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post #51 of 474
12/18/10 at 2:32am
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Let's say this happens. They better have David Warner on lock. I'd like to see him treat Cillian Murphy even worse than Pete Postlethwaite did in INCEPTION.

ENCOM OS 13 could be to Dillinger Jr. as the MCP was to Dillinger/SARK.
I'd heard they'd made enquiries but apparently David Warner wasn't interested in being in Tron Legacy.

One of the other rumours I'd heard floating about was that Jeff Bridges had thought a new version of Sark being Flynn's butler in his hangout would have been kind of cool.
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post #52 of 474
12/18/10 at 2:53am
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It's beautiful to look at, the music is one of the best scores in recent memory, but this movie is hollow, empty, and lifeless. Hedlund is AWFUL. A charisma black hole with the likeability of AIDS. Every other line out of his mouth is a shitty one-liner. No way in hell can I buy that he gets dropped into this world and can fight toe-to-toe with the most lethal programs around. Bridges is indeed playing The Dude, and Wilde is straining to make something out of nothing. The greatest slight against this film is that there is no urgency to accomplish the goal. We're told they have eight hours to get to the portal, but there is no sense of urgency to get there at all. We see them sitting on that train thing, chilling out, chatting leisurely without a care. They don't even have the sense to act afraid during fight scenes. It just rings hollow. There's never any real fear, impatience, anything that sells to me that time is running out. The ticking clock is used to the point of parody now, but this film needed something like that to get the audience involved in this quest. Maybe show the portal light dimming as time draws near. As it is, you sit and watch a bunch of cool-looking shit that would have been even cooler had we been invested in these people. The father-son dynamic is barely existent, and their reunion, which could have and should been a big moment, comes across as horribly awkward.

And for the folks who bitched and cried when people complained about Clu looking fake? Guess what? He looks fake as fuck here, and no amount of dark lighting can hide it in that 1989 prologue scene. I saw zero improvement between that trailer footage and what I saw tonight.
A big thing I thought they dropped the ball on was Rinzler. It wasn't a huge surprise to a lot of people; the really keen people correctly guessed who he really was from the earliest images released from the movie simply because he had red squares on his chest in exactly the same configuration Tron had blue squares on his in the original movie.

However, there's the expectation of waiting for the characters in the film to realise it and seeing what happens but instead of having some kind of showdown, cliche or not - we have Flynn Snr seeing him from a distance and saying effectively "Oh, I see Tron's not dead after all" in the same tone of voice someone asking out loud where their car keys were.

Then instead of something like the end scene with Clu and Flynn at one end of the disappearing bridge and Sam and Quorra having to get past Rinzler to the gate, where we know he has no chance of beating him in a fight; and Sam having to somehow cleverly convince him to let them past and trigger a memory of who he was (yes, cliche again but it could have been dramatic) - we just have Rinzler suddenly remembering "oh wait, I am one of the good guys after all" because of something Flynn said so quietly I'm surprised he heard it over the noise as opposed to all the much better memory jogging prompts he'd seen or heard up to now. Yet another event that seemed plot convenient more than anything else.

Finally, Sam's heard so much about Tron and his history, and how important he is but in the movie, there's absolutely no reaction or comment from him about Tron whatsoever, even when hearing he's alive.

I thought it was a disappointing handling of what you would have thought was going to be a big thing in the film. Well, at least relatively bigger than it turned out to be anyway.
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post #53 of 474
12/18/10 at 3:12am
Tron's change of heart mid-battle was laughably bad.

ETA: They also never set a clear boundary for Flynn's powers. We see him kneel and do some sort of power thing at the end, but HOW does he do that? And if he can pull that off, what else can he do? And why doesn't he use it more often? And why didn't he just do his little kneel/power gag when Clu first initiates the coup all those years ago?
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post #54 of 474
12/18/10 at 3:23am
In that case? All is forgiven father.

And then some!
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post #55 of 474
12/18/10 at 3:27am
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Tron's change of heart mid-battle was laughably bad.

ETA: They also never set a clear boundary for Flynn's powers. We see him kneel and do some sort of power thing at the end, but HOW does he do that? And if he can pull that off, what else can he do? And why doesn't he use it more often? And why didn't he just do his little kneel/power gag when Clu first initiates the coup all those years ago?
Well, Flynn as a User could build Recognizers from thin air (but you had to have seen the first film to know that).

