CBS News' Lara Logan Assaulted By Gang In Cairo

I just saw this on TV.  I cannot even put into words how sick I feel about this and how badly I feel for her.  Horrible.

Even during such a joyous occasion, it's shameful how fragile it is when a mob is involved.

Cowardly pieces of shit. I don't know, man. Even news of a single man attacking a woman make me want to get medieval. This has me foaming at the mouth. And what makes it worse is imagining how much of this stuff must have happened to other less visible women. Because I can damn well guarantee that it did.

Stuff like that go so against what I've been raised to believe a man should behave like. I hesitate calling these fuckers men. Fucking dogs.

And of course, there's no news story so horrific that can't be made worse by right-wing pundits.

http://alicublog.blogspot.com/ (top story there, at the moment)

An excerpt:

Debbie Schlussel: "Hey, sounds like the threats I get from American Muslims on a regular basis. Now you know what it’s like, Lara."

WHAT.

I just...wow. I guess she was similarly unsympathetic when Margaret Hassan got beheaded, right?

Goddamn evil.

Reading BULLSHIT from people saying that she somehow is to blame for her rape because she's pretty made me want to throw my computer across the room.  Unbelievable.

And stelios, it seriously makes me so happy and truly proud to read a man's outrage about rape.  I always hear about women mobilizing against this crime, but it's really nice to hear a man get pissed about this.  Wish more would.

Harley, I wouldn't hit a woman, so can you please go find Debbie Schlussel and knock the peroxide off her head. I'm getting angrier and angrier thinking about that shit.

I would hesitate to call her a woman, or a human, for that matter.  No real woman would mock another woman for being raped.  NEVER.  It's pretty much every woman's worst fear, and to blame the victim is not only wrong and irresponsible, but flat-out dangerous.  This is why women so rarely report rape, and this is why some men feel like they have the green light to pull this shit.  It's not treated with the seriousness that it deserves.

Whatever you do, don't read the comments at that crazy atlasshrugs website.

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Originally Posted by HarleyQuinn22 

I would hesitate to call her a woman, or a human, for that matter.  No real woman would mock another woman for being raped.  NEVER.  It's pretty much every woman's worst fear, and to blame the victim is not only wrong and irresponsible, but flat-out dangerous.  This is why women so rarely report rape, and this is why some men feel like they have the green light to pull this shit.  It's not treated with the seriousness that it deserves.

Violation is violation, but they keep stressing that she wasn't raped, but "sexually assaulted", i.e., no intercourse.  

Where?

Wonderful, another American right-wing pundit making me wish I believed in hell again...

Well, I just read early this morning that it was "not a rape." So says somebody 'familiar with the matter.'  Can't find the source, most news sites are blocked at work.  I guess it should be classified as 'Sexual Battery' rather then 'Sexual Assault'.  And I'm not trying to downplay the severity of the event, I guess I'm just trying to . . . fine some 'silver lining' . . .I don't even know.  It's sickening when the best thing you can say about this incident is,"Well, at least it wasn't rape." 

This is depressing.

Found it.  The NY Post says it was not a rape, but the attack lasted for 20-30 minutes.  Jesus.  The terms "sexual assault" and "rape" are pretty much interchangeable these days, which is why I assumed that it was indeed a rape.  We may never know if it was a rape or not, but a bunch of men attacking a woman in any way is fucking repugnant.

And this asshole...fuck you Nir Rosen.  Just saw him on Anderson Cooper trying to backpedal, even claiming that he had no clue that the assault was of a sexual nature.  BULL. SHIT.  He fucking linked to the CBS story on his Twitter where it clearly states that she was sexually assaulted, you piece of shit.

20-30 minutes... jesus, that's an eternity.

My 'silver lining' is the part that says she was saved by a group of women. I'm imagining a '70s exploitation pack with 45 mm handguns and baseball bats covered with nails.

Apparently, American politics has become so divided that pundits on both sides felt it was okay to make light of a sexual assault, simply because they perceived the victim as politically opposed to them. Fucking depressing.

Her injuries were so severe they kept her in the hospital for what, five days? That is fucking brutal. 

How great! On one hand, a bunch of fucking dogs. On the other a 'woman' using something horrible like that to gain points with her insane fucking fanbase. This story is making me feel warm all over. 

So, Schlussel's a huge evil piece of shit. What else is new? Moreover, who gives a fuck? Evil, stupid people say evil, stupid things that only reach a minority of slavering racist retards who buy the shit that they peddle. Ignore her.

In the meantime this is horrendous, and I hope Ms. Logan's recovery is swift.

Because ignoring vile, ignorant, racist assholes has worked wonders over the last two years. I think the "Just ignore them" stance took a pretty serious hit when the Republicans retook the House.

It's not just Schlussel. There are several other links to various pundits in that link I posted yesterday. It's frankly unbelievable. And ignoring these monsters is certainly not the answer. These are people who regularly go on news shows and whose opinions are given weight by the media. They need to be publicly exposed for the repugnant slime they are.

