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Let's examine the Spider-Man stunt costume, shall we?
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Nifty. Nike really outdid themselves on this one.

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Eh. I still think the suit is more than a bit "over-designed." Every new line and every new "twist" on the design just makes me think, "why?" Just because? It looks worse than the traditional suit so... why? Just to be different?

post #4 of 38

The web shooters were confirmed by Stone at the Golden Globes.

Nice design.

post #5 of 38

He looks kind of like CGI in that shot, oddly enough.

 

Prefer the old costume way more. *shrug*

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This is such a weird project, and I'm not so sure if anyone is excited about it or just morbidly curious. Also, neither film version of the costume looks like something a poor kid from Queens could put together on his own, but whatever. Actually, it reminds of this shit right here:

 

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It reminded me of that design too, actually. I quite liked that redesign when I saw it in the comics, but it would be too much for a movie.

 

They should have kept up this reboot angle, but called the character Ben Reilly. That way, you leave the option for Tobey to return in a movie with TWO Spider-Men, really the only way you could get the public interested in the Clone Saga.

 

I've been drinking.

post #8 of 38

The mask reminds me of the old live action Spider-Man show.

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The mask reminds me of the old live action Spider-Man show.



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Yup.

post #10 of 38

I don't actively dislike the new costume, I just think they really nailed it last time. Either way, there's no way a kid is making either of them at home, like JacknifeJohnny said..

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The mask reminds me of the old live action Spider-Man show.



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Yup.


That was my thought as well, actually I'd take the TV show version of this new one.

 

Jesus Fucking Christ it looks aweful.

post #12 of 38

The Raimi suit still stands as the best costume in superhero film history. That new suit is dumb. But I don't like Nolan's Batsuit at all either and I love his Batfilms, so I guess it doesn't really matter.

 

But that suit is dumb. 

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This is definitely a weird project that I'm not that interested in, but IMHO? This suit is better than the Rami one. The Rami suit looked like it cost millions of dollars and took hundreds of hours to construct. Even the design seemed more suited (no pun intended!) to a arachnid enthusiast than an actual spider man. This latest one looks like it's more closely based on how spiders actually look (in terms of coloration ETC)

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This is definitely a weird project that I'm not that interested in, but IMHO? This suit is better than the Rami one. The Rami suit looked like it cost millions of dollars and took hundreds of hours to construct. Even the design seemed more suited (no pun intended!) to a arachnid enthusiast than an actual spider man. This latest one looks like it's more closely based on how spiders actually look (in terms of coloration ETC)


What the hell does this even mean?

 

There is no way that this suit is in any way a more logical design than the original Raimi suit on any level whatsoever for any reason. It does not look like something a teenager could create. It does not look more like a spider. It does not look less expensive. It is just a redesign for a redesign's sake to differentiate it from the Raimi series and to sell more toys. That is the only "logic" behind it.

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This is definitely a weird project that I'm not that interested in, but IMHO? This suit is better than the Rami one. The Rami suit looked like it cost millions of dollars and took hundreds of hours to construct. Even the design seemed more suited (no pun intended!) to a arachnid enthusiast than an actual spider man. This latest one looks like it's more closely based on how spiders actually look (in terms of coloration ETC)


What the hell does this even mean?

 

There is no way that this suit is in any way a more logical design than the original Raimi suit on any level whatsoever for any reason. It does not look like something a teenager could create. It does not look more like a spider. It does not look less expensive. It is just a redesign for a redesign's sake to differentiate it from the Raimi series and to sell more toys. That is the only "logic" behind it.


Means just what I said. The sort of blobs of color look like color patterns I've seen on spider abdomens and legs. The old one had a web design all over it, which isn't something an actual usually is covered in 

 

Anyway, it's just a matter of opinion. I like the Garfield suit more. Looks like something a teenager might create perhaps

post #16 of 38

Kate this suit looks even more professionally produced than the Rami one.

 

It's such an iconic design why mess with it?

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Kate this suit looks even more professionally produced than the Rami one.

 

It's such an iconic design why mess with it?



