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post #1 of 39
1/14/11 at 3:41pm
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by Elisabeth Rappe: link

Ridley Scott's new Alien movie has a title, and a leading lady.
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post #2 of 39
1/14/11 at 3:48pm

Great news.

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post #3 of 39
1/14/11 at 3:48pm

Fan-FUCKING-tastic!!! 

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post #4 of 39
1/14/11 at 3:56pm

Flat out terrific news. Yay, originality! Can't wait to see Scott's fresh vision.

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post #5 of 39
1/14/11 at 3:58pm

My interest in this just jumped about 300%. This has to be the first big indication that the performances of Inception and Avatar may have marked a turning point in hollywood's attitude towards original properties.

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post #6 of 39
1/14/11 at 4:03pm

Huzzah! Funny, Scott did the opposite thing with Nottingham, took an original idea and turned it into Generic McGenericsville. Maybe this is his way of balancing the scales.

 

Excellent, excellent news.

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post #7 of 39
1/14/11 at 4:03pm

That, and the Tron 2 receipts being what they were...

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post #8 of 39
1/14/11 at 4:08pm

While I liked the idea of Scott returning to sci-fi, a prequel to Alien didn't really sit well with me.  This was a good move, and the puffery in that article has me excited about this project for the first time.

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post #9 of 39
1/14/11 at 4:14pm

The best thing is how genuinely invigorated by the project he seems.

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post #10 of 39
1/14/11 at 4:16pm

Huzzah!  This is such a happy accident.  And I agree, hopefully this marks a return to a focus on original properties.  Especially with a big name director like Scott leading the charge.  *fingers crossed*

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post #11 of 39
1/14/11 at 4:22pm

Thank God.

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post #12 of 39
1/14/11 at 4:22pm
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post

The best thing is how genuinely invigorated by the project he seems.



Not least because I got the impression Scott was kind of pushed into making the Alien Prequel - I seem to remember him originally having some involvement as producer or whatever but wanting someone else to direct. And he always seemed more interested in the space jockey anyway. There should be some interesting behind the scenes stories about this thing before it's done.

 

I wonder if Giger is still involved?

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post #13 of 39
1/14/11 at 4:27pm

Is there a one level higher than "cautiously" optimistic?  Because that's where I am with this.  Scott returning (and Nomi!) is encouraging, but this franchise has kind have been scorch-earthed into oblivion by this point.  I'd love to be proven wrong. 

 

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post #14 of 39
1/14/11 at 4:46pm

Yeah, I'm sold on this. I was already sold, but the fact that it seems that they're not just prequelizing this is that they want to do it right.

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post #15 of 39
1/14/11 at 4:47pm
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Is there a one level higher than "cautiously" optimistic?  Because that's where I am with this.  Scott returning (and Nomi!) is encouraging, but this franchise has kind have been scorch-earthed into oblivion by this point.  I'd love to be proven wrong. 

 



From everything I've gathered, this isn't even part of the Alien franchise anymore but a whole new film that simply came out of him working on the prequel.

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post #16 of 39
1/14/11 at 6:06pm

"“While Alien was indeed the jumping off point for this project, out of the creative process evolved a new, grand mythology and universe in which this original story takes place. The keen fan will recognize strands of Alien’s DNA, so to speak, but the ideas tackled in this film are unique, large and provocative. I couldn’t be more pleased to have found the singular tale I’d been searching for, and finally return to this genre that’s so close to my heart.”

 

Wait, I'm confused, does this have anything to do with alien now?  That quote is kind of cryptic.  If it doesn't, why is HR Giger involved?  Plus, I'd have to know more about the story before getting excited.

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post #17 of 39
1/14/11 at 7:46pm

And the potential 2012 has for being a reference point for genre films just took a huge leap forward, when it's already looking pretty fantastic.

 

Damn. This is great news.

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post #18 of 39
1/14/11 at 7:48pm

I have no clue what this is now. Originally it was supposed to be an Alien prequel. Now it's a semi-inspired by, reimagined spinoff/reboot and also none of those things?

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post #19 of 39
1/14/11 at 8:10pm

People seem to think this great news, but what are we celebrating?  I don't even know what kind of film this is going to be...alien sequel?  spinoff?  nothing to do with alien?  The quotes in the article aren't helping.  Can anyone shed light on this?

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post #20 of 39
1/14/11 at 8:11pm
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Originally Posted by ShiftyEyes View Post

I have no clue what this is now. Originally it was supposed to be an Alien prequel. Now it's a semi-inspired by, reimagined spinoff/reboot and also none of those things?


Yeah, I'm kind of in the same boat as you as some others. Just what the hell is this movie going to be now? I mean is it gonna be a "Soldier" situation where the movie was kind of sort of but not really inspired by and kind of sort of but not really took place in the same universe as Blade Runner? If so, then why bother calling it an "Alien" movie? I'm still waiting to hear what the movie is ACTUALLY going to be about until I get excited about it.

