Transformers: Dark of the Moon pre-release - Page 2

I'm still not even close to forgiving Bay for the Cleveland steamer he dropped on us with TF2, but the teaser got me to the point where I won't be angry at my friends when they drag me to see this. Also, I saw chunks of this being filmed in DC, so I'm kind of excited to see those scenes on the big screen.

What were you expecting that TF2 was such a disappointment? You knew that it was a Michael Bay sequel, right?

Ken Savage, I still say only...James Cameron could properly voice, Unicron! Of course the 2nd pick would be...Michael Bay himself.

http://chud.com/articles/articles/26...OON/Page1.html

EDIT: Also, I didn't want to be outright hostile to the trailer considering I haven't seen 2, but this trailer is ugly dick. I get that it's inside a long-crashed metal ship, but the fragmented metal aesthetic makes for big bland smears of gray.

I didn't catch the second installment either, because I had seen the first. The human eye knows ugly dick and bland smears of metal when it sees them.

Your article answers the question I came to ask; no one attached to the film in any official capacity has mentioned Unicron, and we're just assuming the identity of Menacing Moon Robot. We should all probably stop that. It's Cloverfeld as a Voltron movie all over again.

Guys, "Was the dark of the moon" is the first line of the song "Convoy," and I'm not about to sit here and let the lyrical genius of C.W. McCall be tarnished like this.

Really? Do you not see the significant drop in quality between the first and second film?

No, not really. They're both turds. If you like them, that's cool and I understand it, but as far as movies go, they're both terrible.

Heh, yeah, there's like a big honking robot right there in the foreground of the frame and it blends right in with the rest of the wreckage.

Are you sure that's supposed to be a robot in the foreground? I would've just assumed that it's part of the debris. But yeah, I agree on the general messiness of the robot designs.

Thanks to Renn's youtube link, I just watched the teaser. I actually really liked the concept of it. Nice mood. And way to mimic the Inception score!

No. Just no.

First film was, by an artistic standards, a steaming pile...and yet it worked. It was fun, the effects were amazing and seamless, and Bay's ludicrous depictions of the military, government and human beings were somehow made enjoyable.

Second film was the equivalent of someone making you eat the fast food cheeseburger - you know, the one that's greasy and no good for you but tastes obscenely good - after a sick hippo puked and shat on it.

I have no specific love for the franchise, but Bay is certainly capable of putting together sleek, competently shot, big budget spectacle, and he mostly succeeds with TF1. TF2 is an incoherent mess of a movie that feels 3 hours long, is filled with grating characters, and showcases Bay's truly horrific sense of humor (dog sex, pot brownies, robot testicles).

Even if they're both turds, theres clearly a difference between a regular day-to-day shit and the explosive diarrhea you get after eating bad mexican.

It's a bot. If it wasn't for spotting the eyes, I would have just assumed it was junk. Renn, avoid Revenge of the Fallen. It's not even one of those that you can at least get some sort of visual stimulation from the effects work. It's painful.

The VFX Supervisor came to the Savannah fest a few years ago, and showed a 20 minute effects sizzle real from the film with breakdowns and such on an 85" flatscreen. I figured I couldn't really do any better than that by actually watching the movie, so I left it alone.

Oh! I see them! I forgot I could increase the size of the image. But damn, it was still like playing Where's Waldo. On the NES...

And watch TF2, Renn. It's not as if you DIDN'T watch Battlefield Earth. Mwuh huh huh... Make a Late to the Party out of it. Rip it to shreds.

Trailer's ok, but after TF2, i cant muster up any enthusiam for this one, even in a "dollar matinee awful fun" level.
Also, i wonder if they will finally reveal if Turturro's deli co-worker got his new teeth.

Why does everyone seem to hate...Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen? It is an...Awe-Inspiring and Awesome tale of, Rock Em Sock Em Robots, continuing the Autobot/Decepticon War, on a new world (Earth), after theirs was devastated! I hope the big bad, is...Unicron! That would be so awesome!

Speaking of Steve Buscemi, wasn't Megan Fox's little slave bot in TF2 kind of a Buscemi analogue?

Pretty great teaser. Nothing short of being held at gunpoint will get me to pay to see this, however.

If it is Unicron, they really should get the guy who played Brain on Pinky and the Brain to do the voice.

So after the steaming turd that was part 2 they try to reign it in with some Spielberg conspiracy magic again? We got the "uh oh there were Transformers on Mars all along" teaser with TF1 so why now do this "uh oh there were Transformers on the Moon all along too!"?

And the designs are still shit. I remember me arguing about this when the first design concepts for TF1 leaked. You still can't tell them apart, the sillouettes are too busy and they need to overcompensate for the bad readability with overly humanized faces...still looks shit. And apparently Bay leaves the whole lighting job in those CG sequences to ILM...grey in grey.

The designs of the robots are hilarious to me because it seems like Bay and his staff put a lot of thought into making them realistic, like "so if a car actually came apart and turned into a robot what would it actually looks like? What sort of machinery would be running it?" ... in a fucking movie about giant robots from outer space.

Michael Bay's treatment of the robots is nothing if not absolutely ridiculous. Transformers 2 made the most unforgivable deviations with the female Transformer spy and one seemingly having an actual pair of balls, however.

wd40, Is it because, I have such...Eclectic taste in film, that I love movies, that nearly no one else enjoys? I just wish...Optimus Prime was actually in the teaser. I love the last shot of, Optimus and Sam, on the deck of the aircraft carrier as credits began to roll.

