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post #1 of 9
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Apologize if someone's already made a thread...

Anyone else caught this yet? I just got back from it and I was floored. I haven't seen either of Mitchell's other two films (I know, I know, I need to get on Hedwig) but wow, he is clearly a voice to be reckoned with. This is a wonderfully acted movie, powerful, emotional, there were times I was legitimately choked up. I know Kidman and Eckhart could act, though I wasn't sure they could act this well. Kidman in particular is great as Becca, the passive-aggressive wife who keeps her feelings extremely close to the chest. She's great, but Eckhart is better. There's a blowup about halfway through where he's half screaming half crying "You're trying to erase him!" and he is utterly brilliant.

When the focus is on the grieving couple, it excels, the supporting cast is pretty good. The inclusion of Jason (who's relationship to the cast I won't reveal) felt a little gimmicky and first year film student, but the actor handles himself well. Peculiar face...Sandra Oh plays herself, I'm pretty sure. And Dianne Wiest does so much with so little.

Great movie. I was touched, and I have never lost a child, so I can only imagine this is a sucker punch for anyone who has ever lost a kid before. It feels...real, I guess. Positively genuine. Wonderful use of music, barely a wasted frame, definitely, definitely check this out when it comes your way.
post #2 of 9
I just saw it today too and was equally impressed. I was expecting something a little bit soggier and Oscar baity, but it was a very genuine, honest film with, as you said, three dynamite performances. Right now it stands a very good chance at making my top 10.

One of my favourite elements of the film was that it refused to play good guy/bad guy with the couple, making one reasonable and the other a miserable harpy. Both were undergoing a very ugly situation in differing ways and the film shows how each person's emotional process could affect the other's, both positively and very negatively. Also loved the ending, which was the right ending, if not the one we necessarily want.

So nice to see Eckhart at the top of his game again. Really wish this guy got great material like this on a regular basis.
post #3 of 9
This film despite its serious theme of a lost child is not strictly a drama like In the Bedroom or Ordinary People. There is some humor in the film when the couple join a grieving group. I don’t think Rabbit Hole resembles either of those two films.

The film is definitely worth seeing for the performances. Kidman, Eckhart and a young actor named Miles Teller are all fine in the film.
post #4 of 9
<this will be more than a little spoilery, so I'm going to inviso-text it...but can we call this the post-release thread so we can discuss without worrying about it?>

I'm going to have to disagree that Jason's role is first-year-film-school. It might seem that way on paper, but his inclusion and subsequent interactions with the two leads lent a really visceral kick to the story for me. Inviso-text follows: Even people without kids can conjure up how powerful the grief that Becca and Howie are feeling. But Becca's seeking him out after catching a glimpse of him is what drives her own way forward. And when he pops into the house unexpectedly, Howie's reaction is gut-wrenchingly real. And coupled with his attempt to make sure that Becca has told Jason that they don't blame him was powerful stuff
post #5 of 9
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You probably say it best, Jeff with the 'it might seem that way on paper'. I love the interactions, it helps give catharsis (and Eckhart's reaction to him stumbling into the house is pure gold) but in the first scene where we're not sure why Becca is following him and following him and then bang! it's the person driving the car, was perhaps the only moment that felt slightly 'this is someone being written' to me.

His 'I may have been driving 31, maybe 32' killed me. It's like, I want to hate this kid, but dammit, he's so nice and it really was an accident.
post #6 of 9
Does Nicole Kidman actually look like a living person in this? Or is she still more suited for Madame Tussauds.
post #7 of 9
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Does Nicole Kidman actually look like a living person in this? Or is she still more suited for Madame Tussauds.
Surprisingly lifelike. Entertainment Weekly actually had a story on the movie where they addressed this directly, I think. "Looking more natural than she has in years" or something along those lines. For a long time now, I've been avoiding Kidman because of her propensity to play the same kinds of roles. But you know, for a role where she *yet again* plays a woman who internalizes her emotion to the point where she seems cold, she really knocks it out of the park.

And yeah, Doc. I think if you tell someone their relationship in conversation, or someplace like a pitch meeting, it sounds really "written". But in the film it felt pretty organic...like what might actually happen if someone like Kidman's character looked up while driving and saw Jason. Where she was at emotionally spurred her semi-stalking of him. I'm sure some people will see who he actually is a mile away, but for those first few minutes I thought he reminded her of her son, and she was trying to get a glimpse of her son had he survived.

That little bit where Jason talked about how he'd been thinking about it a lot, and that he wanted to tell her that he might have been driving a little fast just destroyed me.
post #8 of 9

Watched it this morning. For me, this was a film wherein the parts are greater than the sum. It just didn't quite cohere for me the way I wanted it to. Performances all around were excellent; it all felt real, sometimes painfully so. Dialogue, expressions and character choices - excepting one, which I'll get to below - all felt organic and genuine. I liked how we saw the dysfunction in Becca's family without it being expositioned to death, and I also liked how the film effortlessly showed that Becca's grief was exacerbating and exposing the cracks already there, not creating them.

 

Eckhart's performance, for the most part, was one of those quiet, solid ones Christian Bale referenced in his Golden Globes acceptance speech. I agree that the film refused to pigeonhole either spouse as the bad guy, but it was really tough for me to continually muster empathy for Becca while having no trouble doing so for Howie. He did so much with facial expressions and body language in the film; you could see the effort he made to support his wife while yearning for more. Kidman's performance was excellent. She inhabited Becca, and despite being an actress who's also a movie star, it was easy to buy her as the grieving mother. I will say, however, that the opening shots were very distracting, as the work done on her face was screamingly obvious, and as someone who's been watching her in films for 20 years, it's just sad and annoying.

 

I found the Jason storyline straining and sometimes breaking credulity, especially with Becca having an actual relationship (talking, spending time with) with him. I would've bought it more easily if the film had 1) kept it more of a stalking relationship and 2) he was simply a handy object for her grief and denial, spotted by chance at the traffic light. I don't know if it's as bad as "first year film student," but it definitely felt forced and too on-the-nose.

 

The film's brevity and lack of platitudes works very much for it, though I almost wished it was a little longer with a corrected plot (the Jason thing). And for a film about grief, it also managed to not be ridiculously weepy or oppressively somber. The few laughs or lighter moments were great.

 

I also loved the cinematography. The credits say it was adapted from a play, but Mitchell & Co. did a wonderful job opening the visuals and giving a good sense of that world. The lighting for the night scenes in Becca and Howie's house was magic, and I loved how it helped contrast the warmth and comfort of the home with the chill, stark distance between the husband and wife.

post #9 of 9

Mmm, agreed. Great post.

 

I think this was the first time I ever warmed up to Eckhart, even though he totally had the Action Movie Physique. I guess he did this somewhere during "The Dark Knight" and "Battle: Los Angeles," and it's the sort of thing you can't ignore, when good looking male actors who do lots of action movies suddenly play Average Joes, and you have to be like, wait, when does he have the time to hit the gym so often? See: Ryan Reynolds in "Amityville Horror," Will Smith in "Seven Pounds," etc.

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