Really? That silver plastic webbing on the Rami one would have needed to be custom molded or something. That always bothered me. It was cool looking, but it didn't make sense for a spider to be covered in it's own webs. The whole point is that they don't stick to their own webbing. It looked like a costume created by someone who looked at alot of photos of spiders and webs, not by a guy who was himself some sort of spider hybrid. Also, it looked like something that Peter could never have made on his own

 

As for the iconic status, have there not been many different versions already over the years?

 

Anyway, agree to disagree?

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I've been drinking.

That's pretty obvious.  Ben Reilly?  No.
 

 



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As for the iconic status, have there not been many different versions already over the years?

Yeah, and they've all been met with pretty much universal scorn and have been trashed quickly. 

 

 

I really hate the leg stripes.  I hate the shoulders.  I hate the skinny arm stripes.  I hate the no belt and the rounded off abdomen red part.  Ugh.
 

post #19 of 38

Have you actually looked at the high-res photo of Garfield in the suit? There are crazy textures all over it, and the webbing, while not raised, is just as complicated as the Raimi suit. There is no way a teenager could have made it by hand, a factory would be required. I actually saw home-made versions of the Raimi suits at Comic-cons that were pretty convincing. There's no way someone could make a home-made version of this suit unless they have some heavy duty machinery.

 

This response was directed at Kate. 

 

I dunno, maybe a super crafty person could replicate that suit but I doubt it. 

post #20 of 38

This whole enterprise feels like a superfluous exercise.

 

No worries, the kids can have their Ultimo Spider-guy. The Spiderman 2  blu exists & that's all the Spidey I'll ever need.

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Have you actually looked at the high-res photo of Garfield in the suit? There are crazy textures all over it, and the webbing, while not raised, is just as complicated as the Raimi suit. There is no way a teenager could have made it by hand, a factory would be required. I actually saw home-made versions of the Raimi suits at Comic-cons that were pretty convincing. There's no way someone could make a home-made version of this suit unless they have some heavy duty machinery.


 

I just looked at the photo. Didn't spend too much time agonizing over the details, I'll admit. Anyway, I stand by my statements



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I've been drinking.

That's pretty obvious.  Ben Reilly?  No.
 

 



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As for the iconic status, have there not been many different versions already over the years?

Yeah, and they've all been met with pretty much universal scorn and have been trashed quickly. 

 

 

I really hate the leg stripes.  I hate the shoulders.  I hate the skinny arm stripes.  I hate the no belt and the rounded off abdomen red part.  Ugh.
 

OK well I have not really read any of the comics so I can't speak to how the other versions were received, I can only say I hate how Toby's torso looked like a shirt that he was wearing over blue pants. The skinny arm stripes are a very true to life spider detail. I don't know why he'd need a belt either, if it's a form fitting outfit. That is the whole point of a body suit, that you don't need a belt to hold it up
 

post #22 of 38

Princess Kate, I do not care that the suit is something that a teen could make or not.  I liked MacGuire's Suit, and now Garfield's.  Of course there is a...HUGE, upgrade in Garfield's suit, if those shiny things on his wrist are...Web shooters.  Those, Automatically, make Garfield's Suit better!

post #23 of 38
Not a fan of organic webbing, Fleed? How come? To me, it always seemed dubious that a kid, even a very clever one, could design industrial strength web fluid and firing device that fits on, or underneath, his costume.
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Kate you really need to have read some of the comics, or at least re watch the first moive.  The costume is not supposed to reflect a real spider its a wrestling costume he wore in the ring.

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Bluelouboyle, I always felt how...Awesome, it was that a high school student would be able to develop something like, Web Shooters, and a formula for webbing.  Plus, the whole...Concept of Spider-Man is so over the top, that looking at a high school kid developing webbing is the thing people can't wrap their heads around?  He was bitten by a...Radioactive Spider, and he gained special abilites instead of dying.  Also, Peter Parker is not the only supergenius in the Marvel Universe, just the youngest.  He never put a patent on his tech, as people might put 2 and 2 together and realize, Spider-Man is actually Peter Parker, the guy who filed the patent.  Finally, I have a...High Suspension of belief.  It doesn't matter to me that something in a comic or film cannot happen in the real world.  It only matters to me, that it fits into the concept of the show/comic/movie in question.  Also, producing his own web fluid strikes me as a little on the gross side too.

post #26 of 38
Goid point Fleed. I'm still not certain that it will work in a movie though. It's an interesting idea though. Makes him more vunerable.
post #27 of 38

He's running for us, son.  He's running for us.