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post #21 of 39
1/14/11 at 8:55pm
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Originally Posted by Ambler View Post

People seem to think this great news, but what are we celebrating?

 

Ridley Scott's return to science-fiction?  His first SF film in 30 years?  That's what I'm celebrating, anyway...
 

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post #22 of 39
1/14/11 at 9:02pm

Please God, no Jolie. Pretty please.

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post #23 of 39
1/14/11 at 9:50pm


 

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Originally Posted by Ambler View Post

People seem to think this great news, but what are we celebrating?

 

Ridley Scott's return to science-fiction?  His first SF film in 30 years?  That's what I'm celebrating, anyway...
 


I'm with you there, but Scott is long past his prime.  I'm sure it will at least LOOK interesting...but other than that?

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post #24 of 39
1/14/11 at 10:11pm

The quote sure makes it sound like it's not an ALIEN movie anymore. It could indeed be set in the same universe, but you probably wouldn't notice--other than being a "dark", working-class SF universe (which dozens of other movies have cribbed from since anyway). I've always been a bit curious about the ALIEN universe, which is implicitly much larger and more complex than what we see in the films--as I'm hardly the first to point out, there's plenty to suggest that humanity has made contact with other alien life, for a start. It's part of a continuum of SF movies you used to see in the 50s and 60s, where the plot revolves around a visit to a single planet or whatever, but they suggest that there's a whole universe out there that's probably just as rich as Star Wars or Star Trek.

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post #25 of 39
1/15/11 at 12:35am

Sweet. Alien's molested corpse gets spared one last round of thrusting. Scott gets back on science fiction. Good news all around. 

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post #26 of 39
1/15/11 at 3:28am

Now I am really interested. I want humans facing a different species, life cycle, threat, scenario etc. I should depart from the tons of cheap imitations that followed the original Alien.

The last time some suit asked Lindelof to take over a simple concept was like a plane crashes on an island, like Survivor. He came up with Lost instead. 

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post #27 of 39
1/15/11 at 4:26am

Hmmmm I smell pretentious cover for the fact that its a straight remake of Alien.....

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post #28 of 39
1/15/11 at 5:38am

 

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Originally Posted by E.T.C. View Post

Yeah, I'm kind of in the same boat as you as some others. Just what the hell is this movie going to be now? I mean is it gonna be a "Soldier" situation where the movie was kind of sort of but not really inspired by and kind of sort of but not really took place in the same universe as Blade Runner? If so, then why bother calling it an "Alien" movie? I'm still waiting to hear what the movie is ACTUALLY going to be about until I get excited about it.


Well, they're *not* calling it an Alien movie. That was in fact what this piece of news is all about. It doesn't sound like it is going to connect to that series in anything more than a 'spiritual successor' kind of sense. And even though Scott's hit and miss these days to say the least, the guy's still one of the pioneers of modern sci-fi and the idea of him revisiting the genre 30 years on is automatically an exciting prospect for me.

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post #29 of 39
1/15/11 at 6:39am

I hope this bold new sci fi story has a little more going for it than just people in a spaceship facing some kind of (non xenomorphic) crisis. Consider me cautiously optimistic.

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post #30 of 39
1/15/11 at 7:11am

Between Ms Rapace and these vague plot details, I am beginning to get slightly excited for this project. Scott was my first favorite director, but he's not my current one as he's kind of been letting me down lately. I'd much prefer to love this than loath it though, and I hope he has something special in store for us. He's still dealing with FOX, so even if he's dealing with more interesting ideas that simply a demystification of the space jocky mythos, there is still the risk that the studio will pull the rug out from under him, but allowing him to cast Rapace in the lead is something I'm willing to take as  a hopeful sign

 

 

PS No Angelina Jolie, for christ sakes

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post #31 of 39
1/15/11 at 7:11am
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I hope this bold new sci fi story has a little more going for it than just people in a spaceship facing some kind of (non xenomorphic) crisis. Consider me cautiously optimistic.



While this would be neat - something new or unexpected in the SF realm - I'm also OK with Scott putting some tweaks and twists on a formula. I've no problems with formula, provided it's done intelligently and does something more than ploddingly follow expected plot points.

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post #32 of 39
1/15/11 at 9:20am

Do people really think that Fox isn't going to absolutely insist this be called ALIEN:  SOMETHING SOMETHING?   

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post #33 of 39
1/15/11 at 10:54am
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Now I am really interested. I want humans facing a different species, life cycle, threat, scenario etc. I should depart from the tons of cheap imitations that followed the original Alien.

