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by Elisabeth Rappe: link

Superman gets a villainess. Well, that's one way to get some superhero equality!
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     Quote:

“Superman without Lois Lane is like Superman without Alfred”

 

Perfectly fine? =O

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Is there a way of doing Zod without just repeating what Stamp did (intellectual, British etc)?

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Is there a way of doing Zod without just repeating what Stamp did (intellectual, British etc)?



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I can't say I like where this is heading but it's way too early to panic. 

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It's fixed.  The brain does that transposing thing sometimes, you know....

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Fucks sake, if you want to distance yourself from the old movies after Bryan Singers shit film, then use one of at least half a dozen film worthy Superman villains. Brainiac, Metallo, Bizarro, even freaking Doomsday would be better.
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Fucks sake, if you want to distance yourself from the old movies after Bryan Singers shit film, then use one of at least half a dozen film worthy Superman villains. Brainiac, Metallo, Bizarro, even freaking Doomsday would be better.


I've always felt that Brainiac was the villain in Superman III.

Zod, Ursa, and Non do seem like lame-if-logical choices, though. If you're going to re-use a villain, why not break out Fortune 500 Luthor from under Land Baron Luthor? If you need somebody to physically match Superman, Doomsday, loathsome though he is as a character, is fairly well-known and is "prestige" enough to start a new series. Metallo seems sort of too second-string to carry a film but he is somebody for Superman to fight. Zod et al. are moderately well-known and present organic opportunities for slow-then-fast-then-slow action scenes, so I can see it.

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But I thought Zod's not going to be in this one? Maybe they're saving him for the next, making Ursa his Silver Surfer, so to speak?

Anyway, maybe it's just her name and the recent talk of "grizzly moms", but I think a character like that could be used to comment on Sarah Palin and her ilk: Women that seem to believe in the superior leadership abilities of their gender, yet make a mockery of feminist ideas and ideals, all while doing the bidding of powerful men.

 

Or, this being a Zack Snyder film, she could be a bisexual dominatrix with daddy issues that makes a shirtless Superman kneel before her in a climactic battle/sex scene while a cheesy 70's pop ballad plays.

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Why are they bringing back Superman 2 villains? Do something interesting. Have Braniac, the Parasite, Darkseid, hell bring in the Anti-Monitor and really go meta on the audience. Rehashing previous Superman movies again is just so boring. This all seems very underwhelming.

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Why are they bringing back Superman 2 villains? 



Well, probably because Superman has one of the worst rogues galleries in comics. 

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The problem isn't the film for bringing back an old villain. The problem is Superman's rogue's gallery being boring as shit.* Ask your average guy on the street to name a Superman villain other than Lex Luthor or General Zod, watch the blank stares happen. For a reboot this huge, especially since reboot #1 failed to set the audience on fire, recognition's important. And before somebody shouts objection and brings up The League Of Shadow/Ra's Al Ghul, also keep in mind: they worked that angle so it was more interesting as a battle of crime fighting ideologies and a link to Wayne's past than as class-A villains. Which is exactly the role General Zod fills, and there is NO ONE that interesting for Superman unless you start seriously reaching for shit.

 

It's the right choice.

 

 

*--EDIT: What joey said. Last time I stop to take a piss before I post.

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I'm not sure why the inclusion of Ursa means that Zod (or Non for that matter) is a foregone conclusion.  Nolan and co. haven't exactly been fearless about making changes in the Bat films, and I could easily see them mixing things up here, perhaps making Ursa Zod's herald/Silver Surfer, as someone mentioned upthread, or even eliminating Zod altogether.  Hell, given early rumors that the character was THE female lead in the film (leading to the Lois confusion), I could see them trying to make her Superman's Catwoman, so to speak.  A romantic interest and antagonist.

post #14 of 16

Maybe her inclusion is part of the sequel's set-up?

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That's the smart play. I have a feeling they want to go very big with these movies and please by all means Zack if you read this learn from Singer in this one simple way the plane disaster sequence was pure Superman and it was great the rest was shit.

 

Ground the characters and get the epic story but don't skimp on the villains and don't have Superman bench pressing everything and god help us stay away from Luthor in any huge way he's played out. Oh and Warner's set it all up for a big screen adaptation of Kingdom Come your welcome.

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Didn't we see something like this with Hancock? Two superbeings, one a blonde hottie, fighting amid a normal world?

 

I hope this turns out better than My Super Ex-Girlfriend, but how could it not?

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