 

It's OK.  These things hardly ever look the same in the movie as they look in these stills. 

 

The movie will probably be shit, tho.  I'm sure the kids will love it.

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OK well I have not really read any of the comics so I can't speak to how the other versions were received, I can only say I hate how Toby's torso looked like a shirt that he was wearing over blue pants. The skinny arm stripes are a very true to life spider detail. I don't know why he'd need a belt either, if it's a form fitting outfit. That is the whole point of a body suit, that you don't need a belt to hold it up
 

It's not a literal belt. 

 

True to life spider detail? 

 

what

 

I don't even
 

post #29 of 38

Okay, so... like...

 

Ugh. I'm defending her, or something. But yeah.

 

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Leg stripes. But I'm 109% certain that they did not have spiders in mind when they designed the costume.

 

The costume is dumb. Real dumb. If the rest of the movie is great, fine, awesome. But there was no reason to change the suit that drastically. And it'll be the first thing to go when a new director takes over the sequel.

post #30 of 38

Am I just blind? I think they look pretty much the same. The color looks a little better to me on the new suit and the texture seems different but as far as I can tell he looks like Spiderman.

post #31 of 38

Clearly, some of you haven't spent a lot of time analyzing Spider-Man's costume. That suit looks NOTHING like the original suit. It's practically not even recognizable as Spider-Man. Get a life, people.

 

OK, maybe I'm the one who needs to get a life, but still THAT OUTFIT SUX

post #32 of 38

I don't know, the  way I look at it is the costume itself is not the most important part of the film. He looks like Spider Man, and you don't have to squint to see it. So what if there's a splash of blue where there wasn't in the previous film? Personally I think that Val Kilmer's batsuit in Batman Forever looks the best, but I don't think Batman Forever is the best Batman film. After rewatching Red Riding: 1974 the other night, and Social Network the other week, I think Garfield's going to knock this out of the park and it's not going to matter what he's wearing.

post #33 of 38

You do realize you just defended the first Batsuit to have nipples, right?

 

It's true, the crummy suit will have no bearing on the quality of the film, and I agree wholeheartedly the Garfiled is a great choice for Peter. But we're nitpicking the costume here, cause that's what nerds do.

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You do realize you just defended the first Batsuit to have nipples, right?

 

It's true, the crummy suit will have no bearing on the quality of the film, and I agree wholeheartedly the Garfiled is a great choice for Peter. But we're nitpicking the costume here, cause that's what nerds do.


Fair enough. Honestly I'm very interested to see how the suit looks in motion, and on film. Then I think we can really gauge whether or not it sucks.

 

And I forgot about the nipples on Kilmer's suit, I thought they started that with Clooney, but I sincerely think Kilmer had the best looking cowl and suit, despite his unable to maneuver properly in it. At the end of the day though it kind of helps prove my point in that in the grand scheme of things a tiny change in the established costume really doesn't matter. End of tangent. 

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It's funny, when I read this sentence:

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I don't know, the  way I look at it is the costume itself is not the most important part of the film. He looks like Spider Man, and you don't have to squint to see it.

I got ready to post a picture of Batnipples to counter argue.  But you went and defended them.  I am outflanked.  And flummoxed.

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It's funny, when I read this sentence:

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I don't know, the  way I look at it is the costume itself is not the most important part of the film. He looks like Spider Man, and you don't have to squint to see it.

I got ready to post a picture of Batnipples to counter argue.  But you went and defended them.  I am outflanked.  And flummoxed.


Lol. Dude I think compared to everything else in the Schumacher films, the nipples were pretty harmless. If we get Rhys Ifans jumping around in a flamboyant leotard shouting bad lizard puns I'll definitely abandon my defense of the movie and the costumes. But like I said from what I've seen I think the suit looks fine.

post #38 of 38

Is anyone else getting worried that Spider-Man won't be clever and witty in this film, either?

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