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MOVE OVER LIZARD. VAN ATTER IS THE REAL BADDIE IN 'SPIDER-MAN'

post #1 of 35
12/3/10 at 6:10pm
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Spider-Man gets parents and a new bad guy

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post #2 of 35
12/3/10 at 6:12pm
Each piece of news that comes out of this project confuses me even more.
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post #3 of 35
12/3/10 at 6:16pm
And it gets even weirder...

http://www.badassdigest.com/2010/12/...er-man-villain
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post #4 of 35
12/3/10 at 6:16pm
Isn't Van Atter one of the Detectives who investigated OJ Simpson?
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post #5 of 35
12/3/10 at 6:18pm
Elisabeth Rappe, Spider-Man's Parents, returned before...Maximum Carnage, so that is pretty cool that they are in the film.
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post #6 of 35
12/3/10 at 6:24pm
Eh?

Well I have to admit I'm even more curious how this movie is gonna turn out now cause it's definitely turning into it's own beast (or Lizard?). And speaking of that, does this mean The Lizard is getting shafted again? Shenanigans I say!
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post #7 of 35
12/3/10 at 6:25pm
I'm getting a BATMAN BEGINS vibe from this, in that they seem to be re-doing the origin but adding more backstory, the way Begins added Ra's Al Ghul and the League of Shadows into Batman's backstory. I don't know if I like this idea.
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post #8 of 35
12/3/10 at 6:26pm
Campbell Scott is SM's father! Too cool! The guy is incredible. I can definitely see how his death could make a big impact on Spiderman. If nothing else this reboot is being impeccably cast. I may just have to check it out

PS Campbell Scott knows who I am. I've met him, on several different occasions. He's even remembered my name from one day to the next! It was one of the most incredible moments in my life

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post #9 of 35
12/3/10 at 6:32pm


I really liked that Untold Tales run but barely remember this.
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post #10 of 35
12/3/10 at 6:40pm
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Originally Posted by Princess Kate View Post
I can definitely see how his death could make a big impact on Spiderman.
Errr, you can see how the death of his FATHER would have a big impact on Spider-man? Insightful...

Just read that BD article and I really really hope that's not the angle they take. Rather just make it a completly fresh take on the origin, if your going to try and grab fans of the Raimi movies at least make it worth our while by doing something new.
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post #11 of 35
12/3/10 at 6:46pm
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Errr, you can see how the death of his FATHER would have a big impact on Spider-man? Insightful...
My point was that Campbell Scott is such a great actor that the audience would feel his loss and could relate to how his death would loom over Peter. Parents die in movies all the time, but without the right actor in the role sometimes it's hard to care
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post #12 of 35
12/3/10 at 6:47pm
Irrfan Khan from Slumdog Millionare is portraying this Van Atter, and Annie Parisse is his wife. Interestingly, her role is simply titled Villain's Wife, but I don't think Van Atter will necessarily be a thug. Irrfan Khan's presense suggests that he may be a corporate type who is involved in the work of Kurt Connors and figures into his transformation, or perhaps a fellow scientist who isn't exactly the world's nicest guy.
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post #13 of 35
12/3/10 at 7:02pm
God, I miss Raimi.

I'm still having trouble getting interested in this reboot, even with the nice cast.
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post #14 of 35
12/3/10 at 7:09pm
Carnotaur3, I love the casting for this...new Spider-Man. I think this could be better than...Raimi's Trilogy.
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post #15 of 35
12/3/10 at 7:09pm
I would be more excited for a Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends film.
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post #16 of 35
12/3/10 at 7:11pm
Casey Moore, I agree with that Idea. I am saying it now...Christiana Hendricks for Firestar.
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post #17 of 35
12/3/10 at 8:33pm
Peter's parents were in Ultimate Spider-man during the Venom/Carnage storyline and the clone storyline, with his father's work being used in for both and them shown in flashbacks (along with a clone who thought he was Peter's father).
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post #18 of 35
12/3/10 at 8:36pm
The more I read about this new film, the less interested I become. Do they really think anyone is going to buy this crap?
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post #19 of 35
12/4/10 at 2:08am
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Originally Posted by Draco Senior View Post
Irrfan Khan from Slumdog Millionare is portraying this Van Atter, and Annie Parisse is his wife. Interestingly, her role is simply titled Villain's Wife, but I don't think Van Atter will necessarily be a thug. Irrfan Khan's presense suggests that he may be a corporate type who is involved in the work of Kurt Connors and figures into his transformation, or perhaps a fellow scientist who isn't exactly the world's nicest guy.
It's a bait and switch... the dude's KRAVEN!





With an altered ethnicity of course...
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post #20 of 35
12/4/10 at 2:25pm
In the spirit of the holiday season, I would pay to see Emmet Van Atter's Jug Band Christmas.
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post #21 of 35
12/4/10 at 4:13pm
Proto-Goblin?

The fuck?
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post #22 of 35
12/4/10 at 7:17pm
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Originally Posted by E.T.C. View Post
The more I read about this new film, the less interested I become. Do they really think anyone is going to buy this crap?
To me it's the exact opposite, every piece of news I read makes me more interesting. The cast they're lining up is great. So yeah, they should think people are going to buy this "crap".
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post #23 of 35
12/4/10 at 10:16pm
Sweet! Campbell Scott is my best friend's brother in law, so I'll actually get to congratulate him in a few weeks.
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post #24 of 35
12/4/10 at 10:44pm
So instead of Green Goblin were getting fake-Green Goblin?
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post #25 of 35
12/5/10 at 12:52pm
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So instead of Green Goblin were getting fake-Green Goblin?
It could be a pre-Green Goblin type thing. Oscorp is working on the project that eventually turns Norman into Green Goblin, and this new character ends up being the guinea pig. The project goes wrong, and this "Proto-Goblin" is the result.

