The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - Page 41

Hmm, weird.  Maybe it's not unique and you can just buy another pair if you ever see one?

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Originally Posted by Trav McGee 

Just finished the Dark Brotherhood line the other night, and about Cicero --

 

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Who let him live and who helped him on his way out? I got sidetracked on the way to the Dawnstar Sanctuary (of course), and in some other dungeon I accidentally summoned my pet Spectral Assassin. Now, it was great seeing ol' Lucien Lachance again -- but MAN he just does NOT shut up. It was a pleasure when some random hag finally put him down for me. But among his maybe half-dozen lines of dialogue he insists on repeating every 60 seconds was something along the lines of, "I'll help you kill this Keeper if you need me to, but there's a disturbance in the Void; the Dark Father does not wish this." So, I took that as a sign I ought to let the lunatic go.

 

I was wondering if he'd still be there when the DB remnants relocated with the Unholy Corpse, but he's completely scarpered. And I'm dying to know whether there's going to be a payoff later down the line, or if other than pleasing some absentee, once-removed god of murder this was ultimately a consequence-less decision. Or would something nasty have happened right then, if I'd killed Cicero? (I didn't have a handy save to try it both ways.) Actually, don't tell me if there is. I'm okay with knowing there's a loon in a jester's outfit bouncing around Tamriel. He might even be harmless now. ...Right?

 

 

As for Cuchillo's morality in Skyrim, well, it's not an adventure, it's a bildungsroman (yes, I used the word "bildungsroman" in a sentence, and yes, I am very self-satisfied about that). He began as a bit of a lost soul, not ready for any sort of Grand Destiny, and resisted any attempts by Skyrim to elevate him, putting off meeting the Greybeards, etc. He didn't mind the newfound powers, though, and what they could get him. He went into a mercenary phase, largely for purposes of acquisition, taking random tasks and putting together stacks of money and real estate while getting in the good graces of the local powers. (And the universal powers; when in doubt, he always sides with a Daedra.) Took over the Companions on a whim -- although lycanthrope didn't suit him -- and managed to con the College of Winterhold into making him Archmage despite only having the most rudimentary of magic skills. Couldn't seem to make a dent in Windhelm, though, until he agreed to join the Stormcloaks. So although he still felt a modicum of gratitude and kinship from the events at Helgen, and had a general but unexamined alignment with the politics, he largely joined up for the dough. Some of the things he had to do in the name of this rebellion, however, hasn't sat very well with him, and after purchasing Hjerim he's taking a step back from the front lines.

 

He sunk into a bit of a dark turn then, when the slaughtering of a cruel orphanage mistress in front of her abused wards seemed to be a just cause, and not just some kid's violent fantasy to be ignored. When the kid who hired him paid him with a damn "family heirloom" dinner plate because that's all he had in that dark empty house, Cuchillo had had enough. And when the Dark Brotherhood came calling, it felt like a perfect fit in a world without rules or mercy. But after that final assignment -- and fulfilling the ultimate target's final request -- something changed. He'll make sure his leftover DB companions are taken care of, but he has no yen for anonymous murder any longer. Cuchillo's not ready to walk in the light just yet, though. He's made some contacts in the Thieves Guild over the months, and he's thinking some nonviolent structure could be what he needs right now. The guild has potential, and he's just the thief to make them reach it.

 

Somewhere down the road, he may even help Ulfric wrap up his mess of a revolution. Maybe by then he'll be ready to confront this dragon business he's been putting off. But tonight, gonna rob a honey operator's house and burn his beehives.

 

ETA: Holy shit, am I a nerd.

Cuchillo sounds like he's actually having a very similar heroes moral journey to Inius Roberio Goneld. Tho Inius has kept The Companions at arms length at this point and the College of Winterhold is simply that dominating structure behind the once great city he's now a Thane of.

Oh and guess what I found out about the civil war questline yesterday:

Oh and Dylan I hate to say it, but the Masque of Clavicus Vile is really frikkin handy when trading, much more than any Rueful Axe, and good ols Barnabus gets to live.

Seriously, I'll slice a couriers throat for his letters and have done unspeakable things for the Dark Brotherhood, yet no way no how will I kill a dog. Ever.

