OSCAR NOMINATIONS, 2011 - Page 2

Winter's Bone deserves everything it can get. My favorite of the year.

Banksy's an Oscar nominee. I hope that they do something with that. Hawkes, Lawrence, Williams and Restrepo getting nominated made me smile. The Hereafter nom for FX still has me scratching my head.

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Winter's Bone deserves everything it can get. My favorite of the year.

I need to see this now.  Hoped against hope that it was on Netflix instant, and alas it wasn't, but I need to see it somehow. 

I'm ashamed to admit I didn't recognize the name John Hawkes, but once I saw him I was like "YES!!"

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By the way, I'm rather proud that of this being the first Oscars since '05 where I've seen all the nominees.

I always try to do this every year, and come up short for one reason or another.

 

 When I was in college, in L.A., there were two years when I saw every nominee in every category, save most of the short films and a couple of the foreign-language nominees. Ah, them was the days...

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Banksy's an Oscar nominee. I hope that they do something with that.

Somewhere, Rupert Murdoch is running towards the AMPAS offices in slow motions, screaming "NOOOOOOOO".

CNN is so current and with the times.  On there being 10 nominees for Best Picture:  "They really need to knock this down to 5!"

Wow.

Wait, Nick, you really think The Fighter is going to win best picture? I can't see that happening, at all.

Also, I concur that Inception got snubbed as far as editing and directing go.

And while Exit Through the Gift Shop is by far the best documentary nominated, I'm thinking the questions about it's legitimacy will fuck up it's chances to win.

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Seeing Hawkes get a nom for Winter's Bone is a pleasant surprise-- he won't win but he'll get attention nonetheless and I can't really complain about that. As far as everything else, let me echo the "what the fuck" reaction to Nolan getting shafted for direction and Inception and Scott Pilgrim getting shafted on editing. I never had a delusion that Scott Pilgrim was a serious Oscar contender or anything, but it never seemed outside the realm of possibility that it could get an editing nom. Looks like I was more deluded than I realize.
 

The Best Editing category almost always mirrors the Best Picture one.  Pilgrim had a snowflake's chance in hell of getting in on that.

I wouldn't be surprised if The Fighter ends up upsetting everyone and winning all of its categories. Its the kind of film the academy love

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By the way, I'm rather proud that of this being the first Oscars since '05 where I've seen all the nominees.

I always try to do this every year, and come up short for one reason or another.

 

Although as far as the Best Picture nominees go, I only need to see The King's Speech, Winter's Bone, and The Kids Are All Right.

I'm missing THE FIGHTER (seeing it this Friday - doubly looking forward to it after Bale/Leo/Adams nominations), THE KIDS ARE ALL RIGHT and TRUE GRIT (not out here yet).

Wait... why is Toy Story 3 adapted screenplay?

Sequel.

Really?  Has that always been the case for sequels?  That seems really weird to me.

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Seeing Hawkes get a nom for Winter's Bone is a pleasant surprise-- he won't win but he'll get attention nonetheless and I can't really complain about that. As far as everything else, let me echo the "what the fuck" reaction to Nolan getting shafted for direction and Inception and Scott Pilgrim getting shafted on editing. I never had a delusion that Scott Pilgrim was a serious Oscar contender or anything, but it never seemed outside the realm of possibility that it could get an editing nom. Looks like I was more deluded than I realize.
 

The Best Editing category almost always mirrors the Best Picture one.  Pilgrim had a snowflake's chance in hell of getting in on that.

Hence me being more deluded than I'd realized. Still, no arguing that it certainly would have deserved it.

As to the ten BP noms-- I haven't seen True Grit, 127 Hours, The Kids Are All Right, or The Fighter. I only care about seeing the first two, though I won't get around to seeing True Grit before it leaves theaters I'd wager. Shame on me.

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Really?  Has that always been the case for sequels?  That seems really weird to me.

Yeah, because the screenplay based on characters from a previous work. Godfather Part 2 won best adapted screenplay, despite not being based on any Puzo book.