That is a good point though, Sam as a User should have exhibited some kind of power you would have thought.

Quorra did say that Flynn could stop Clu anytime by reintegrating him but that he'd die as a result - which is what I guess happened at the end of the film when he had to do it to protect Sam. Is that what you were referring to?
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post #56 of 474
12/18/10 at 4:35am
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I found some entertaining Tron/The Big Lebowski mashups on this page. One's an animated .gif and the other's an image in the form of a comic strip.

http://www.tron-sector.com/forums/de...id=385449&pg=1
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post #57 of 474
12/18/10 at 4:41am
Wow, that was HIGHLANDER: THE QUICKENING bad. I'm still so numb from this film's nonsensical suckitude, it's gonna take me a while to piece it all together. But in the meantime...

Mr. Plinkett...paging Mr. Plinkett...
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post #58 of 474
12/18/10 at 5:37am
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Wow, that was HIGHLANDER: THE QUICKENING bad. I'm still so numb from this film's nonsensical suckitude, it's gonna take me a while to piece it all together. But in the meantime...

Mr. Plinkett...paging Mr. Plinkett...
Which Highlander 2 Version?

I was at least able to see it with all the parts in the right order for what that was worth.
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post #59 of 474
12/18/10 at 5:55am
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Tron's change of heart mid-battle was laughably bad.
Add to that, how exactly are we supposed to know that's Tron? Because Flynn makes the remark, "Tron, what have they done to you?" How did he even know that was him?!? All the minions were dressed the same, and Tron didn't utter a word until the afore-mentioned change of heart.
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post #60 of 474
12/18/10 at 9:41am
FilmNerdJamie, Well, Tron's last fight was with...Clu, allowing Flynn to escape. Flynn put 2 and 2 together.
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post #61 of 474
12/18/10 at 11:13am
It was an alright film I suppose. Olivia Wilde and the Draft Punk score are the highlights in this. Olivia Wilde sorta acts with her eyes here. Doing a great job in showing Quorra's childlike wonder.

My biggest problem was the design of the "Grid World". Everything looks so uniform and sharp angled. The color schemes are all a mix of Black, White and Blue. So much so that the whole setup looks boring as it goes along.

Skip the 3D. It's totally unneccesary. In fact the 3D Trailer for YOGI BEAR did a better job with the 3D effects. Yogi and Boboo are artificial CGI characters and the 3D effects do a good job in bringing them to life.
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post #62 of 474
12/18/10 at 12:21pm
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Add to that, how exactly are we supposed to know that's Tron? Because Flynn makes the remark, "Tron, what have they done to you?" How did he even know that was him?!? All the minions were dressed the same, and Tron didn't utter a word until the afore-mentioned change of heart.
I think it had something to do with Tron having wielded two discs (during the coup scene), and Rinzler doing the same. I suppose if I stretched my mind, making assumptions the movie didn't even imply, I could imagine a Program having two discs would be taboo. To have two you would have to have stolen one from someone else, or in Tron's case killed someone else. I liked the implication that they were trophies, but still...

I was with the movie the first hour. Right around the time they met up with Kevin Flynn, however, it ground to a halt. It wasn't so much the Isos that hurt the film, but their explanation. I think I understand why they could "save the world": they're human perfection in terms of athletic ability and intelligence, without disease, and able to heal with a few changes in binary code. If Quorra functions the same in our reality as in the Grid, yes she could be studied...but probably under the knife in a government lab.

I suppose any possible third movie would be the shady contingent of ENCOM trying to get both Quorra and the flashdrive away from Sam.

Anyway, not much more to say about this film that hasn't been said. Awesome soundtrack, solid first hour, horrible 2nd act and mediocre Star Wars riffing 3rd act. I seriously expected Kevin to yell back at Sam "don't get cocky, kid!", after Sam at the turret yelled "I got one!"
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post #63 of 474
12/18/10 at 12:26pm
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I'm really afraid that my crack about this being a $300m version of Serenity in an old thread may end up being true. We'll see how the numbers shake out.
I haven't seen TRON yet, but none of the criticisms leveled at it (TRON) in any way apply to SERENITY.
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post #64 of 474
12/18/10 at 12:49pm
One of my biggest disappointments was the representation of the city. Besides the End of the Line club, I really didn't get any sense of scale or structure from it, save when Sam was using the homeless Program to don a black hood that, to me, brought back unfortunate memories of the Eragon film adaptation.

