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PIMCO's Bill Gross Taunts Bond Holders, Bankers, Politicians ... and everyone else

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The guy is an efficient writer but the sheer density of the article is daunting, "Devil’s Bargain".
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Fifty years ago, the highest paid and most prestigious professions were that of a doctor or a 707 airline pilot who flew the “golden” route from Los Angeles to Honolulu. Today the yellow brick road begins on Wall Street or the City. Aside from supernova innovators such as Steve Jobs or Mark Zuckerberg, the money is made from securitizing things instead of booting and rebuilding America. The tallest buildings in almost every major city are banks, with tens of thousands of people shuffling and trading paper for a living.
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Having been part of this process and even a member of the rogue’s gallery itself, I know one thing for sure: This is not God’s work – it has the unmistakable odor of Mammon. PIMCO, while Mammonesque, is a company to be proud of. I can say with confidence that there are very few clients who have not benefited from our investment management over the years. Some of the rest of this industry, however, I’m not so sure of: rating agencies that perpetually fail at commonsensical quality judgments, bankers that make loans to subterranean credits and then extend the beggar’s bowl for themselves, and 80% of active money managers that underperform the market. As a profession we have failed miserably at our primary function – the efficient and productive allocation of capital: The S&L debacle of the early 1980s, the Asian crisis, LTCM, dotcoms, subprimes, Lehman and the resurrection, instead of the reformation, of Wall Street, are major sins of the modern era of money. Hang your heads, moneychangers. And no, it is not yet time to move on, as many banking CEOs suggest. How can bond traders make ten, one hundred, one thousand times more money than an engineer or social worker given their dismal historical performance? Why is it that some of today’s doctors are using food stamps while investment banking executives complain about millions of dollars in compensation that might be deferred in case of a future bailout?
Thinking about it a bit it reminds me of /.'s standard form for responding to anti-spam proposals, where the option for "technical fix to a behaviour/social problem" is ticked.

Sure rebalancing incentives might fix some of the problems, but I fear the ingrained worship of wealth==worth is just making this a losing game of whack-a-mole.
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I loves me some Bill Gross.

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Maybe I'm a complete imbecile (no comments from the peanut gallery pls) but some of that piece I was :D  and others I was :( .  Am I completely wrong in taking from that his distaste for Wall St. while at the same time promoting investment in the stock market over treasuries? 

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Am I completely wrong in taking from that his distaste for Wall St. while at the same time promoting investment in the stock market over treasuries? 

He's saying that US monetary policy is sneakily putting the burden of paying for the national debt on savers: those who have historically bought US treasuries and bonds as a safe, if unspectacular savings vehicle.

He recommends looking globally for positive, real returns while the US gets its financial house in order from both a regulatory and fiscal point of view.

 

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Thanks for the translation, sunwukong.  That's interesting.  I'm one of those "savers" he's talking about I guess.  But I don't think any international investment is any safer than US treasuries.  There's a commodities bubble on right now after all. 

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Thanks for the translation, sunwukong.  That's interesting.  I'm one of those "savers" he's talking about I guess.  But I don't think any international investment is any safer than US treasuries.  There's a commodities bubble on right now after all. 



Treasuries are indeed stll the "safest" investment on Earth, but Gross' point (that pretty much every other respectable economist agrees with) is that all things considered, the only guarantee you have with Treasuries over the next 5-10 years if that you're going to lose money from a real return (eg after inflation, etc) standpoint.

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OK on treasuries, but why push investment when even Goldman Sachs is sitting on its cash pile to wait out the commodities bubble? Maybe they'll figure out a way to profit on the inevitable crash and then push it over he edge.

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