Draco Senior, Well, The new superior...Model, of Decepticon, was quite an Alluring addition, to the Transformers films.

I saw the 2nd one the other night on HBO and if the first is a 2 out of 10, the second is maybe a 1 out of 10, so yeah, the first one is like twice as good as the second one. That's a significant drop in quality, there.

I had just as much stupid fun with the 2nd as with the 1st. And now I never need to see it again.

Chris Hill, That low? 2 out of...10? To me...Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen was the...4th best film of, 2009! After of course...G.I. Joe Rise Of Cobra, Watchmen and Ninja Assassin.

Call it a hypothetical 2 out of 10, Duke. But note that was the score I assigned the first one.

I really can't compare these movies to any movies I truly like and respect-- they are dumb movies to me. I can't take giant robots seriously as dramatic characters that I should care about getting hurt or dying when they get blasted and Shia is off to the side screaming "NOOOO!"

But it's fun for me to watch special effects and explosions.

Chris Hill, I have been a big fan of...Super Robots, since the 70's. I watched Jim Terry's Force Five Grendizer, Gaiking, Starvengers, Danguard Ace, which were adaptions of the work of, Go Nagai and Leiji Matsumoto and others. There were Shogun Warrior toys, and Marvel's Shogun Warriors, Raideen, Combatara, and Danguard Ace. I root for these Rock Em Sock Em Robots, just as much as the human characters. I was glad, that...Optimus Prime was ressurected in Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen. Optimus Prime would have been a...Far bigger loss, than even, Foxy Megan.

Robot balls.
Part 3 of this? Why Mr. Bay here's 15 dollars! (I'm pirating Moon and Scott Pilgrim to watch later anyways.)

you better be joking about that last part.

I'm making fun of people who complain that good "nerd oriented" films always get snubbed while Transformers 2 makes 100s of millions.

Transformers had the Qatar opening scene.
TF2 had Ramon Rodriguez and Mudflap & Skids. All three of them will be back for TF3.

I really hope that's not supposed to be Unicron.

Fun Fact: 'Convoy' is the name of Optimus Prime in the Japanese Transformers cartoons.

Well Beaks seems to love the hell out the footage he was shown. According to him the action is shot way better than the previous movies. His piece on AICN made me go from "Fuck this shit" to "ticket bought".

I just wish all this money had gone on a MASK franchise. Then we could get creepy nerds moaning about how Jackrabbit's beard isn't right and Boulder Hill looks weird.

So there is a Michael Bay Interview (at the Set Preview that was mentioned above). I submitted it as news but I just wanted to point out that 3D might actually make this movie a much better Visual. It seems the way 3D cameras shoot makes it difficult to do a lot of 'quick cuts' (read:motion sickness) and so there will be a lot more wide shots of the action.

If the 3-D is good it could help to differentiate between robot combatants during the fights, too. I noticed, watching #2 the other night, that even in HD, when one robot is in front of another during a melee, the robot in front seemed to just disappear and become part of the robot behind it, so that all I could see was a mass of moving pieces of jagged cartoon metal.

Part of the problem is that each of the robots has little moving pieces all over their bodies, and even when they are shown standing or moving apart from one another, I often cannot tell where their limbs begin or end unless they are clearly extended out from the body in profile. It's a big mess.

Me too. Even if the movie will probably be warmed over garbage.

Respectfully, I think that's just a reflection of what you like. I thought it was a steaming pile and it didn't work for me at all. The action scenes were confusing, the design of the robots were garbage, and Bay's typical depictions of the military are more at home in gay porn than in any sense of reality. The whole movie was just stupid.

TF2 is even worse. But to me comparing the two is like comparing the IQs of two morons. Does it really matter if one is higher? They're both morons. The Transformer movies are bad movies. That one is marginally better is a nonstarter in my mind.

Anyone who pays to see this film deserves to die. Preferably soaked in lemon juice, sprinkled in sugar and eaten by ants.

After ROTF, there's no way in hell Bay's getting my money again. What a piece of shit.

And that teaser? Meh. I've seen better, I've seen worse.

No offense but this post just sounds so Phil'ish to me.

It is all kinds of win though.

Capone gave an Advance Review of this at AICN. It's positive.

 

 

felix, It is a good thing the Transformers Films are...PG 13, otherwise, there might have been R Rated pics of Rosie, risque enough, for her boyfriend Jason Statham to...Shoot Michael Bay, in...3D, for real!  WOW, It is just over...1 month til one of the...Jaw Dropping Awesomeness of Michael Bay's Rock Em Sock Em Robot Trilogy of...Bayhem, ends in a...Big Bang and Clang, of Heavy Metal, loud enough to test any action fans...Mettle!

 

What's with this shit?  Why does anyone deserve to die for watching a film, good or bad?  You realize people going to films like this directly allows smaller films to be made, and allows Hollywood to take more artistic risks, right?  

I don't think this has ever been true.
 

 

How is it not true?  Hollywood isn't taking artistic risks on smaller films if the big tent pole films aren't bringing in cash to satisfy their investors.  Unnecessary sequels, loud blockbusters, and derivative carbon copies of original successful films are the lifeblood of the industry.