I still haven't met the greybeards, but as I was planning out my massive smithing/enchanting push now that I've finally hit 100 I read about that pickaxe that gives 5 smithing.  So I guess I might be trekking the 7000 steps tonight.  Mostly for the pickaxe, but I might talk to the greybeards while I'm there. :P

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Originally Posted by A-Pathetic 

I still haven't met the greybeards, but as I was planning out my massive smithing/enchanting push now that I've finally hit 100 I read about that pickaxe that gives 5 smithing.  So I guess I might be trekking the 7000 steps tonight.  Mostly for the pickaxe, but I might talk to the greybeards while I'm there. :P

Can you learn new shouts and capture dragon souls without visiting the greybeards?

Admittedly the only shout I ever use is Fus Ro Dah, which is really enough for me.

God the amount of people I've sent tumbling off of cliffs for my own amusement.

Aura Whisper is probably my most used. It's just so god damn handy in dungeons.

Yes.

 

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Originally Posted by MikeI 

 

Can you learn new shouts and capture dragon souls without visiting the greybeards?

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Originally Posted by MikeI 

 

Can you learn new shouts and capture dragon souls without visiting the greybeards?

Absolutely.  As long as you've killed the first dragon and captured the soul then you're good to go.  I believe there are specific shouts that you can't learn unless you advance the main quest but I feel like I've accumulated a pretty sizeable amount just messing around the world.

So when I hear thunder is that Frank Frazetta masturbating in heaven over the forsworn armor?

The Forsworn armor looks kinda crappy.  Then again, running around in my daedric armor, I look like a Power Rangers villain.

I've not yet found any armor that suits my usually shaped face and lanky frame. I often end up resorting  to equipping regular clothes + my dwarves boots of major stamina, my leather bracers of eminent wielding, my ring of major archery and my amulet of Talos (praise be upon him)

I myself find the Forsworn armor kind of delightful in all honesty. Makes me look like I should feature in a Mike Grell comic.

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Originally Posted by Workyticket 

 

Arjen, RD - I'm with you guys. RDR and Skyrim are mu highlights of the generation as well.

So, last night I decided to get stuck back into the Companions missions and... Not spoiling anything, but FUCK YEAH! Also, Fast Healing is possibly the most useful spell I've learned in ages, saved my arse several times in combat. The only problem is, I didn't get on till quite late so could only play half an hour. This really isn't a game that's satisfying to play in half-hour spurts; you feel like you haven't even done anything.

 

 

Yeah, I'd put them as the highlights as well.

Fast Healing is probably my most-used spell....fuck potions...i'm a magic badass with a mean one-handed skill who doesnt need them. And about short playing times...fuck I agree. This is the kind of game that is only satisfying if you're able to put more than an hour to two into it at a time.

Well considering an hour feels like five minutes, that's understandable.

Hit my 200th hour last night. That took 32 days. That's an average of almost six and a half hours a day.

Definitely a new record for me, but I think I need to tone it down a bit now - as in, actually do things other than sleep, work and play Skyrim.

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Originally Posted by The Rain Dog 

Oh and Dylan I hate to say it, but the Masque of Clavicus Vile is really frikkin handy when trading, much more than any Rueful Axe, and good ols Barnabus gets to live.

 

Seriously, I'll slice a couriers throat for his letters and have done unspeakable things for the Dark Brotherhood, yet no way no how will I kill a dog. Ever.

I created a save right before I did it...I'm tempted to go back and redo it and this time not kill him.

Yeah I definitely feel guilty for having killed Barbus. I didnt do much after killing him, for this exact reason. I'm going to go back and undo the terrible thing I did to poor Barbus the talking dog.

I un-killed him and feel so much better.

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Originally Posted by DJ Dylan 

I un-killed him and feel so much better.

It's a really nice little ending when you don't too.

Now go forth and slay couriers and little old ladies with abandon my friend - you've done your good deed in Skyrim for the day

"I'm a soldier not a politician."

Christ the Imperials are the most boring people possible. Having my new dark-elf mage side with them tests all of my self-control.

I don't know if his counts as an exploit, so I'm going to spoiler text it.

Why does everyone keep asking me if I'm sick?

I don't know.  Are you sick?

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Originally Posted by DJ Dylan 

Why does everyone keep asking me if I'm sick?

I kept being asked that and didn't have anything.  It turns out any alchemist will say you look sick to try to sell you potions.

And....I have Rockjoint. Sweet. All cured now though.

