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post #1 of 8
12/20/10 at 1:00pm
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After seeing the actors who will never be stars thread, I decided to do this thread.

I'm assuming it's because of the previous working relationship between the actors/writers/director, and sometimes when an actor is so identified with a role, they're considered essential, I still don't get why they make a big deal out of that whenever certain people are asked, they always reply with "I won't do it without them!"

They could always get someone else to work on the film, and as the other thread stated, everyone is disposable (in most cases) so this is just something that I've always found strange. If they get offered the job, they should just do it. Then if the movie tanks, they can always play the "Well, we didn't have everyone from the first one on board" card.

I know in certain cases like with The Terminator Franchise, Arnold said for the longest time that he'd never do another one without Cameron, then Cameron basically told him just to do it anyway without him.

Then there's also the Pirates franchise which pretty much will die without Depp, since he's the central figure of the franchise.
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post #2 of 8
12/20/10 at 1:06pm
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If they get offered the job, they should just do it. Then if the movie tanks, they can always play the "Well, we didn't have everyone from the first one on board" card.
If their creative gut/instinct tells them not to do it without certain key personnel, "they should just do it" and play the "I knew it wouldn't be good without _____" card after the fact when it turns out to be shit? You're a wacky cat, Rene.
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post #3 of 8
12/20/10 at 1:10pm
You kind of answered your own question by mentioning Schwarzenegger. He was smart enough to realise that it was Cameron who brought whatever magic it was to Terminator. He then changed his mind and went on to sully the name of his own franchise by working with 2 lesser directors.
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post #4 of 8
12/20/10 at 1:23pm
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Yeah I know. It was just a thought about how I always see actors/directors saying they'll never do a movie without each other, or without the writer. I know having the same people back is usually a good idea, but as you said Evi, I pretty much answered my own question. They don't want to work with someone new, because they think that new person might screw up what they created. I've always just found that strange. It's a 50/50 that it might get screwed up.

If anything, they could also be scared that this new person/people could improve on their film, and steal their glory.
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post #5 of 8
12/20/10 at 1:55pm
On the flip side, I'm more interested in the actors who get signed to two, three, or dear god, in the case of Marvel, nine picture deals. They're locked into a franchise not really knowing for sure who will be steering the ship next. Nothing new there, of course, but in the case of a franchise where an actor and director develop a trusting creative relationship over the course of more than one film, I'd love to be the fly on the wall when that actor has to report to the set with someone who has radically different ideas for the character and story that has been developed in the previous films. Not saying that is always going to be a negative, nothing wrong with a fresh take on things.

I'd suppose you'd have to look past just actor/director relationships and look at how much the actor trusts the producers and studio execs shepherding the franchise. Depp was talked into doing Pirates 4 by Dick Cook before he left Disney, though I don't think he was actually contracted for further installments. What if Nolan decided not to do a third Batman film... Bale reports to the set of Tony Scott's Dark Knight Rises.
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post #6 of 8
12/20/10 at 3:00pm
This thread just begs for a "We are done professionally!" grudge counterpart.
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post #7 of 8
12/20/10 at 5:16pm
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If their creative gut/instinct tells them not to do it without certain key personnel, "they should just do it" and play the "I knew it wouldn't be good without _____" card after the fact when it turns out to be shit? You're a wacky cat, Rene.
And yet Rene would still like the final product.
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post #8 of 8
12/22/10 at 4:27am
I'm reminded of Vin Diesel not wanting to do either another Fast & Furious or XXX without Rob Cohen being involved. Box-office receipts not quite being there for his other work ended up changing his mind.

Chris Tucker apparently is only interested in doing sequels to movies that Brett Ratner directed. He's apparently been saying no to more Friday movies for over a decade but given some of the scripts they've put out there, I can't say I blame him.
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