I hate to say it because I love them, but outside of Supporting Actress and Best Pic (since there's 10 noms), I just don't jive with all the True Grit noms.

I haven't seen The King's Speech yet, but I think Nolan totally deserved the nom more than the Coens.

Banksy should present the Best Art Direction award from the shadowed corner of the Kodak Theater.   If they don't do that, count on Franco dressing up as a hooded "Banksy" clone for a visual gag at one point. 

I've seen 9 out of the 10, with THE KIDS ARE ALL RIGHT as my only omission at the moment. 

BARNEY'S VERSION has makeup?  Do they make Giamatti MORE bald in the film or something? 

I'm definitely sensing a Picture/Director split this year for KING'S/Fincher.  Might keep things a little interesting as three out of the four Acting awards are already locked. 

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Really?  Has that always been the case for sequels?  That seems really weird to me.

Yeah, because the screenplay based on characters from a previous work. Godfather Part 2 won best adapted screenplay, despite not being based on any Puzo book.

While I'm sure you're correct in general, isn't some of the young Vito section in Godfather II taken from the original novel?

It's interesting that, outside of some of the technical nods like Alice in Wonderland, Salt, and Unstoppable, there really aren't any ridiculous, embarrassing nominations, even in the 10-slot Best Picture category. Even Nolan, as has been said, was bumped for a really strong lineup.

Though if they were going to be bumping a director for bullshit reasons, I would have thought it would be David O. Russell. He can't be well-liked in Hollywood.

I can't really argue against Godfather II being an adapted screenplay given that all of the De Niro bits come from the book. But with stuff like Before Sunset it feels really weird. Is basing a screenplay on existing characters really any less 'original' than basing them on real life people or events?

So, yeah.The Nolan exclusion in the director category is really glaring, almost spitefully so I think.

The nominations told me a few things:

1. I guess Inception directed itself.

2. I really really hope Steinfeld wins for her True Grit performance...although it should have been a leading actress nom. One of the best performances I've seen in some time.

3. I really need to watch more of these movies...but that's what happens when I can't find babysitters, gotta wait for Netflix :). The King's Speech is on my shortlist, but the entire crop of BP noms looks quite good.

John Hawkes! In the David Paymer/Michael Lerner slot! Enjoy working the rest of your life, Hawkes.

I wouldn't change anything about the nominees. Well, less for Kings Speech. But otherwise, boffo. It's a weird position to be in, but it's a weak year, I guess.

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I can't really argue against Godfather II being an adapted screenplay given that all of the De Niro bits come from the book. But with stuff like Before Sunset it feels really weird. Is basing a screenplay on existing characters really any less 'original' than basing them on real life people or events?

Yeah, it's BS.  But I'm sure it's simply based on a technicality.  In an industry where Rush Hour 2 needs to credit the original writer of Rush Hour for the characters it 'created'... 

The combo deal!  What if someone makes a sequel to a movie about a real person or event?  As weird as that sounds to me right now, I'm sure it's been done.  Once someone mentions an obvious example, I will slap my forehead.
 

I would've liked to have seen The American get a Sound Mixing/Editing nod. There was alot of very clever & interesting use of sound in that one.

Like everyone else said, Nolan's snub for Direction is flippin' bizarre. Who did he piss off? I hope Inception takes Best Original Screenplay & Best Picture just for that.

Eh, my guess on Nolan is less monolithic bloc voting or people snubbing or disliking him, and more that Inception's vote total is probably closer to #8 or 9 on the Best Picture list than #3 or 4.

The real surprise to me this year is the relatively poor showing that True Grit made in all the other awards before these-- I mean, they've got TEN slots for actors in the Golden Globes, and they couldn't find room for Bridges.

The surprise strong showing for A Serious Man last year suggested it already but I guess True Grit officially cements the Coens as acadamy darlings.

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The surprise strong showing for A Serious Man last year suggested it already but I guess True Grit officially cements the Coens as acadamy darlings.