So let me ask a question. How many people do cretins and monsters such as Schlussel actually reach outside of their own dedicated base? They preach to the choir instead of turning out converts; it's not as though, for example, Schlussel fever is sweeping the nation like a virulent tide of racist and ignorant invective which renders its victims into mouth-foaming cave people. I'm more inclined to be concerned about people like Hannity, Beck, or Palin, who all have high-profile and established platforms from which they may dispense their bullshit with relative impunity, while the Debbies of the world are small potatoes.

Here's another question. What news shows do these fucks go on that actually connect them in a meaningful way to the mainstream? Speaking for myself, I keep myself well-informed with a number of paper and electronic news sources, yet if not for CHUD I would have never, ever heard of Schlussel. I'm sorry, but you can't be that well-known or visible if it takes a visit to the Political forums of one of the best movie sites on the web for me to discover you, and while Schlussel makes me absolutely sick to my stomach, she's a nearly invisible fish in a tiny, tiny pond. Hell with her. I have more important things to do with my time and more essential people to be concerned over than some dumb motherfuck on the fringe of the lunatic fringe's fringes.

So ignorant hatred should only be addressed if it's occuring in areas with mainstream exposure?

I'm saying that Schlussel and her lunatic comrades are basically talking to themselves. They're despicable, sure, but so pathetic and so hopelessly out there in the aether that it's not worth addressing them and giving them the reaction that they crave. 

Well, NOT ignoring this NYU law professor caused him to resign his position at the university after his tweets went public: http://nyunews.com/2011/02/17/17rosen/ 

I do want to add that I understand where you're coming from, agracru, it's just that I'm finding it harder and harder to pretend these people don't have an impact on our discourse.

Atlas Shrugged also played a MAJOR role in the flap over the "Ground Zero Mosque", if I'm not mistaken. (Can't remember if it was Schlussel in particular...) A lot of other conservatives let it get by without comment, but she kicked up a huge fuss, and it got mainstreamed.

This is the problem--the crazy fringe nuts have access to the larger Republican base. So while there are plenty of conservatives who, left to themselves, probably wouldn't care about homosexual marriage or decry every second government program as socialism or see Muslim conspiracies around every rock, the sense of lockstep solidarity the Republicans have been pushing for years means that they all leap on the crazy bandwagon if there's political ground to be gained. The attitude seems to be "My party, right or wrong."

So yeah, the only way to help by ignoring fringe nuts is to be a Republican yourself. The party needs to go through a major internal shake-up.

Of course, whenever hateful bilesacks like Schlussel push things too far--and I'd argue she has in this case--she'll be backed away from as someone who doesn't represent the Republicans, or the Tea Party, or the right in general. This is why not having any actual principles as a party becomes really useful.

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Originally Posted by agracru 

So let me ask a question. How many people do cretins and monsters such as Schlussel actually reach outside of their own dedicated base? They preach to the choir instead of turning out converts; it's not as though, for example, Schlussel fever is sweeping the nation like a virulent tide of racist and ignorant invective which renders its victims into mouth-foaming cave people. I'm more inclined to be concerned about people like Hannity, Beck, or Palin, who all have high-profile and established platforms from which they may dispense their bullshit with relative impunity, while the Debbies of the world are small potatoes.

 

Here's another question. What news shows do these fucks go on that actually connect them in a meaningful way to the mainstream? Speaking for myself, I keep myself well-informed with a number of paper and electronic news sources, yet if not for CHUD I would have never, ever heard of Schlussel. I'm sorry, but you can't be that well-known or visible if it takes a visit to the Political forums of one of the best movie sites on the web for me to discover you, and while Schlussel makes me absolutely sick to my stomach, she's a nearly invisible fish in a tiny, tiny pond. Hell with her. I have more important things to do with my time and more essential people to be concerned over than some dumb motherfuck on the fringe of the lunatic fringe's fringes.

I agree with others that have already said how racist fucktards like Schlussel are actually reaching the more mainstream Republicans but my concern is more so how legitimate mainstream news sources, such as CNN, are continuing to hire more and more "rational" or "mainstream" Republicans as pundits for their shows. They are all racing to try and get Fox News ratings that they'll put on these "rational" Republicans--who when you look at their writings/speeches they tend to reference these same crazy, racist fucktards--thinking that's what will attract viewers. And anyone with the slightest bit of common sense would realize that the reason Fox News has such a dedicated/loyal viewership is because the majority of Republicans/Conservatives tend to be stick to the same things on the whole and not want to try anything different (re: new, foreign, etc.). That's why they're called Conservatives and not Liberals.

Sorry for the rant but this shit has been under my skin for a little while now and I just find all of this shit fucking ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by Jacob Singer 

Well, NOT ignoring this NYU law professor caused him to resign his position at the university after his tweets went public: http://nyunews.com/2011/02/17/17rosen/ 

Ahahahahaha, what an asshole. Seriously? "I never meant to hurt anyone"? Give me a break, and good riddance.

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Originally Posted by Jacob Singer 

I do want to add that I understand where you're coming from, agracru, it's just that I'm finding it harder and harder to pretend these people don't have an impact on our discourse.

Oh, no problem, Jacob, and truth to tell I totally understand your side too. It's extremely difficult to not respond to some of the vile shit that the Schlussels of the world come up with.