The last time some suit asked Lindelof to take over a simple concept was like a plane crashes on an island, like Survivor. He came up with Lost instead. 

Not to de-rail the thread, but did you forget how that turned out in the end?

 

I'm about as intrigued in this film as I was before. I don't trust Lindelof as writer, and the most recent Ridley Scott film I enjoy on all fronts is Legend. I have no doubt it will look gorgeous, it's awesome they've got Giger on board and I do think it's pretty great that Ridley is returning to world building sci-fi. However I can't get on the bandwagon 100%. I'm still a little unclear from the quotes what connection this will have to the Alien film series.  Maybe Rapace's crew works for Weyland-Yutani or something?
 

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post #34 of 39
1/15/11 at 6:03pm

I think It's still in the Alien universe. And the space jockeys/xenomorphs origins are still a part of the story. It's just that bigger concept is that this is a hard Sci-Fi film about terraforming and biological warfare. Yeah, it's in the same universe as the Nostromo tale, but hell, you might not even see the original iconic Xenomorph design in this film.

 

 

 

 

April 2010

 

 

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Scott: I think, therefore, I have to design — or redesign — earlier versions of what these elements are that led to the thing you finally see in "Alien," which is the thing that catapults out of the egg, the face-hugger.

MTV: OK.

Scott: I don't want to repeat it. The alien in a sense, as a shape, is worn out.

MTV: Will you consult the original alien designer, H.R. Giger, on these ideas?

Scott: Yeah, he's still around. Once I get more serious and get going, and the big wheels start turning, we'll certainly talk. And maybe we'll come up with something completely different.

 

 

 

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Scott: It's set in 2085, about 30 years before Sigourney [Weaver's character Ellen Ripley]. It's fundamentally about going out to find out 'Who the hell was that Space Jockey?' The guy who was sitting in the chair in the alien vehicle — there was a giant fellow sitting in a seat on what looked to be either a piece of technology or an astronomer's chair. Remember that?

MTV: Of course.

Scott: And our man [Tom Skerritt as Captain Dallas] climbs up and says "There's been an explosion in his chest from the inside out — what was that?" I'm basically explaining who that Space Jockey — we call him the Space Jockey — I'm explaining who the space jockeys were.

MTV: And is the Weyland-Yutani company in existence at this point?

Scott: It's Weyland. Weyland hasn't joined Yutani yet, so they go and see Weyland. [The film] is about the discussion of terraforming — taking planets and planetoids and balls of earth and trying to terraform, seed them with the possibilities of future life.

MTV: We know how obsessive "Alien" fans can get. Are you going to make a film that doesn't require having seen any of the other movies?

Scott: Totally. Yes. [People will still get it], because there's a lot of copying, dude.

 

Sept. 2010

 

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 The film will be really tough, really nasty. It’s the dark side of the moon. We are talking about gods and engineers. Engineers of space. And were the aliens designed as a form of biological warfare? Or biology that would go in and clean up a planet?
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post #35 of 39
1/15/11 at 10:51pm

Count me in as confused, but hopeful.  I really cannot wait to see a new Ridley Scott sci-fi movie, xenomorphs or not.

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post #36 of 39
1/16/11 at 8:03am
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Do people really think that Fox isn't going to absolutely insist this be called ALIEN:  SOMETHING SOMETHING?   


Of course they're going to, and of course there's going to be some fanwankery involved to make it seem like it has something, anything to do with the Alien universe. This is FOX and unless something has changed over there and they've stopped being a bunch of corporate assmonkeys, then I just can't get excited yet. And where exactly is this confidence in Scott coming from? Dude is the very definition of hit-or-miss. I'm not trying to shit all over this project...I just haven't heard one single thing to make me think it's going to be good or exciting.

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post #37 of 39
1/16/11 at 9:08am

There is nothing but good news in the article! Great stuff.

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post #38 of 39
1/16/11 at 9:21am

Not to be a complete nerd, but if this is only set in the Alien Universe it's being very slavish to "continuity" so far. If the movie is set in 2085 and is thirty years before Alien, that synchs up with Aliens taking place fifty seven years after the first movie. Ripley yells something at Burke about how he sent an order on "0-6-1-2-7-9 signed Burke Carter J.", meaning 2179 I suppose.

 

As well, and I doubt this was intentional, both Alien vs. Predator movies show that the Weyland and Yutani corporations haven't merged yet, so this follows that. Weird...

 

I'd also like to imagine that any movie set in the Alien universe is also the Bladerunner universe. Replicants, of course, being prototypes for the Ash and Bishop androids.

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post #39 of 39
1/16/11 at 11:31am

i like that idea

 

Deckard vs Aliens.....

 

the fan fic possibilities are endless :)

 

 

 

still, the interview gives lots of reasons to be excited. But as with all Alien or Predator movies, My expectations are fairly low

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