Which, to me, is hilarious, because they're the least Award-grubbing major filmmakers I can think of. I hope being the toast of Hollywood doesn't ruin them.

Weird thing is, they weren't Academy darlings until No Country. They had nods for the screenplay for Fargo and O Brother, but other than that they were largely ignored, too "quirky" I guess. There's also the Academy bias against nominating comedies, so that might also have something to do with it.

Nolan got hosed. For some reason it doesnt surprise me though. Also, the lack of Tron: Legacy for original score is utter CRAP.

I'm just here to add for the Winter's Bone love . Totally surprised by it's nominations. Hawkes is the rightful winner, but Bale will take it.

Also, BANSKY.

King's Speech is taking picture.

Chris Nolan, Mina Kunis, and Andrew Garfield all got snubbed.

Edit: Oh, and Noomi Rapace too.

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Weird thing is, they weren't Academy darlings until No Country. They had nods for the screenplay for Fargo and O Brother, but other than that they were largely ignored, too "quirky" I guess. There's also the Academy bias against nominating comedies, so that might also have something to do with it.

I think it's probably cos they'd had their little fallow period and been away for a while, and by the time they finally came back with a winner the greatness of their earlier stuff had had time to properly sink in. No Country seemed to me to be the first Coen movie where the world 'got' them and what they were about and was ready and waiting to love it. The No Country wins kind of came across as an 'it's their time' career celebration moment, but 10 nominations for True Grit on top of that shows that they're really quite beloved at this point. Which is cool. But my main hope is that it will finally correct the debacle that is Roger Deakins' lack of oscar love.

Great to see Weaver nominated, would make my oscar night if she upset the apple cart and won her slot. Kind of sad that's Animal Kingdoms only nomination tho.

Other than that, Nolan does seem to have been snubbed a bit. 

...and am I the only person still being put off by having ten best picture nominees? The whole list looks so crowded and frankly ridiculous to me that I find my eyes drifting to the best director list to get a sense of what the 'real' list should be.

All of you need to stop fretting; Nolan will get fellated for The Dark Knight Rises and no one will have to die for it to happen.

I think the 10 nominations and the Nolan snub are intimately linked. It's conspiratorial, but it makes sense. The 10 slots are to make room for one or two genre/popular pictures so the Oscars get ratings and retain a certain relevance (for the time being), and that's all about what happened with TDK. It's spite, it almost has to be. The Oscars aren't all that interesting to me (though I'm always pleased to see a filmmaker I admire get their moment), no award show is, but the politics behind them are kind of fascinating.

That said, Nolan will just have to bury his woes in all that fucking cash and critical praise he gets. Hitchcock never won a competetive Oscar, Nolan, and you ain't at that level yet, baby. 

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that's also kind of a comedy to get an Oscar nod.

Well played Greece. Well played.

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The combo deal!  What if someone makes a sequel to a movie about a real person or event?  As weird as that sounds to me right now, I'm sure it's been done.  Once someone mentions an obvious example, I will slap my forehead.
 

French Connection II?

Butch and Sundance: The Early Days?

I hope Firth and Rush both win.  Rush in particular because he laid it down.  I did not see The Fighter.

Although it's hard to discount what Eisenberg did in The Social Network.  Yes Firth had a gimmick but he was still incredibly good.  Actually - I've changed my mind, I hope Eisenberg wins because he was insanely good in that movie.  I just think of that last scene, where he's clicking the refresh button, all he is doing is sitting there...but he FUCKING OWNS sitting there.  I think I only liked what Firth was doing because of what Rush was doing.  Although it may have helped that I kept thinking of Barbossa every time Rush came on screen.  But I also kept thinking of Hans Landa.

I have no idea why the Academy does not like Nolan.

Reznor should win score.

I, because I suck, have not seen The Black Swan yet but I would be fine with either The Social Network or The King's Speech winning best picture because both were very very good.  Both of them were better than Inception - not by much really, but both were definitely better.  I have no idea how to choose between the two of them honestly.  Normally Rashida Jones would win it for Social Network but HBC was so much fun to watch in The Kings Speech it's tough.  Plus Jones was barely in the movie.  OK, Reznor's Score, for me, puts Social Network on top.