Could be interesting. Could be effective in setting up Norman Osborn for a two, or possibly three-film story arc.
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post #26 of 35
12/5/10 at 1:05pm
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Originally Posted by DARKMITE8 View Post
It's a bait and switch... the dude's KRAVEN!

With an altered ethnicity of course...
I dropped the same comment over on Devin's article. No reason at all why Kraven couldn't be Indian.
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post #27 of 35
12/5/10 at 1:08pm
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Originally Posted by NoMoreMrNiceGaius View Post
To me it's the exact opposite, every piece of news I read makes me more interesting. The cast they're lining up is great. So yeah, they should think people are going to buy this "crap".
Any Green Goblin use in this film makes it utter crap.
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post #28 of 35
12/5/10 at 2:08pm
They're probably working up to using the Green Goblin as Spidey's Joker in the sequel which, frankly, is fine with me. I thought they made him supremely uninteresting in the original, so why not give it another bash?
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post #29 of 35
12/5/10 at 2:15pm
I'm sort of seeing this as a pre-title type thing. Set a few years before the film starts, cold open with peter's parents, Norman Osborne and Kurt Connors all working for Oscorp, something goes wrong, they create Proto-goblin who kills peters mum and dad? Captain Stacey hunts down the goblin, gets injured in proceedings.

Skip forward, Pete is visiting Oscorp, gets bitten by the spider and then the whole plot is wrapped up in his weird family history. At some point Norman tests himself, turns into the green goblin, tries to kill Spiderman for some reason. Oh and he has to juggle high-school his new powers and getting laid.
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post #30 of 35
12/5/10 at 2:47pm
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Originally Posted by TzuDohNihm View Post
Any Green Goblin use in this film makes it utter crap.
But we don't really know anything about this film other than the cast they're assembling. Maybe I'm biased in that I don't like any of the Raimi films nor have I ever read a comic book (my only knowledge of Spider Man comes from the early 90's cartoon I watched as a kid), but I think there's still a lot of potential to this film that's being ignored. And if it means they're setting up Green Goblin for a sequel, fine. It's not like Willem Dafoe was amazing in the first film or anything. There's definitely room for reinvention. Just by looking at the cast they've assembled for this film, and comparing it to Raimi's, I'm sure they'll find an actor that'll give a performance that's streets ahead. Or maybe I'm wrong, this thing hasn't even been shot yet so who the fuck knows.
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post #31 of 35
12/5/10 at 8:16pm
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Originally Posted by Phillip J. Titsworth View Post
Proto-Goblin?

The fuck?
It looks like someone wanted to try and reboot the Goblins back when Venom and Carnage were so unfathomably popular.

Jesus, seriously, have fun with this film guys.
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post #32 of 35
12/5/10 at 8:21pm
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I'm sort of seeing this as a pre-title type thing. Set a few years before the film starts, cold open with peter's parents, Norman Osborne and Kurt Connors all working for Oscorp, something goes wrong, they create Proto-goblin who kills peters mum and dad? Captain Stacey hunts down the goblin, gets injured in proceedings.

Skip forward, Pete is visiting Oscorp, gets bitten by the spider and then the whole plot is wrapped up in his weird family history. At some point Norman tests himself, turns into the green goblin, tries to kill Spiderman for some reason. Oh and he has to juggle high-school his new powers and getting laid.
Yeah, but does everything have to be connected to everything else? I swear that's worst trend in franchises these days: the perverse desire to somehow have the hero and villain intertwined from Day One. Spider-Man went for, what, thirty years without us knowing how his parents died, and the character motored along just fine.
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post #33 of 35
12/5/10 at 8:24pm
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
Yeah, but does everything have to be connected to everything else? I swear that's worst trend in franchises these days: the perverse desire to somehow have the hero and villain intertwined from Day One. Spider-Man went for, what, thirty years without us knowing how his parents died, and the character motored along just fine.
Yeah, I certainly don't think what I posted is that good an idea, but its really the kind of thing I expect from this.
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post #34 of 35
12/5/10 at 8:27pm
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Originally Posted by themykra View Post
I'm sort of seeing this as a pre-title type thing. Set a few years before the film starts, cold open with peter's parents, Norman Osborne and Kurt Connors all working for Oscorp, something goes wrong, they create Proto-goblin who kills peters mum and dad? Captain Stacey hunts down the goblin, gets injured in proceedings.

Skip forward, Pete is visiting Oscorp, gets bitten by the spider and then the whole plot is wrapped up in his weird family history. At some point Norman tests himself, turns into the green goblin, tries to kill Spiderman for some reason. Oh and he has to juggle high-school his new powers and getting laid.
See, the problem for me is, and I know I'm not a comics reader but then most people who go to SM movies are not either, but what I liked about Toby's Spiderman was that he was an average kid from an average, broken American home who lived in a normal neighborhood who had this "great power and responsibility" thrust upon him with an accident forcing him to rise to the occasion. This convoluted backstory makes makes him seem like Luke Skywalker or something who was always destined to fight these evil forces
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post #35 of 35
12/5/10 at 10:24pm
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Originally Posted by The Rain Dog View Post
It looks like someone wanted to try and reboot the Goblins back when Venom and Carnage were so unfathomably popular.

Jesus, seriously, have fun with this film guys.
And I agree. It's just that mid-late 90's Marvel villains are ... mid-late 90's Marvel villains.
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