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AMC Backstory "Halloween" Today!

post #1 of 34
Thread Starter 
Don't forget fiends, today marks the first full day of all horror films on the American Movie Classics network.

Today, we get non-stop Halloween sequels (II through V) and the long-awaited Backstory special. Remember, there's never-before-seen "on the set" footage in this hour-long documentary, I for one can't wait! wink
post #2 of 34
I work from four 'til midnight. I hope they re run it.
post #3 of 34
I just saw the Backstory, its awesome.
Re plays again tonight at 8 i believe
post #4 of 34
Just got finished with it. Damn fine stuff, very well made. Nothing most 'Halloween' fans haven't heard before, but the "on the set" stuff is priceless. This better be on AB's 25th Anniversary release.
post #5 of 34
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Johnny Butane:
This better be on AB's 25th Anniversary release.
Have you heard any more about this, Johnny? I saw on the AB site that they mentioned commentaries, but said it's subject to change. I'm still dying to hear the laserdisc one, but alas, as far as I know, it's still owned by Criterion.
post #6 of 34
yeah MonsterFest has been kicking ass today. i've been watching horror movies pretty much since 4AM and will continue to do so for most of this evening. and the Halloween Backstory was a treat.
Donald Pleasance is my hero.

i'm also digging the Short Screamers. some of em are pretty neat.
post #7 of 34
The backstory kicked some major boo-tay! There's to much stuff on tonight that I'm having trouble deciding what to watch. I've never been this excited since..since..LAST HALLOWEEN. A heads up to all who haven't seen Dead Alive, it's on IFC tonight as reported by the girlcreature as well. OK must go watch Halloween two, peace out my friends, gees I feel so confused it's great.
post #8 of 34
magic.

post #9 of 34
I have to admit, if somebody had told me ten years ago that "Halloween 5" would one day be on American Movie CLASSICS, I would've laughed in their face.
post #10 of 34
Hey all, I'm sorry but I have to admit these short screamers are really horrible, why don't I ever get word of anything like this, I would have given it a shot, guess I'm a nobody. frown
post #11 of 34
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Smilin' Jack Ruby:
I have to admit, if somebody had told me ten years ago that "Halloween 5" would one day be on American Movie CLASSICS, I would've laughed in their face.
This is so true. I'm watching it now, and just laughing at the fact at this is on the Movie Classic channel.
post #12 of 34
I'm convinced it was NOT "sugar" that Carpenter used to get that extra creative rush as he has claimed.

As a professional metal musician Ive seen that "skeletal" look more than a few times amongst my compadres that play blindingly fast...
post #13 of 34
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I have to admit, if somebody had told me ten years ago that "Halloween 5" would one day be on American Movie CLASSICS, I would've laughed in their face.
Why not...this is the same channel that runs Speed...
post #14 of 34
Wait a second....hold the press. Anchor Bay is releasing Halloween as a 25th anniversary edition? Honestly, I cant say this sounds UN-familiar, but I cant say I remember hearing about it either. This is waaaaayyy cool.

Anyone know the details of the disc(s) ?
post #15 of 34
Great great stuff AMC kicks ass not only for this Backstory but the one on Predator and Robocop are pretty cool too. That and AMC always shows the brilliant documentary on Bruce Lee:A Warriors Journey with Game of Death edited the way Bruce wanted.
post #16 of 34
The fact that Halloween 5 is now playing on AMC as an "American classic" shows how much of a joke this once-great station is now.

AMC used to live up to its billing by showing true classics uncut and letterboxed and with no commercials.

Now you'd have to look long and hard for a real "classic" to air on AMC (unless Tom Hanks' Dragnet is your idea of a "classic"), everything (with rare exception) is shown pan-and-scan, films are edited for content and commercials run rampant (none more obnoxious than AMC's own in-house promos which features "movie fans" talking as though every film buff is a vapid devotee of mainstream cinema).

As for the Halloween Backstory, it was ok but not especially enlightening. Much of the info is all-too familiar to fans of the film and some of the quotes were more than a little off-base.

For example - Fango's Tony Timpone is a great guy but unless they took his quote out of context somehow, I can't believe he'd say that the use of a subjective point of view "hadn't been seen" before Halloween with not crediting Black Christmas.

Not a big deal but just one of those details that makes a documentary like this feel less-than-credible.
post #17 of 34
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dolarhyde:
For example - Fango's Tony Timpone is a great guy but unless they took his quote out of context somehow, I can't believe he'd say that the use of a subjective point of view "hadn't been seen" before Halloween with not crediting Black Christmas.
Actually if memory serves he said something to the effect that it hadn't been used very often. Not to the extent it was used after Halloween.
post #18 of 34
That's very possible, capteucalyptus. It probably was phrased that way. I know there was another quote in the special (not from Timpone) that stuck out for me as being "off" but I can't recall it now.
post #19 of 34
If we're being finicky, Black Christmas wasn't the first genre pic to do those subjective POV shots.

But they should've just got rid of Timpone and had more Carpenter (or even Cyphers- I'd love to have heard more about his experiences as a JC regular).
post #20 of 34
Quote:
dolarhyde:
The fact that Halloween 5 is now playing on AMC as an "American classic" shows how much of a joke this once-great station is now.

AMC used to live up to its billing by showing true classics uncut and letterboxed and with no commercials.
Gotta agree with you here. MonsterFest 2000 was the best one yet. There was maybe 1 commercial break in the movies (and only then if the movies ran long). My VCR was working overtime that year. That year I could pretty much count on setting my VCR to record for the running time of the movie and really fill the tape out. This year, I have to get commercials and all. Pretty dissappointing.