Also, the so-so costume design...why was Gem holding an umbrella when there was no indication of a weather pattern, much less actual rain, besides the ominous storm in the background shots of the city? It seemed like such an obvious attempt to make the citizens seem "hip" to me, but I suppose others could see some logic in it.

And, most importantly, how was Quorra able to enter the real world with her identity from the Grid still intact as if she were an average human being? I still cannot understand how that would work so automatically, the moment they left. I expected her to be on the disc or something, but not physically the same. I was under the impression that, while human in the Grid, the ISOs would take on a different form once they entered the real world, hence the logic behind the cyber threat they could pose.
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post #65 of 474
12/18/10 at 1:12pm
I would have to see it again (and I won't be doing that) but I seem to remember in one of the terrible Digi-Suck-O-Vision™ flashbacks, Tron was shown wearing the same outfit that he later wore as Rinzler, only with white lighting. It's a subtle design, but the circuitry graphics on his chest was what I (barely) locked in on. I know they also wore casual clothes (!!!) in the Grid but since I had already been spoiled on the Darth Tron subplot, I was looking for clues throughout. But I was so appalled by how mishandled this film was, it's kind of all a blur now. And by the way, that's a pretty fucked-up way to half-ass the fall and redemption of this franchise's TITLE HERO. It really seemed like they were deep into making this film and someone asked, "Why is this called TRON again?"

Also, Young Flynn/Clu was even worse than I imagined. But what was strange to me was how surprisingly impressive and convincing it looked in the scene when Clu and his gang go back to Flynn's pad. Maybe it was the soft, Dave Bowman lighting going on but I have to say, if Young Flynn/Clu looked like that throughout the film, I might have bought into the effect.

Loved the Daft Punk score. Impressed by the visuals for a while. Chuckled at some of The Dude's dialogue. Moderately enjoyed some of the action scenes. And...um...that's kind of it. I'm fucking stunned that this screenplay was allowed to go into production and that this much money was spent making and promoting it. But I have to say, I think the most painful thing about this whole venture is simply the colossally wasted opportunity.
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post #66 of 474
12/18/10 at 1:19pm
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Also, Young Flynn/Clu was even worse than I imagined. But what was strange to me was how surprisingly impressive and convincing it looked in the scene when Clu and his gang go back to Flynn's pad. Maybe it was the soft, Dave Bowman lighting going on but I have to say, if Young Flynn/Clu looked like that throughout the film, I might have bought into the effect.
I noticed that too, Clu looked his best in that scene under that lighting.

He also looked better in profile shots, but oh man were those flashbacks poorly done. All the blurring and muted colors they applied didn't really save those scenes.
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post #67 of 474
12/18/10 at 1:35pm
I'm pretty sure that this has been commented on, but one thing I will give the film is its Wizard of Oz-esque parallels between actions in the real world and actions in the Grid: similar camera angles (Sam entering the arcade/Sam first entering the games after being dressed by the Sirens), incidents (the Grid guard catching Sam in much the same fashion as the police officer in the real world, with similar angles), dialogue (Flynn's speech on television compared with Clu's speech about destiny at the end).

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He also looked better in profile shots, but oh man were those flashbacks poorly done. All the blurring and muted colors they applied didn't really save those scenes.
I thought the effects were at their absolute worst in the real world flashback of Flynn's speech. He looked downright creepy.
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post #68 of 474
12/18/10 at 1:41pm
Felix, You didn't like the...3D? I think seeing, Tron Legacy in 3D, is...Essential, as most people will not get even close to the same 3D experience at home. Awesome film!
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post #69 of 474
12/18/10 at 1:45pm
Maybe it was my theater, but I didn't find the 3D to be that engaging. There were definitely some considerable inconsistencies, with certain action scenes in the Grid looking flatter than others and not as immersive, but I'm thinking of going to the better IMAX near my town to see if it's any different.
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post #70 of 474
12/18/10 at 1:54pm
Yeah, I have to say the 3D was pretty mediocre. The much ballyhooed transition from 2D to 3D was pretty meh. For all its faults, AVATAR really got the 3D right.
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post #71 of 474
12/18/10 at 2:04pm
Litmus Configuration, Except...Avatar, was a...terrible film, easilly one of the worst of 2009!
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post #72 of 474
12/18/10 at 2:17pm
Except that has little to do with the comparison between each film's presentation of 3D.
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post #73 of 474
12/18/10 at 3:23pm
What a dumb movie. I didn't violently hate it like many did, but it was just not good. I was immensely entertained by Bridges though, whether it was the ridiculous young CG Bridges that looked like he just stepped out of a Mass Effect cutscene, or old Bridges saying things like 'Radical!'. Some of the action was neat, but it felt like 2 big sequences bookending an hour of exposition dumps and flashbacks. Wilde was hot and Hedlund reminds me of a less-charismatic Sam Worthington. Interpret that as you will.

