THE ONLY TWO 'BEST OF 2010' LISTS YOU NEED... TARANTINO'S AND CHUD'S

I think these are the new movies he's seen in 2010.

Wow. No wildly overrated nerdbait (and good buddy's film) SCOTT PILGRIM!?! Outrage! Plus, he apparently didn't get around to seeing the best films of the year, BLACK SWAN, WINTER'S BONE and SPLICE.

I'm down with the JACKASS 3D love though.

Seabiscuits dead, you can stop the smackdown already.

You know, not to insult those who like JACKASS... but I feel like praising a film that is about fecal matter as the 20th best film of the year is completely absurd. Shame on those who put it on their year end lists. This Just MHO, obviously, but it's an embarrassment

I'm just harboring a guess, but you didn't see it, right Kate?

No. And I don't need to. It's trash. Amusing perhaps, but garbage. I am not even going to qualify that with an IMHO

Then IMHO you can shut the fuck up. Talk about the movies you have seen. Passing judgment on things you haven't seen is the only thing that's embarrassing here. You do a good enough job misunderstanding and passing judgment on the movies you HAVE seen. We don't need you bringing your limited outlook on things you haven't.

And you like plenty of "trash," so before you get all self righteous up in this, take some perspective on yourself.

Renn, enjoyed the ranking of the CHUD lists there at the end. Interesting to see how that ultimately stacked up (also feel like the Oscars should have a similar weighted vote system). Was funny to see our guilty pleasures still lurking at the bottom with one point a piece.

Because your opinion is so humble when you do qualify it.

A documentary on defacation is not worthy of critical analysis. That's just MHO. Feel free to disect the JACK ASS films all you want. Renn, it's just MHO that the site should feel embarrassed to stick JACKASS 3D on a "best films of the year" list when there were other films that were not JACKASS. You work for CHUD though, if you'd like it to be known as a place that champions JACK ASS, feel free to do so proudly

I guess I'm just a snob, right? That's OK, to each their own

I'll continue to laugh at intelligent jokes and watch films with story and character. Knoxville's pal's struggles with addiction and over turned portapotties (in OMG X-TREME 3D!) I will leave to the rest of you

Strange; you spend so much time defalcating from the mouth (finger-tips?) that I figured this would be right up your alley.

I have not personally insulted anyone in this thread, merely questioned their taste

Kate, you're ludicrous.

I really am shocked that PILGRIM didn't make his list, more so than any of the other films I mentioned. I mean I've given it shit but it would make my top 20, top 15 maybe. And Quentin and Wright are close friends. Weird.

Shame on you Kate, I think you have and I think you're an embarrassment.

But that's just MHO.

It is odd. Maybe Wright stole his girlfriend or something.

I was half kidding when I said that I think these are the new films he's seen this year. But even if this is legitimate and not the result of a list plagued with residue from Tarantino's latest bong hit, I will give the guy credit: he likes what he likes and doesn't seem terribly interested in championing his friends. As crazy as his selections might seem, I believe him. And he loves film, so that has to say something about these movies. I just don't know what it is.

Look. I'm loyal to CHUD. I don't read Devin's new site, so I don't know if JACKASS made his list or not but if it did? Then my remarks go doubly for him. I love film, and it's been my defining interest since I was 10 years old (aprox). JACKASS is antithetical to everything that I love in film. It's OW MY BALLS the movie, and it saddens me to see it treated as anything other than crass, LCD nonsense. I certainly can't respect the opinion of a critic who'd place it in his TOP 15 films of the year. That's OK. I love the MOVIE NEWS I get from CHUD, and hopefully someday a new critic whose taste I can respect will come along to replace Devin

And.. I'm just one person. Stop getting bent out of shape if I don't like what you like. Or put me on ignore. I have an opinion on JACKASS and those who praise it, and I won't disguise that

It's amazing to me that with a list that contains both Robin Hood and Get Him To The Greek, anyone - including Kate - would choose to attack Jackass 3D.

I think Tarantino has terrible taste, for the most part. I am not the biggest fan of his films. My JACKASS hatred is born mostly out of Renn's list, and I'm merely irked that once again it's getting praised this time by someone whose opinions are widely listened to in the film community

You're totally trolling, then. I think that's a banable offense.

Anna Kendricks is Wright's girlfriend, and I think she has nice feet, so I think you've nailed the conspiracy.

No.. I'm not. This article was about TARANTINO and CHUD lists. It gave a summary of both lists. Sorry you're upset I don't like one of the CHUD lists, but agreement is not mandatory around here

Yeah, but you're saying people have bad taste over a film you haven't seen, ergo trolling.

Also, it's not a documentary about defecation.

It'd be one thing if you'd seen the movie, but since you hadn't it makes it seem like you're intentionally calling out Renn, especially after you talk about his "lacking quality as a reviewer." That's trolling. If you'd seen the movie and could offer you're (admittedly limited) perspective, that'd be one thing. But calling people out and calling their taste "trash" and "shameful" when you haven't seen what they're talking about? TROLL!

But I think I'll but you on ignore list, before anyone accuses ME of trolling. I only take people seriously when they actually know what they're talking about. For the record, I haven't seen Jackass 3D either. I find it hypocritical when someone questions another persons taste when they haven't even seen what they're discussing.