This year is much better than 2001, though. AMC ran WAY too many godzilla movies. I just don't enjoy them like I did when I was a kid.
post #21 of 34
I want to know what the deal is with Predator even rearing its ugly head. He's a monster sure but there are so many more. They could have showed Phibes 2 or 3 times instead of just once at 1 AM!!!!
post #22 of 34
Fuck AMC, TCM is where it's at. That's Turner Classic Movies.
post #23 of 34
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RathBandu: Gone Rogue:
Fuck AMC, TCM is where it's at. That's Turner Classic Movies.
I agree. As much as I love AMC, TCM has really been kicking MUCH ass with its programming sked lately. Same as Sundance.
post #24 of 34
Thread Starter 
Someone above mentioned the "cut to hell" version of Halloween II. Yes, it may be cut to hell, but it's also the semi-obscure TV cut, which USA & Sci-Fi never show, the one with certain scenes re-arranged, additional footage and the alternate ending. I'm personally chalking this up to taking the good with the bad.

Coincidentally, Sci-Fi channel ran the TV cut of Night of the Creeps this morning (Sunday), and again, this cut had multiple added scenes and a different ending.

Right now, a pan & scan, heavily edited cut of Halloween is playing on FX. Not the TV version.

Regarding "Backstory": since the Akkads are seemingly taking advice on which directions to go in with a Halloween 9, how about bringing back Charlie Cyphers as Sherrif Brackett? There aren't any other ties to the earlier films left alive (or useful) and we've now, with Resurrection seen what a Myers movie turns into with no Loomis or Laurie Strode to keep things respectable. They brought him back in the comic and it worked pretty well.

If they have to make another Halloween sequel, why not?
post #25 of 34
yep.. just what I was thinking Someone mentioned having the nurse from part 2 making a comeback too, that wouldn't be bad either. Anywho... I just wanted to repeat something that was all too good to not repeat.

"They got Trekkie's...We got Weenies."

Yes..weenies...
post #26 of 34
Quote:
dolarhyde:
The fact that Halloween 5 is now playing on AMC as an "American classic" shows how much of a joke this once-great station is now.

AMC used to live up to its billing by showing true classics uncut and letterboxed and with no commercials.

Now you'd have to look long and hard for a real "classic" to air on AMC (unless Tom Hanks' Dragnet is your idea of a "classic"), everything (with rare exception) is shown pan-and-scan, films are edited for content and commercials run rampant (none more obnoxious than AMC's own in-house promos which features "movie fans" talking as though every film buff is a vapid devotee of mainstream cinema).
First off, they've got a Halloween theme going for Halloween. It's not like they're gonna play Halloween 5 any other time of the year.

As for letterbox, sometimes they'll show fullscreen in primetime, then show the movie later that night in letterbox. Maybe not with Halloween 5, but you know what I mean.

Yeah, there are more commercials lately. And they're referring to the channel as the "new" AMC. Maybe they changed ownership or management. Maybe they weren't making enough cash and need the ads to stay afloat.

The latest movies they've added to their library have been kind of hodgepodge, too. The Predator movies, Dragnet and some others could hardly be called classics. Their inclusion, and others from the 80s, reflects the shift in the target audience, however. As time goes by, the era of classic movies for their audience changes, too. They're going for a younger demo that thinks of 80s movies as old, and has fond childhood memories of them.

The problem is that more recent movies tend to have more violence, sex, and language. AMC doesn't need to cut Casablanca for a basic cable audience, but Halloween 2 can't go out as is.

At least the "movie fan" commercials aren't as annoying as the "drama" commercials over on TNT. Those make me want to yell at the screen.
post #27 of 34
can anyone please tell me when this is playing again?

ive missed it and i will be so pissed if i cant see this documentary...
post #28 of 34
It is supposed to be on tonight at 10:00 EST. It was great and well worth watching.
post #29 of 34
Something really strikes me as funny, while playing the monsterfest win a plasma tv contest Saturday night, they were airing Halloween Two. I was givin a question that stated "Will this be Michaels first victim?" It was that of the girl who was/is talking on the phone with her friend, she hears her neighbor scream and she comes outside. Now correct me if I am wrong, but what I thought was going to happen and I was pretty sure it did was she goes back inside the house and a few seconds later discovers her front door is open and Michael jumps from the floor and kills her. Well the folks over at AMC thought it would be neat to go to a commercial and proclaim I was wrong about her being Michaels first victim. It really pissed me off and I wrote a letter to them, sorry to sound childish but damn. Yes I am to cheap to buy a plasma tv, so whats your point, anyone else notice this or did this while playing the game online?
post #30 of 34
I know how you feel, AMC are being real pissy with some of the questions. But still, the prizes are good.

And some of their commentary has made me chuckle from time to time. It's like real-time/online Mystery Science Theatre.
post #31 of 34
I wonder how long it will be until we see Michael Myers in Space and/or the Ghetto. There's an idea for H9. Myers wants revenge on Busta Rymes so he tracks him down to the ghetto. I can see it now, there will even be a new hit rap song based on the original Halloween theme.
post #32 of 34
Most of the AMC "Short Screamers" are pretty poor IMO, but I just now saw a really good one- the woman in the room with the painting. Hope these things get repeated, I want to try and tape it.
post #33 of 34
They're gonna show them all Halloween night I think with Mr. Carpenter hosting.
post #34 of 34
Midnight on Halloween.
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