a movie that scares the crap out of you, this movie got in my head and stayed there. It will fuck you up.
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post #2 of 25
10/25/02 at 3:17am
Great movie, and some of my favorite Carpenter music too. I'm listening to the main theme right now... the old air guitar is taking some serious punishment.
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post #3 of 25
10/25/02 at 8:47am
SACRILEDGE!!!!

The infidel known as "RathBandu: Gone Rogue" must be severely tortured for his blasphemy against JC’s "THE THING".

First we have to put his head in a vice, tighten it just enough that his skull is under the right pressure, then eviscerate him, remove his toe nail with cardboard knife, pierce his testicle with dry wall nails and we must cut open his eyelids, then release him from the vice and let him walk around tripping over his own entrails.

Now no more talk against "The Thing" or we offer your battered body to father Dagon.

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post #4 of 25
10/25/02 at 9:39am
The movie creeped me out too when it first came out. Best non-Lovecraft-yet-oh-so-Lovecraftian movie I've seen. The kid on the bike gave me the heebie-jeebies big time, as did the presto-chango painting in the hotel. *shudder*

Good flick.
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post #5 of 25
10/25/02 at 9:43am
And to think this is just a spec that Mike De Luca tossed off in his spare time...

..not that I'm jealous of the man or anything...
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post #6 of 25
10/25/02 at 9:43am
Completely underappreciated film.
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post #7 of 25
10/25/02 at 9:43am
yeah ok it was good, sure I liked too.

But all you ghouls & gals repeat after me "it ain't as good as the Thing".



Cheers!

oh and TGIF!
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post #8 of 25
10/25/02 at 10:11am
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Straxboy - An Anthony Hickox Film:
And to think this is just a spec that Mike De Luca tossed off in his spare time...

..not that I'm jealous of the man or anything...
The image of Mike De Luca tossing himself off now fills my vision. Thanks a fucking bunch.
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post #9 of 25
10/25/02 at 10:36am
Seriously, the man cums scripts - paper, ink, even 3 brads !

Not in Courier 12 point though, so he has to re-type them.
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post #10 of 25
10/25/02 at 10:36am
Um...gross.

I remember hating 'In The Mouth...' the first time I saw it. HATED it. Thinking back now, I really have no idea what my complaint was, but I was adament for the longest time that this was the worst thing Carpenter had done up to that point.

Needless to say my proverbial tune has since been changed.
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post #11 of 25
10/25/02 at 10:41am
It's a race to see which DVD Hastur burns out more, this or Aliens....
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post #12 of 25
10/25/02 at 10:43am
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Johnny Butane:
Um...gross. I remember hating 'In The Mouth...' the first time I saw it.
Sorry, but given the perverse direction the discussion was taking, you could have chosen a better way to shorten the title...
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post #13 of 25
10/25/02 at 10:47am
Yuh, sorry about that. Kind of set that up for JB right there...
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post #14 of 25
10/25/02 at 1:01pm
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Don't get me wrong, The Thing is fucking awesome, but I'm still creeped out by ITMOM whereas after a night's sleep, I was over The Thing.
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post #15 of 25
10/25/02 at 1:08pm
"enterview" - the time when SJR got reeeeaaaal close up with Byrne
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post #16 of 25
10/25/02 at 3:52pm
I see no reason to compare ITMOM to The Thing, as they are very different kinds of films. I will say that they are both on my list of favorite horror films. While The Thing is notable for its awesome mutations and gore, ITMOM exists more on a metaphysical level. I loved the whole concept of "what if the inmates were running the asylum" and "what's the distinction between reality and imagination." After all, "reality is nothing more than perception," a notion which JC really explores in this film. The scene with the kid on the bike: One of the most chilling, memorable scenes I've ever seen in a horror film. Put me on the list of people who absolutely LOVE this movie. In the Mouth of Madness rules!

"Do you read Sutter Cane?"
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post #17 of 25
10/25/02 at 4:01pm
Godammit, I gotta watch this movie again. I haven't seen it in...yup...4 years...dammit!

