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"Cavill."

Dear lord, this is going to return to bickering about the designs of shield, isn't it?

"The Tudors" was a regular watch in my house for years, and I never had any problem with Cavel or his performance whatsoever; besides, the role of Kent/Superman is usually a huge gamble when it comes to casting, and so far, it has a story of paying off when casting an unknown or "lesser actor" (im not going to be a cad and mention what Reeves and Routh were up to before their turns as Superman).

Also, the Shield thing was a bit jerkish reference to a argument you once made about the designs of the knight's shields in KOH...see, Superman wears a shield too...fine, pun was horrible, lets move on.

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He looks the part, and that's about it. The guys a zero, and more than Snyder it's this news that gives me the most pause about this project. Sure, there might be compelling action, music and if we're lucky, even a rousing story. Unfortunately, the casting of Henry Cavel cancels all of that out. It's KINGDOM OF HEAVEN syndrome. When your lead is a dud, no matter what else your movie has going for it sometimes that deficit is impossible to overcome

 

Dear lord, this is going to return to bickering about the designs of shield, isn't it?

How do you mean? Look, I like SM. I am sure you guys do too, and want this film to turn out well. However, most of you seem to not be familiar with Mr Cavel or his talents. I've seen four seasons of a show that featured this cad as a lead, and am simply trying to give you guys a heads up as to what to expect

Seriously, if you think I'm exaggerating then by all means check out the TUDORS for yourself. Just don't say I didn't warn you

How cool would it be if they went for a Red Son type of story? Only instead of Superman crashing in the Ukraine, it's the UK? If you want to be cute he can crash in Kent. And emerge to the public right in the middle of the collapse of the British Empire?

I don't mean to blow my own horn but this is the best idea in the history of mankind. Or not. But I still think it's interesting.

Edit: Oh shit, I swear I didn't read the previous post.

How cool would it be if they went for a Red Son type of story? Only instead of Superman crashing in the Ukraine, it's the UK? If you want to be cute he can crash in Kent. And emerge to the public right in the middle of the collapse of the British Empire?

I don't mean to blow my own horn but this is the best idea in the history of mankind. Or not. But I still think it's interesting.

Edit: Oh shit, I swear I didn't read the previous post.

I loved The Tudors, and Cavill was the best part of it. Despite a bad decision, he was the only person in the royal court who you could almost always root for. He was loyal even when his heart knew it shouldn't be, something I think would go well with a Superman movie (especially if it's set nowadays). He's fantastic, handsome, the women will absolutely adore him and I love this casting. Who cares if he's British? If he's not Kryptonian, then fuck it all. Supes an immigrant, which makes him clinging to the American values all the more meaningful.

Is this the guy from that White Collar show? or is that someone else?

Oh you've got to be kidding me...
 

Henry Cavel? Henry Cavel? Far from being unknown to me, his name carries with it extremely negative connotations. I first heard of him years ago, back when BOND 21 was in the works. Cavel had been mentioned in connection with the film as a possible 007, and I'd initially balked at the idea. A 22 year old James Bond? Didn't seem right. After I went to see LAYERCAKE in July of Aught Four, I threw my chips in with Mr Craig, and hoped against hope that Eon would have the good sense to cast an adult in the role. As luck would have it, Craig won out and the Bond franchise is the better for it. Cavel's name disappeared from the headlines, and all was right in the world
 

Then, in 2007, as my favorite thing of all time (ROME) was ending, a little show called "THE TUDORS" came out. Trashy, silly and stuffed to the brim with performers of questionable merit, the TUDORS was a boring slog mired in Christian morality, hardly a fitting replacement for the "hot, wild city" that was Rome

For some reason unknown to science, I stuck with TUDORS and eventually watched every episode of all four seasons. Having endured every last minute of that mind numbing drudgery, I feel like I am as qualified as anyone alive to comment on the skills of Mr Henry Cavel
 

In short? The emperor has no clothes. He's as bland as toast, and only half as bright. Lacking even the most basic level of charisma usually expected of a series lead on a major television production, he's as ill suited to shoulder the responsibilities of carrying a major franchise film as anyone I can imagine. He may be handsome, but I'll be darned if I can figure out what else the actor has going for him. It sure isn't his ability to deliver a compelling performance. When Jonathan Reese Meyers makes you look like a soap opera amateur on an episode by episode basis for four years running, perhaps it's time to pack it in
 

His role on TUDORS, interestingly enough, should give us some insight into how he'd fare in the blue tights. On TUDORS, he's tasked with playing the sometimes conflicted but morally pure good guy, the voice of reason. He utterly fails to make the role interesting. Worse still, he is a black hole of charisma, neither capable of enlivening the staid proceedings  nor, perhaps more troublingly, even delivering his lines in a believable manner

He's the very definition of "bland pretty boy", and I fear he has nothing to offer a major production like Superman

The character of Kal El is one studios have struggled with for decades. How do you make the Boy Scout interesting? In a world awash with fascinating, lively anti heroes, it's sometimes tough to make good old fashioned do gooding seem cinematic. Henry Cavel's career offers irrefutable proof that it's a task for which he couldn't be less suited

He looks the part, and that's about it. The guys a zero, and more than Snyder it's this news that gives me the most pause about this project. Sure, there might be compelling action, music and if we're lucky, even a rousing story. Unfortunately, the casting of Henry Cavel cancels all of that out. It's KINGDOM OF HEAVEN syndrome. When your lead is a dud, no matter what else your movie has going for it sometimes that deficit is impossible to overcome
 

Mark my words: Cavel is terrible. Bond dodged a bullet but SM wasn't so lucky. He's going to be terrible, but playing Cassandra to Nolan's SM gives me no pleasure. I wanted to like this movie, but I feel like it's important to at least speak up and let people know what they're in for with this guy

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RIP, Brandon Routh's SM. You truly were super, man

Well, alright then.

I loved The Tudors, and Cavill was the best part of it.