MARION COTILLARD MIGHT PUT BATMAN’S TOP IN A SPIN

This movie is starting to sound like a major cluster fuck. And the main villain is Bane? Ugh.

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Originally Posted by E.T.C. 

This movie is starting to sound like a major cluster fuck. And the main villain is Bane? Ugh.

You don't think Nolan can juggle more than three characters? Did you see INCEPTION?!

I saw Inception.. and apparently I'm going to see it again in a year or so according to this cast.

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Originally Posted by TC Middletooth 

I saw Inception.. and apparently I'm going to see it again in a year or so according to this cast.

Ha! Nolan sure does like pulling from his own little company of players, doesn't he?

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Originally Posted by TC Middletooth 

I saw Inception.. and apparently I'm going to see it again in a year or so according to this cast.

If I go by this logic, I kept seeing the same Scorcese movie with Mean Streets, Raging Bull, Goodfellas, and Casino.

As long as they fit the role, I actually enjoy when directors find actors they like working with over and over again.

Nolan has managed to juggle many characters for both of his Batman movies very well. He knows who to develop and who not to. Without knowing the specifics of the plot it really doesn't make any sense to be all doom and gloom about the movie.

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Originally Posted by E.T.C. 

This movie is starting to sound like a major cluster fuck. And the main villain is Bane? Ugh.

You don't think Nolan can juggle more than three characters? Did you see INCEPTION?!

Three times now.  Apparently, I'm alone in thinking that an inbalance between boring characters and characters with more interesting arcs was its biggest weakness.  You have Fischer and Eames, and then you have Ellen Page's character and the compound mixer, who were both so imcompetently handled that I forgot about them shortly after leaving the theater.

Although he's done better in the Batman films, there are some characters and concepts that I thought weren't juggled particularly well after their initial introduction.  I know my view of Nolan isn't as enthusiastic as most, but I'm willing to see if he gets better with his characters in Rises, because Inception showed improvements in what I formerly regarded as his cold spots as a director.
 

As much as I wanted Eva Green (what? she oozes femme fatale) in this as either Selina or Talia... Cotillard will be a nice addition, if they work it out.

Seriously? Nolan goes from The Dark Knight to Inception and suddenly everyone is nervous about him? He suddenly can't handle a big cast? I'd love for someone to lay out the logic of such statements.

 This boring concern comes up everytime someone makes a superhero sequel.

Y'all are a bunch of doubting (Isiah?) Thomases. Nolan always delivers, whether it be Marion Cotillard playing Talia Al Ghul or Anna Faris playing Harley Quinn or whatever terrible idea people want to hypothesize about.

Though it would be fun to see Talia show up with kid in tow, wondering if he remembers EVERYTHING that happened in the mountains during Batman Begins...

I wonder if they could actually be adapting Knightfall in some respects. It's a story that features Catwoman heavily as a vigilante in Batman's absence, and Wayne does retreat to Asia (Where the film is apparently being shot). It seems more likely than PREY at this point.

Let the Damian Wayne fancasting begin.

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I wonder if they could actually be adapting Knightfall in some respects. It's a story that features Catwoman heavily as a vigilante in Batman's absence, and Wayne does retreat to Asia (Where the film is apparently being shot). It seems more likely than PREY at this point.

After re-reading PREY I feels like that's kind of the story line they are using, which leads me to think that this Bane talk is BS.

Hardy would make a great Max Cort but that has been talked to death on these boards already.

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If I go by this logic, I kept seeing the same Scorcese movie with Mean Streets, Raging Bull, Goodfellas, and Casino.

By George, I think you're right.

You can watch pretty much any Adam Sandler movie, and expect to see Rob Schneider, Kevin James, and the two gay guys from Big Daddy showing up, but it upsets everyone if Michael Caine is in another movie with three other people from Inception?

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Originally Posted by Leto II 

You can watch pretty much any Adam Sandler movie, and expect to see Rob Schneider, Kevin James, and the two gay guys from Big Daddy showing up, but it upsets everyone if Michael Caine is in another movie with three other people from Inception?

Keep in mind that the expection of any Adam Sandler movie is that it sucks godzilla balls.  

Not that I'm particularly worried about Nolan on this, but the balancing act required for the movie to be quantitatively *good* is a bit more delicate than anything Kevin James or Rob Schneider have been involved in.

But what if it also has Josh Mostel?

Ellen Page and Dileep Rao are sitting by their phones, praying for the call.

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Originally Posted by stelios 

Seriously? Nolan goes from The Dark Knight to Inception and suddenly everyone is nervous about him? He suddenly can't handle a big cast? I'd love for someone to lay out the logic of such statements.

Welcome to teh inaweb stel - have you been here before?

This is one of those cases of, "I don't know how the filmmaker's going to pull it off, so I automatically think the movie's doomed to fail!" Or basically every pre-release thread.

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Ellen Page and Dileep Rao are sitting by their phones, praying for the call.

I'd love to see Dileep Rao in the movie.  Love that guy.

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Ellen Page and Dileep Rao are sitting by their phones, praying for the call.

As are Lukas Haas and Tom Berenger!

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After re-reading PREY I feels like that's kind of the story line they are using, which leads me to think that this Bane talk is BS.