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Did anyone else think the score too often sounded like BATMAN BEGINS Lite?
Yeah, I'm sure I'll get my ass handed to me for this, but I wonder if people would be as excited about the score if they didn't know it was Daft Punk. There were some neat cues, and its certainly not a bad score by any stretch, but the bulk felt like the Zimmer's Batman stuff and the BRMMMMS in Inception.
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post #74 of 474
12/18/10 at 3:29pm
About the "two action scenes bookending an hour of exposition and flashbacks", I agree that the other action scenes seemed either unfinished or poorly executed in comparison, from the aerial battle to the surprisingly brief encounter in the End of Line club, which was your standard action choreography cut between Michael Sheen dancing. I suppose the motorcycle action in the beginning was decent enough too.
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post #75 of 474
12/18/10 at 3:34pm
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Maybe it was my theater, but I didn't find the 3D to be that engaging. There were definitely some considerable inconsistencies, with certain action scenes in the Grid looking flatter than others and not as immersive, but I'm thinking of going to the better IMAX near my town to see if it's any different.
I saw this in 3D IMAX, and aside from the lightcycle race, you aren't missing much. The sound system, however? PERFECT for this movie. People were grooving in their seats to the score, and the sound effect for that ship that picked up Sam once he arrives on the Grid blasts you back into your seat.

I also noticed that certain shots filled the entire screen, while others were ever-so-slightly letterboxed. It's not as noticeable as it was for The Dark Knight, but it's there. Don't know why.
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post #76 of 474
12/18/10 at 3:34pm
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Except...Avatar, was a...terrible film, easilly one of the worst of 2009!
My love for Avatar aside, many people are feeling the same way for TRON: LEGACY, so what's your point?
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post #77 of 474
12/18/10 at 3:37pm
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I also noticed that certain shots filled the entire screen, while others were ever-so-slightly letterboxed. It's not as noticeable as it was for The Dark Knight, but it's there. Don't know why.
I'm pretty sure one of the draws of the IMAX presentation was that certain sequences would fill up the entire IMAX screen. Not sure if it was actually shot in IMAX though.
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post #78 of 474
12/18/10 at 3:53pm
Alright, so since this is the post-release thread and nearly everyone here has seen the movie, I suppose it's OK to talk about the unexpected Cillian Murphy cameo?

As much as I enjoyed seeing Cillian Murphy in geek mode, I was incredibly disappointed that he was not more tightly worked into the story as much as he was a "THIS WILL FEATURE IN THE SEQUEL" tease. I was even assuming that there would be some clever twist involving his character's father, as unlikely as that seems, and the current state of the Grid, although I suppose that would be problematic because Kevin Flynn's initial commands caused Clu to pursue a warped view of perfection.

I really would have rather seen Castor or Dillinger's son as the main villains over Clu, who is interesting in concept but has no spark whatsoever in the movie. He's just distracting and his motivations are too boring, despite the attempts by the film to raise some questions about the pursuit of perfection.
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post #79 of 474
12/18/10 at 6:57pm
Yeah this was mostly crap.

There were some decent little bits of action, but that was about it.
You realize you're in for a pretty dumb movie with bad dialogue almost immediately. Everyone laughed at that sudden shot of the bumbling fat security guard walking across the gigantic crane that was dangling off the top of the gigantic ENCOM building. The whole thing feels like they were writing the script while they were shooting. Old Bridges' "knocking on the ceiling" thing or whatever it was called is never explained and never amounts to anything. Tron is an afterthought and his turn at the end comes out of nowhere. Clu decides to JUMP for Sam at the end for some reason. Couldn't he have just flown there with his rocket? Etc,etc,etc,etc

Hedlund was a bore. Wilde looks excited to be in the movie, but doesn't have much to do. Old Bridges tries, but he's stuck with Ninja Turtle dialogue. "RADICAL MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
And young Bridge's cg plastic face is an embarrassment for most of the runtime.

