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post #1 of 33
3/9/11 at 9:45am
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by Renn Brown: link

The gory, depressing details emerge and it seems GDT is as confused as the rest of us.
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post #2 of 33
3/9/11 at 12:01pm

Nothing?

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post #3 of 33
3/9/11 at 12:04pm

Renn, I believe we'd rather speculate about how Universal is/isn't screwing GDT than to actually let a pesky little thing like 'what GDT thinks about the situation' to get in the way of some good internet nerdrage.

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post #4 of 33
3/9/11 at 12:34pm

I wonder how long it'll be before GDT can REALLY speak his heart out about this whole thing.  I want to hear it with his usual colorful mastery of the word FUCK.

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post #5 of 33
3/9/11 at 12:49pm
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Originally Posted by Renn Brown View Post

Nothing?



I think it's just that there's 2-3 separate threads essentially about the same thing that everyone has raged in so far.

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post #6 of 33
3/9/11 at 2:13pm

This tells you a lot about the state of the industry today and the greatly diminished pull of the lead. I don't want to get into the gossipy crap, but really, one has to wonder just how much of a liability or boon Tom Cruise was seen as being on this picture.

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post #7 of 33
3/9/11 at 2:40pm

It's so awesome that, on one day, At The Mountains of Madness dies, and on the next, news about a fucking VOLTRON movie surfaces.

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post #8 of 33
3/9/11 at 3:25pm

Can someone explain to me why this needed to be rated R? The novella seems to be more about atmosphere and monsters than gore and violence (I have not read it).

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post #9 of 33
3/9/11 at 4:07pm

Alex, just read the interview.

 

I admire del Toro for acting like a man in that interview.  He expresses his disappointment about the situation like a grown-up.  What he doesn't do is rant with endless whining and snark like Kevin Smith or Michael Bay would have.

 

Very disappointing news, but not entirely unexpected by me.  Of course, I want Universal to be bold and brave with their money on projects like this.  But I understand why they passed.  It's a very risky move from a strict business perspective.  I'd easily bet a ton of money that del Toro's film would be good.  But I would run from any bet that it would be a box office smash.

 

There's always tomorrow, everyone.  Keep faith.  That fat bastard has a whole lot of heart.  He's not done trying to get this flick made, not by half.

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post #10 of 33
3/9/11 at 5:28pm
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Originally Posted by Doc Phibes View Post
  I'd easily bet a ton of money that del Toro's film would be good.  But I would run from any bet that it would be a box office smash.

 

 


While risky, it certainly has potential to be a box office smash. With the right combination of circumstances and marketing, people could turn out in droves. 

 

I get why they won't, but it's still a shame they won't hang their nuts out one more time for this. 

 

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post #11 of 33
3/9/11 at 8:28pm

Great interview with Del Toro. I am depressed he doesn't get to make his dream project. But, I am excited we are getting a Giant Monster film from him.

 

This business though sometimes looks way too much at the bottom line. Guess in a lot of ways this shows why he has so much lined up. Never know what is going to get halted and what is going to get the green light.

 

Ugh, this whole things keeps taking me in different directions.

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post #12 of 33
3/10/11 at 7:46am
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Originally Posted by Casey Moore View Post

 

This business though sometimes looks way too much at the bottom line.


This is an interesting assertion. The studios exist to make a profit. Making art is a secondary, at best, goal. It's been this way since the beginning; motion pictures exploded because there were (and are) gobs of money to be made from. The studios invest money with the idea of turning that investment into revenue/profit; using one dollar to make three. Not to say no one with clout hasn't ever cared about telling a good story or trying something different; the history of cinema shows us that this simply isn't true.

 

But I don't think the problem is that studios look "too much" at the bottom line. I think the problem is their business model, including ridiculous paydays for stars (granted, this isn't as true as it was 10-15 years ago, as Willis, Carrey, Roberts, et al, stars have waned and we don't have a true replacement set of stars taking over) and fat productions over lean, imaginative ones. I wish the studios would be willing to consider some big paradigm shifts instead of clinging stubbornly to the "must release in multiplex, must have HUGE opening weekend" mindset. That's far more destructive to the creation of more artistically worthy films than simply not wanting to take a bath on a risky project.
 

 

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post #13 of 33
3/10/11 at 10:31am

I find it very odd that if Cameron was as inspired and dedicated to this as he made it sound in the beginning that this is not moving forward simply based on his reputation alone.  Didn't he come along on this project to make sure something like this didn't happen? 

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post #14 of 33
3/10/11 at 12:20pm

Yeah, Universal, a 175 million dollar reboot of fucking Doom is a much safer bet. Jesus, let the studio burn to the ground.