 

Hardy would make a great Max Cort but that has been talked to death on these boards already.

Many are thinking that Nolan might be melding Max Cort and Bane into one character.  Who knows though.  Either way, I trust Nolan.
 

Tom Berenger in this would be awesome. hah make him Deadshot no less. just slap a mustache on his Sniper character and your set.

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As are Lukas Haas and Tom Berenger!

Considering Berenger was already in Begins, he's not much of a stretch.

Was he? Do you mean Rutger Hauer?

Ooops! I'm not done with my second coffee of the day. Apologies.

Hauer, Eric Roberts, Berenger. Who will be rescued from the DTV scrapheap for this Nolan opus? Fingers crossed it's Michael Dudikoff.

This does introduce questions on how Selina Kyle will be handled - if Talia is indeed in this and the love interest, what happens to Catwoman/Kyle? Does she simply become an enemy, with none of the expected sexual tension/attraction between the two double identitied characters?

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Originally Posted by MichaelM with none of the expected sexual tension/attraction between the two double identitied characters?

It'll be there. Unless the character is de-clawed, so to speak.

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Originally Posted by MoonBaseNick 

After re-reading PREY I feels like that's kind of the story line they are using, which leads me to think that this Bane talk is BS.

 

 So you think the WB lied in their official press release? Pre-release news response is always a bit weird, but what is it about Batman news specifically that gets people thinking like this? By the by, since the Bane announcement and the ever possible inclusion of Talia, I've suspected that Bane is going to be a member of the League of Shadows (in the comics, he was briefly a member of the League of Assassins and had a thing for Talia), possibly patterned after and trained specifically for a confrontation with Batman by their new leader. Just an idea, but who the fuck knows.

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Originally Posted by Andrew Merriweather 

Hauer, Eric Roberts, Berenger. Who will be rescued from the DTV scrapheap for this Nolan opus? Fingers crossed it's Michael Dudikoff.

I'm betting another actor that Nolan likes who is roughly in the same age bracket.  Michael Ironside mabye?

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Originally Posted by JacknifeJohnny 

 So you think the WB lied in their official press release? Pre-release news response is always a bit weird, but what is it about Batman news specifically that gets people thinking like this? By the by, since the Bane announcement and the ever possible inclusion of Talia, I've suspected that Bane is going to be a member of the League of Shadows (in the comics, he was briefly a member of the League of Assassins and had a thing for Talia), possibly patterned after and trained specifically for a confrontation with Batman by their new leader. Just an idea, but who the fuck knows.

I'm banking on Bane being a member of the League of Shadows as well.  Alberto Falcone would likely be doing business with them like his father.  Best guess is that the League comes back to Gotham in another attempt to destroy it and instead of joining up, Catwoman allies her self with Batman instead.  The League of Shadows is the absolute easiest (and likeliest) way to tie all of the new characters together.

It'd also be cool if they had Talia speak of her father as though he might still be alive.  It would be away to continue the teases that were scattered throughout Begins ("Is he immortal?  Are his methods supernatural?") without directly referring to the Lazarus Chamber or actually showing Ra's alive.

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Originally Posted by S.D. Bob Plissken 

 

I'm betting another actor that Nolan likes who is roughly in the same age bracket.  Michael Ironside mabye?

 

It'd also be cool if they had Talia speak of her father as though he might still be alive.  It would be away to continue the teases that were scattered throughout Begins ("Is he immortal?  Are his methods supernatural?") without directly referring to the Lazarus Chamber or actually showing Ra's alive.

I think that would only confuse people seeing as how that original line was not intended to suggest that Ra's Al Ghul was actually immortal, but to indicate the legend built around the identity via decoys (like the Watanabe character), different men assuming the mantle over the centuries, etc., and as a bone to the fans. If things had gone the way Ra's wanted it to, Wayne probably would have eventually assumed the role.

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Originally Posted by JacknifeJohnny 

I think that would only confuse people seeing as how that original line was not intended to suggest that Ra's Al Ghul was actually immortal, but to indicate the legend built around the identity via decoys (like the Watanabe character), different men assuming the mantle over the centuries, etc., and as a bone to the fans. If things had gone the way Ra's wanted it to, Wayne probably would have eventually assumed the role.

I meant more in terms of her keeping the legend alive by referring to Ra's Al Ghul as being alive, be it her father or another who has taken the name...............with only Wayne knowing the truth.
 

I'd bet good money that she'll be introduced as "Talia Ducard." Going with something like "Talia Head" won't make a lick of sense to those not familiar with the comics -- which is 90% of the audience. Ducard was just a mask if you know the story, but for many, "Ducard" was the man, and "Ra's" was a more of a title.

"Talia al-Ghul," maybe, but calling her "Ducard" would streamline things for the non-fans.

Plus "Talia Head" is more than a tad porno-sounding.

I don't remember them ever translating Ra's Al Ghul in Batman Begins, so I doubt anyone would be thinking her name was "Talia Head" if they decide to have Al Ghul be her surname in TDKR.  That is something only fans would know.

I think they'll save 'Talia Head' for the This Isn't The Dark Knight Rises parody...