Oh and where the hell was the 3D??
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post #80 of 474
12/18/10 at 7:06pm
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Oh and where the hell was the 3D??
This. All I expected and wanted from this was a pretty light and sound show, so I shelled out the extra cash for 3D. Completely underwhelming.

The Green Lantern trailer looked great in 3D and that shit was post converted.
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post #81 of 474
12/18/10 at 7:45pm
Was there only one Security Guard in the entire ENCOM Building? Sure looked like it.
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post #82 of 474
12/18/10 at 11:51pm
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Tron Legacy is...All kinds of Awesome! I do not care if the critics do not like it. Tron Legacy is definitely worth seeing. Tron Legacy, is definitely worth a trip to a theater with an...Imax screen. No other film in theaters this month will even approach the...greatness of Tron Legacy. I hope there is a sequel as well.
Sometimes. Just sometimes, you have to find the truth that is the truth that this movie sucked. May that sometime be this time.

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Disagree on Sheen. I thought he was far and away the most entertaining part of the film. Yeah, he was over the top and down the other side, but his character had ten times the energy and charisma of any of the others. Frankly, I'd have far preferred him as the main baddie over Phantom Dudeness.
He was boring and so clichéd.

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After having it sink in and reflect after my viewing. Yes, this movie fucking sucked! I was expecting to see it in good ol' 2D - but them movie theatre niggas suckered a playa-playa into paying for the glorious 3D that it is and I saw none of that shit. Visuals were OK - but got bland real quick. Fucking Garret Hedlund, he can't buy charisma if charisma was half-off with an extra 20% discount. Fucking Jeff Bridges had me LOL'ing like crazy whilst he's in the CPU world. So laid back and shit. Olivia Wilde is alright, pretty yes - but that's about it. Joseph Kosinski is a decent director. Daft Punk killed the score. I LOL'd hard when they stole The Dude's spin disc thingy. His reaction was so chilled.
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post #83 of 474
12/19/10 at 12:21am
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Yeah, I'm sure I'll get my ass handed to me for this, but I wonder if people would be as excited about the score if they didn't know it was Daft Punk. There were some neat cues, and its certainly not a bad score by any stretch, but the bulk felt like the Zimmer's Batman stuff and the BRMMMMS in Inception.
Not going to hand you your ass, but having listened to both Nolan Batfilms scores many, many times, and having listened to the TRON score at least three times through in the last week....I think there is really no relation or similarities, other than a few, specific cues. TRON's score isn't a Daft Punk album; it's Daft Punk applying their skills and sounds to create a cohesive score for a film. I do think there a two or three obvious moments where Zimmer's influence (DP consulted with him, yes?) is there, but the rest is unlike anything Zimmer's done, unless you count that he's worked with synthesizers before.
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post #84 of 474
12/19/10 at 12:40am
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At the end of the screening I was at, someone described Michael Sheen as having channelled Gene Wilder playing Willy Wonka.

Spot on correct and yet so wrong ...
Uh, David Bowie, perhaps?
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post #85 of 474
12/19/10 at 12:48am
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Uh, David Bowie, perhaps?
The person they were talking with said David Bowie and they countered with Gene Wilder as Willy Wonka. I have to agree in that as ridiculous as this may sound, David Bowie's always been more subtle than what was on screen - even as Ziggy Stardust.

There's intention .. and then there's what actually happens.

Personally, I would have found it hilarious if Michael Sheen played Castor exactly like Tony Blair. Especially in light of what happened in the film.
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post #86 of 474
12/19/10 at 12:51am
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Was there only one Security Guard in the entire ENCOM Building? Sure looked like it.
Budget cuts, obviously.

Mind you, they got more than what they paid for. Admittedly not very good on the security side of things but the fact he went all the way along to the end of that crane when any kind of misstep would have sent him plunging to his death?

Now that's dedication.
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post #87 of 474
12/19/10 at 12:52am
Without going through all the above posts just yet, but having read at least a dozen reviews (mostly negative) online before seeing it today, I want to say that I didn't hate it. The script was awful, the look of it became tedious after a while despite all the grandeur on display, and the plot never really made much sense to me, dragging to a slow crawl in the middle. But the performances were good (didn't mind Sheen's ersatz Bowie), the digital Bridges was mostly effective, and the architecture of the world was pretty to look at (for a while). But the real winner here was the Daft Punk score which elevated the whole affair, making it seem way more hip and cutting edge than the film actual is. Mostly I felt that it was a missed opportunity, and that they took the Lucas Prequels approach, with way too many callbacks to the original but lacking its adventurous spirit.