Tarantino loves stunts, Jackass is no surprise at the bottom. Robin Hood... THAT was intersting.

Keep this thing on point, folks. Kate, tone it down a little and all will be fine.

Hey Kate, it's really bad form to go on and on about a movie you haven't seen, especially when you're getting obstinate with other people (including site staff). Go ahead and lock that down, please.

Kate's actually been damn good as of late. Ain't her fault people don't like what she has to say.

I get the feeling with the absence of Pilgrim, Somewhere and Unstoppable that Tarantino recused himself from some films.

I'm beginning to hate PILGRIM but even I'm shocked at its exclusion against the inclusion of the execrable KNIGHT AND DAY and the inexcusably boring ROBIN HOOD.

Why hasn't anyone brought up the abscence of Inception from the list? I think THAT was surprising as it appears to have made just about everyone else's. While I haven't seen Knight and Day, I'd be surprised that it was objectively better than Nolan's film. And Scott Pilgrim really did surprise the fuck outta me for not making the cut.

Ooop! I think a nail has been struck on the head!

Considering Tarantino used to be known for his unique tastes and passion for cult and foreign cinema, it's kind of weird how unadventurous his recent favourites lists have been.

I thought of that, but that didn't stop him from liking Hot Fuzz or Marie Antoinette, right? I seem to remember those on his lasts prior. This might be a new development as well...

I suspect it's more likley he didn't inlude a film by his friend because he can't view it objectivley.

And Kate i'm normally on your side but you really can't dismiss a film if you haven't seen it. You CAN say you don't want to see it or it's not your cup of tea but you can't dismiss it outright.

Devil's advocate: unless she saw and disliked one of the first two films and figured the third one was more of the same.

KNIGHT AND DAY is simply terrible. I can't imagine an actual, sane person preferring it over INCEPTION.

This is Tarantino. You can't read too much into his lists, either what's included or excluded. Case in point? ANYTHING ELSE is on his Best of the 00s list.

ANYTHING ELSE.

Parker: speaking of beating dead horses... I thought you'd know better.

As to the list, Tarrantino doesn't live in a bubble, he's got to know what putting Tangled at #5 does. As weird as his lists have (mostly) always been, there's gotta be some humor in his picks.

And for the record, I don't think we wouldn't have torn Kate a new one if her unseen hate had gone towards Get Him to the Greek or Tangled instead of something widely loved round these parts.

I'm more appalled at Chud's lack of Toy Story 3. Especially with MacGruber on there. Worse than anything on Tarantino's list.

I have to agree. I thought MACGRUBER was a huge misfire.

I am a bigger fan of MACGRUBER than TOY STORY 3, especially in terms of expectations vs. what I got.

As with PILGRIM, I know I'm in the minority here re: MACGRUBER. I thought some of it worked, but I definitely wouldn't include it on a "best of" list for the year.

I really want to drop this, but just to clarify; If it was you and if it was any other movie, I'd treat you the same way. I don't like it when people act snotty about something they haven't seen. It's fine if you say "I don't want to see this," and leave it at that. But to question someone's taste when you have no knowledge of the subject you're discussing? That's blatant hypocricisy, and I don't care who or where it comes from.

Also, I don''t "love" Jackass 3. I didn't even see it. It could be a gigantic pile of dogshit for all I know.

I treat Kate like I treat everyone else around here. I don't think she's special or unique. I think you can all agree that if I disagree with you, I'm gonna tell you. That's that, and that's the last I'll say on the matter in this thread.

EDIT: So that my post is somewhat on topic: I really wish Tarantino would write a little bit about all of these, because I think they'd go along way. I'm stunned whenever he talks about a movie he loves; he legitimately brings the business. I can't fathom why anyone would love Anyone Else as one of the best of the past decade, but like I said above, I believe him. I just wish he'd let us peak into his head a little so that we get a little bit of the "why?"

Dan Benenson and I saw Amer in Philly. Your description is pretty much exactly what it is, but for such a great idea on paper it left me flat. I can see Tarantino digging the hell out of it, and I've been curious to give it another look with narrative expectations in check. Here's a funner trailer.

I thought MacGruber was the funniest film I saw all year. Had I seen THE WAY BACK before this weekend, my list would be different, but such is life. Obviously Tarantino and many others love Toy Story 3, but what keeps the film from being great for me is that the ending is a franchise reboot. The end of the second film is about the acceptance of the passage of time. The third film sort of ruins that theme and/or mixes Christianity with mysticism (reincarnation now). I don't think the ending of the film pays off the start of the film. I also prefer Toy Story 2's more breathless/orgasmic building of set up pay-offs, than here where the characters are saved by a God machine (literally). It's effectively dark, but also in a way that ties with my misgivings about the whole adventure (it's easy to involve an audience when you put a gun to the head of a loved one). That said, I mean, the Pixar guys know what they're doing and so much of everything in the film is top tier re:writing/directing/framing, but I have enough issues with the film to keep it from my list - even if I like it a lot.

The more you talk about how great MACGRUBER is the more I think you may have suffered some sort of blow to the head.

Kidding folks, kidding.

*shrug* Fair enough. Just an observation/hypothesis.
That would ruin the fun of wondering whether or not he's just taking the piss with these lists.