I think they might do it also if you don't sleep.  Or maybe if you're a werewolf.

No diseases, but I get the question to.

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Originally Posted by neoolong 

I think they might do it also if you don't sleep.  Or maybe if you're a werewolf.

 

No diseases, but I get the question to.

I never sleep. But a disease curing potion seems to have gotten rid of my Rock joint affliction.

I always dig those little dynamic events where you come out of a cave and some guy runs up to you, says "Here, hold this" and runs off. I especially like grabbing him by the shoulder as he turns to run ("Hold on just a second") and sticking my sword into his pancreas, then giving the gear back to the burglarized hunter who happens along shortly after. Vigilante justice is alive and well in Skyrim. 

I murder them both and take all their gear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xePlbc9QM8

Assuming dubstep doesnt give you seizures, you should check this out. It's hysterical, and actually a pretty fucking good track.

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Originally Posted by LaurenOrtega 

I murder them both and take all their gear.

 

 

"Mrs. Robinson, you're trying to seduce me."
 

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Originally Posted by Zhukov 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xePlbc9QM8

 

Assuming dubstep doesnt give you seizures, you should check this out. It's hysterical, and actually a pretty fucking good track.

AWESOME!

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Originally Posted by MikeI 

I don't know if his counts as an exploit, so I'm going to spoiler text it.
 

Thanks for that tip.

My trek to get my pickaxe has been taking longer than expected.  I didn't realize that I couldn't just get the pickaxe right away, I apparently have to get to the Throat of the World.  So now I'm actually proceeding in the main quest just so that I can get to the Throat of the World to get that pickaxe so that I can complete my smithing/enchanting plan so that I can go back to ignoring the main quest.

Whew.

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Originally Posted by mongycore 

Is there any specific place you can grab such a disenchantable weapon, or is it leveled random loot you find in dungeons or quest specific reward...I wants infinite money too.

I found mine in a random leveled loot chest. If you find a vendor with one of these, buy it whatever it costs. 

After hitting level 54 and untold hours of gameplay over the past several weeks, I only just discovered last night that the Greybeards:

I'm not even sure that merits a spoiler tag, it could be as common knowledge as "The Dark Brotherhood asks you to kill people," but it was certainly news to me when I saw that dialogue prompt. Hell, it almost feels like cheating. (Almost.)

Skyrim Update 1.3 is available now.

Update 1.3 Notes (all platforms unless specified)

• General stability improvements
• Optimize performance for Core 2 Duo CPUs (PC)
• Fixed Radiant Story incorrectly filling certain roles
• Fixed magic resistances not calculating properly
• Fixed issue with placing books on bookshelves inside player purchased homes
• Fixed dragon animation issues with saving and loading
• Fixed Y-look input to scale correctly with framerate

I also didn't see any crazy bugs, but took a break from Skyrim until this hit. Glad to be back in.

I experienced a strange glitch last night where for the course of two runs through a dungeon, I was getting one-shotted by bandits with steel warhammers. It was the weirdest thing, I'd come in, off a guy with an instant kill animation, and his buddy would just turn around and annihilate me. 350 health, armor rating above 500, fully enchanted... one-shotted by a guy that should be doing 30 damage. Three or four times. Then, suddenly, everything went back to normal. It was bizarre. 

I started swimming last night and I swam out to a far distant island off winterhold

I started to get freaked out, because every time my head would dip below the surface, I could see the depths of the ocean down there. One of my big fears is attack by sea creature, lurking unseen beneath me, and so I got about half way out before I decided it was a mistake to make the journey. I got to an island covered in snow bears and horkers, and then it got dark. That is when I saved and turned it off for the night..

There is still an island even further away, I don't know if I should swim for safety when I get home tonight, or go explore further into the ghost sea

I often wished for the inevitable mod for dragon-riding or boat-crafting so I could roam the seas. Could you imagine a game like Skyrim where you could straight up become a pirate for a while as a faction quest chain or something? Oh if only. It would be almost like playing that pirate-combat mod for Battlefield 1942.

I finished the main quest. I should warn people not yet there that you can and should talk to anyone available when you have a choice before progressing the last few quests (ie: talk to Arngeir or Esbern, stuff like that) or there's a weird quest glitch that doesn't really affect the game much but is annoying. I'd say more but I dunno how to use spoiler text!