Probably didn't help that I saw it immediately after THE FIGHTER which is a very human and down-to-earth story (and features some great classic rock tunes in its soundtrack). Actually, one of the few affecting scenes in TRON LEGACY for me was Sam in the arcade with Journey's "Separate Ways" blaring in the room, changing in audio quality as he descended deeper into the back rooms (like Alice), then "Sweet Dreams" by the Eurythmics started playing in the distance. Great sound design during that sequence.

Would have a hard time recommending this movie to anyone, even as mere spectacle. Some kids in my audience were noticeably restless during the long series of speechifying scenes. So was I.
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post #88 of 474
12/19/10 at 12:54am
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Litmus Configuration, Except...Avatar, was a...terrible film, easilly one of the worst of 2009!
I'm relatively new here and don't post that often, so I may have missed this question and its answer previously but is there any particular reason you're speaking like William Shatner?
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post #89 of 474
12/19/10 at 1:06am
Also, can someone please shoot the "EXTREEEEEME DUDE!" bad-boy acting out cliche?

Then bury it in an unmarked grave.
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post #90 of 474
12/19/10 at 1:09am
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I'm relatively new here and don't post that often, so I may have missed this question and its answer previously but is there any particular reason you're speaking like William Shatner?
Don't mind fleed, it's someone doing a long-term performance art thing.
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post #91 of 474
12/19/10 at 1:24am
Yeah,… that's just his … thing.
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post #92 of 474
12/19/10 at 1:27am
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Don't mind fleed, it's someone doing a long-term performance art thing.
I see, do you mean like this then?

"Dimension is a film for which three minutes would be shot every year for thirty years (1991 to 2022), with its premiere on April 30, 2024, when von Trier will be 68. There is no script ..."
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post #93 of 474
12/19/10 at 1:36am
When all is said and done, do you think we'll get another sequel to this? Based on its performance so far, I doubt it.

Though I would be down for a TV Series. Maybe Summer Glau as Quorra.
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post #94 of 474
12/19/10 at 1:38am
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Quorra did say that Flynn could stop Clu anytime by reintegrating him but that he'd die as a result - which is what I guess happened at the end of the film when he had to do it to protect Sam. Is that what you were referring to?
Yes. I became confused about whether he could do that because he is the creator, or because he's a user. I also wondered why he seemed to go "poof!" like a program when he did it, because they made a point of showing that users bleed rather than "poof!" like programs do.
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post #95 of 474
12/19/10 at 1:38am
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I see, do you mean like this then?

"Dimension is a film for which three minutes would be shot every year for thirty years (1991 to 2022), with its premiere on April 30, 2024, when von Trier will be 68. There is no script ..."
Sorta like that, except more dumb than artful.
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post #96 of 474
12/19/10 at 2:25am
Also left in the "murky" territory - did Tron die? Couldn't tell, and it felt like (along with the Cillian Murphy cameo) a part of the sequel setup.
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post #97 of 474
12/19/10 at 2:56am
Why did the production design have to be so boring and derivative?
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post #98 of 474
12/19/10 at 2:58am
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Originally Posted by FilmNerdJamie View Post
Also left in the "murky" territory - did Tron die? Couldn't tell, and it felt like (along with the Cillian Murphy cameo) a part of the sequel setup.
He didn't "poof", so I guess he's alive.
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post #99 of 474
12/19/10 at 3:29am
I'm not familiar with the production history, but I swear this movie feels like it was cobbled together from five different drafts without any regard to logic or continuity. It makes SPIDERMAN 3 look like CHINATOWN in comparison. Just incredibly lazy storytelling.

It was worth it for the score, the sound design and Jem's amazing ass. Oh, and I did like the TRON-style Walt Disney logo at the beginning.

So, did Cindy Morgan ask for too much money?
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post #100 of 474
12/19/10 at 4:19am
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Originally Posted by HarleyQuinn22 View Post
He didn't "poof", so I guess he's alive.
I thought Tron was restored to his pre-Rinzler self after falling into The Sea of Simulation because all his lights turned blue again.

The really important question is: Are Daft Punk dead or did they sneak out of the club with everyone else before the place got demolished by the Zoning Commission?
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