Why would Rashida Jones win? First off, she's not nominated, and second, she has a grand total of seven lines. Granted, one of them is the important final line, but come on. There's nothing there.

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Well played Greece. Well played.

 

On behalf of Greece, I gratefully accept your congratulations.

I feel the film industry is horribly stagnant in Greece and an actually cool and original movie getting recognized will hopefully provide people with a push to get them out of their rut.  

Overall I'm pleased, because these days you can really only ask that they get it 75% correct. Used to be you could only count on them getting it like 40% correct.

I'm thrilled about the Winter's Bone love, very deserving acting nominations. And hey, that Best Picture list really ain't half bad... that's kinda almost my top 10 of the year, so I certainly can't have many complaints unless they give it to Toy Story 3 or something.

Rashida Jones? Was that a joke that I don't get?

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No Nolan is a surprise, maybe he's still seen as too 'genre'.

This is actually the best point yet made. It resembles Spielberg before Schindler's to a T. The Academy is sometimes fond to not recognize brillance when its commercially huge. Ridley Scott's snub for Best Picture winner Gladiator still resonates on that front.

Nice to see Parker call out the Coen's and also I agree about The Fighter. Thats the kind of feel good film the Academy always goes ape for.

I have to kind of come out and say this but I feel like 2010 was a huge year for Leonardo DiCaprio and I think his work in Shutter Island and Inception was brilliant and deserved recognition especially over Bridges who won last year and won't be winning this year.

Also I have to admit I would have liked Clint Mansel and Daft Punk being recognized. Holy shit is Zimmer's work great though.

Lastly just to show the Academy is almost total bullshit how can you not nominate a juggernaut like Inception for editing?

Black Swan's exclusion was due to relying heavily on established musical cues(similar as to why Johnny Greenwood wasn't nominated for There Will Be Blood). Which is a shame because Black Swan presents the Acadmey to have an interpretive dance number that wouldn't feel out of place.

I'm surprised Trent Reznor got nominated because of his use of "In The Hall of the Mountain King", and I guess re-using some of his prior work on Ghosts(maybe that doesn't count because he made tha music).

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I'm surprised Trent Reznor got nominated because of his use of "In The Hall of the Mountain King", and I guess re-using some of his prior work on Ghosts(maybe that doesn't count because he made tha music).

I didn't know about that. It's kind of odd because didn't Greenwood get blocked for reusing some of his own orchestral music?

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Am I missing Nick's picks for best original screenplay or am I going blind???

Nick's going with the smart money and backing Social Network. I have to agree-- it's the sort of movie that makes you constantly aware of the writing. But where is Adapted Screenplay? (ETA: Argh, read it wrong-- TSN is adapted, and the noms for Original appear much further down the page. And yeah, it's King's Speech's to lose.) But can someone please clue me to what Toy Story 3 was adapted from that it landed in that category?

As for Best Score, I'm pulling for Dragon. Daft Punk? They delivered a dance album, not a score-- their nonstop beats dampen the action of Tron Legacy instead of accenting it.

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I'm surprised Trent Reznor got nominated because of his use of "In The Hall of the Mountain King", and I guess re-using some of his prior work on Ghosts(maybe that doesn't count because he made tha music).

I didn't know about that. It's kind of odd because didn't Greenwood get blocked for reusing some of his own orchestral music?

Pretty sure Alexandre Desplat composed only about a third of the music heard in The King's Speech, the rest (and most memorable bits) being Beethoven, Mozart and Handel, but there he is. Ah, technicalities.

The Social Network is adapted screenplay. For original screenplay I'd have to agree with Nick. I'd love for The King's Speech to win.

And I have to respectfully disagree about Daft Punk. I loved how unabashedly sci-fi their score was.

It's good music, but it really doesn't serve the action of the film.