What a ride it's been. Now on to Oblivion!

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Originally Posted by Trav McGee 

After hitting level 54 and untold hours of gameplay over the past several weeks, I only just discovered last night that the Greybeards:

 

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have their own radiant questing thing going. Got a pile of dragon souls in your pocket and no shouts to spend them on? They'll point you to a word wall (well, the articulate one will). I have to assume there's a finite number and I've only taken advantage twice so far, but that's a far more rewarding entry in the Misc file than "Kill the new bandit idiot who moved in, and while you're at it take out a giant living one tundra over, too, if you wouldn't mind."

 

 

I'm not even sure that merits a spoiler tag, it could be as common knowledge as "The Dark Brotherhood asks you to kill people," but it was certainly news to me when I saw that dialogue prompt. Hell, it almost feels like cheating. (Almost.)

 

 

208 hours and 51 levels in and I had no idea. I've been getting sent to those locations by random couriers that deliver a "letter from a friend" telling me where to go - obviously because I'm not visiting the Greybeards enough. Great tip, thanks.

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Originally Posted by ShaolinMK 

Skyrim Update 1.3 is available now.

 

Update 1.3 Notes (all platforms unless specified)

• General stability improvements
• Optimize performance for Core 2 Duo CPUs (PC)
• Fixed Radiant Story incorrectly filling certain roles
• Fixed magic resistances not calculating properly
• Fixed issue with placing books on bookshelves inside player purchased homes
• Fixed dragon animation issues with saving and loading
• Fixed Y-look input to scale correctly with framerate

 

 

I also didn't see any crazy bugs, but took a break from Skyrim until this hit. Glad to be back in.

But will it fix the backwards flying, glitchy dragons I only encountered after the first patch was downloaded I wonder.

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Xion 

I often wished for the inevitable mod for dragon-riding or boat-crafting so I could roam the seas. Could you imagine a game like Skyrim where you could straight up become a pirate for a while as a faction quest chain or something? Oh if only. It would be almost like playing that pirate-combat mod for Battlefield 1942.

 

That sounds like that'd be a quite fantastic questline for Elder Scrolls VI - especially if they went all desert/Elsweyr/arabian for their setting. "The full Sinbad" essentially.

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What a ride it's been. Now on to Oblivion!

I never finished Oblivion, and I realize now I can never go back.  I had fun with it, but the Oblivion Gates eventually wore me down.  The areas were ugly, confusing, and just took too long to complete most of the time.

Then you play Skyrim and realize that the dragon attacks are essentially this game's Oblivion Gate.  Except they feel more random, they're faster, and I usually have fun with them.  The improvements from Oblivion to Skyrim are sizeable to me.  Too much to go back now.

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Originally Posted by A-Pathetic 

I never finished Oblivion, and I realize now I can never go back.  I had fun with it, but the Oblivion Gates eventually wore me down.  The areas were ugly, confusing, and just took too long to complete most of the time.

 

Then you play Skyrim and realize that the dragon attacks are essentially this game's Oblivion Gate.  Except they feel more random, they're faster, and I usually have fun with them.  The improvements from Oblivion to Skyrim are sizeable to me.  Too much to go back now.

My little brothers given me Morrowind to try when I'm done with Skyrim but I just think it'd be too much of a step backwards and would irritate me too much. I get what a landmark important game it was and had I discovered it in 2001 things would have been completely different, but they're not. 

Hell, I have to gvet to Assassins Creed Revelations before Mass Effect 3 hits anyway - and at 208 hours I show no sign of slowing on Skyrim yet.

i'm level 81 all stuff maxed out and i finished the game there isn't that much to do i'm doing daedric quests right now. What else should i do?

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Originally Posted by Brandon Hawk 

i'm level 81 all stuff maxed out and i finished the game there isn't that much to do i'm doing daedric quests right now. What else should i do?

 

 

                                                                                               

By Azura, how many hours have you racked up?

I'd like this talking dog a lot more if he didn't sound like he'd just finished his 30th summer on the Borscht Belt circuit.

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Originally Posted by MikeI 

I'd like this talking dog a lot more if he didn't sound like he'd just finished his 30th summer on the Borscht Belt circuit.

As I mentioned earlier, that seems to have been a very definite decision.

Though if you happen to be raging anti-semite......which I'm uuhh..totally not.