From what I remember, not as great as The Thing for me, but yeah, one helluva mindfuck. eek! Then again, things've changed in me brain last 4 years. Maybe I'll enjoy it more. A friend of mine seems to really dig it these days...then again, I don't agree with her that often.
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post #18 of 25
10/25/02 at 4:07pm
The scene where Duke Attredies turns everything urinal cake blue was pretty lame, but otherwise it's an interesting film, though the attmepts to break the interior of the film's fourth wall don't work for me as well as they do in, say, Cronenbrerg's eXistenZ. I love Carpenter but he doesn't get in my head the same way. still I own the film and enjoy it.

The Thing has moments of special effect work that seem to not be humanly possible. There are shots in that fear that make me turn my head in horror. That seem unimaginable, and unimaginably real.
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post #19 of 25
10/26/02 at 2:44am
The only Carpenter flick I've seen in the theaters (I don't want to count "Escape from LA"). My dad always made it a point to raise my brother and I on JC's films, so once we hit a moderate amount of adult rationalization, ITMOM came out and off we went. Gooood memories.

And fucking scary, to boot.
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post #20 of 25
10/26/02 at 2:55am
I liked this movie, but I wish it had been played more straight and not got into the "breaking reality" stuff. Basically I thought the creepy atmosphere was great, and the monsters, and all of that, but when they got into the "car appearing at the same place four times" and all of that jazz, I was done. For me, a movie isn't scary if you can do anything.

As an aside, I remember one of the effects guys coming to my college for a special Halloween talk, and he had brought some of the miniatures from the movie with him to show us. He had one of the old tentacle lady. That got me really excited for the film.
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post #21 of 25
10/27/02 at 2:37am
Gotta say, I really do love this flick. A terrific homage to Lovecraft. However, I have to say that the music, tho' really fun in its own right, was really inappropriate to the tone of the film. I really wanted something creepy and chilling, instead I always felt that someone had their headbanger music turned up too loud in the next room while I was trying to enjoy the movie!

The scene that sticks out most in my head, tho', is the scene of the old lady behind the counter. It was the very first time I ever saw a truly Lovecraftian vision brought forth into reality. A truly unamable horror brought to life!

However, because of the (IMHO) wholly inappropriate score, "The Thing" still ranks as my number one, all time, favorite, JC flick. ITMOM is probably #3, after "Big Trouble In Little China", of course...

Don't get me wrong, still love the score of ITMOM, just not while the movie is playing - if that makes any sense...
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post #22 of 25
10/28/02 at 2:32pm
Much more Ramsey Campbell than Lovecraft, I always thought, and much the better for that. However, it's striking individual moments never quite mesh to provide a unified vision of horror, and towards the end everything falls apart in a disappointingly dull and (unintentionally) anti-climactic fashion. An interesting failure, though.
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post #23 of 25
10/28/02 at 4:56pm
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cart00n needs an ink doner:
Gotta say, I really do love this flick. A terrific homage to Lovecraft. However, I have to say that the music, tho' really fun in its own right, was really inappropriate to the tone of the film. I really wanted something creepy and chilling, instead I always felt that someone had their headbanger music turned up too loud in the next room while I was trying to enjoy the movie!

The scene that sticks out most in my head, tho', is the scene of the old lady behind the counter. It was the very first time I ever saw a truly Lovecraftian vision brought forth into reality. A truly unamable horror brought to life!

However, because of the (IMHO) wholly inappropriate score, "The Thing" still ranks as my number one, all time, favorite, JC flick. ITMOM is probably #3, after "Big Trouble In Little China", of course...

Don't get me wrong, still love the score of ITMOM, just not while the movie is playing - if that makes any sense...
But the score is perfect! It's like a more laid back version of Metallica (pre-sellout). And there's that bit in the middle of the main theme when everything goes all quiet and Lovecraftian and shit... then the guitars creep back in. It's fab. Yet another Carpenter job that sticks in your head all day long.
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post #24 of 25
10/28/02 at 5:30pm
Again, I say, I like the music! I just don't think it fits with the movie! I mean, if the main character was some kid in his twenties, or the bad guy was a satanic rockstar oozing his influence over our nation's kids, then the music could fit. But just about EVERYONE in the film was over forty! Head bangin' music just doesn't work for that! Not for me, at least...
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post #25 of 25
10/28/02 at 6:00pm
But what would you have instead? By the time he made the movie, Carpenter had already moved into his twangy guitar phase (see also EFLA and Vampires).

I think that heavy ITMOM score gives the film much more character than some stock "creepy" piano music or whatever.
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