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post #15 of 33
3/10/11 at 1:36pm
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Originally Posted by Park Chan-wookie View Post

Yeah, Universal, a 175 million dollar reboot of fucking Doom is a much safer bet. Jesus, let the studio burn to the ground.



Wait, what?!

 

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post #16 of 33
3/10/11 at 1:49pm
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Wait, what?!

 


I'll second that, "what?"

 

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post #17 of 33
3/10/11 at 1:53pm

I googled it, and it seems to be a rumor that's gaining a lot of traction.  To take advantage of the '3D craze' it seems...  Ugh.  Haven't found any confirmation of the $175 million budget that Wookie mentioned.

 

But whatever the budget... please... this system needs to suffer a massive meltdown.

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post #18 of 33
3/10/11 at 2:00pm

DAMMIT. Shitty news for sure.

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post #19 of 33
3/10/11 at 2:22pm
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Originally Posted by mcnooj82 View Post

Haven't found any confirmation of the $175 million budget that Wookie mentioned.



Weep for the soul of Hollywood

 

Edit: The link to the story seems to not be working for me, so it is possible that they may have taken down the story. Filmschoolrejects.com is usually pretty solid on reporting the facts, but I guess not this time, or my computer's wonked out.

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post #20 of 33
3/10/11 at 2:27pm

I long for it to be crushed!  Thanks for the link.

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post #21 of 33
3/10/11 at 2:45pm

I'm suprised they can't take this to FOX where it seems Cameron has a lot more muscle, especially in light of Avatar. I of course don't know anything about the legality/possibility of this, but oh well.

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post #22 of 33
3/10/11 at 11:18pm

I think Universal fronted a fair amount of money already, so there'll be a lot of wrangling over percentages and shit before they can start actively shopping to other studios.

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post #23 of 33
3/11/11 at 12:36am

I'll just be over here, in the corner,  silently weeping for what might have been

 

 

Damn you Universal.

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post #24 of 33
3/11/11 at 6:58am

If this Doom shit turns out to be accurate, then it's time to get the pitchforks and torches.

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post #25 of 33
3/11/11 at 7:50am
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Originally Posted by joeypants View Post

If this Doom shit turns out to be accurate, then it's time to get the pitchforks and torches.



Despite understanding Universal's decision re: ATMOM, I gotta agree with this. Fucking DOOM? Really? The rights to HEXXEN weren't available?

 

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post #26 of 33
3/11/11 at 7:53am

PG-13 DOOM though, probably. That's the stumbling block, right?

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post #27 of 33
3/11/11 at 8:41am
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Originally Posted by Andrew Merriweather View Post

PG-13 DOOM though, probably. That's the stumbling block, right?



Part of it. But I still don't get THIS. I mean, PG-13 or no, who gives a shit about Doom? I could be wrong, but it seems like the only thing worse gambling on a property no one's heard of (ATMOM/Lovecraft) is gambling on a video game property everyone HAS heard of and already declared they firmly don't give a shit about (in movie form, anyway).

 

Maybe they're banking on the currently in development Doom game to be a tremendous hit?

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post #28 of 33
3/11/11 at 8:49am

Who gives a shit about BATTLESHIP? Or OUIJA? Or STRETCH GODDAMN ARMSTRONG?

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post #29 of 33
3/11/11 at 9:33am

Everyone has so many ANGLES happening here, I've only JUST realised how many HOUNDS of TINDALOS I'm now required to walk...

 

...bagging THAT shit AIN'T pretty...

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post #30 of 33
8/22/11 at 6:14pm

To add further salt to the wound, a recent interview with Stuart Gordon at AICN revealed that Guillermo was thinking of casting Jeffrey Combs in Mountains.  frown.gif

 

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/50916

 

Fingers crossed that Pacific Rim is a hit. Mountains needs to happen!

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post #31 of 33
8/23/11 at 1:12pm
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Originally Posted by Park Chan-wookie View Post

Yeah, Universal, a 175 million dollar reboot of fucking Doom is a much safer bet. 



I third the "what?!?!?", and I'll go further with jubilant agreement!!!

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post #32 of 33
8/23/11 at 9:05pm
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Originally Posted by JPL View Post

To add further salt to the wound, a recent interview with Stuart Gordon at AICN revealed that Guillermo was thinking of casting Jeffrey Combs in Mountains.  frown.gif

 

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/50916


Sonovabitch :(

 

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post #33 of 33
8/24/11 at 9:21am

Yeah, that does blow goats for nickels. I'm sad for that.

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