DAVID SLADE TO BRING BACK THE MAN WITH NO FEAR

<pedant> Man WITHOUT Fear</pedant>

Not rebooting seems crazy, since the most obvious storyline (Miller's "Born Again") doesn't work if Murdock is aware of the Kingpin's knowledge of his identity.

But then rebooting seems crazy, too, so whatever. Do "Underboss." Or something with Typhoid Mary (I presume Black Widow is unavailable).

Oh, Mr. Slade, remember when people were kind of into you after Hardy Candy (which is finely acted and competently directed, but not great) and expected interesting things? Yeah, I can barely recall it myself...seems like ages ago. 

I'll forego the UN greenlight and jump right into a pre-emptive yawn.

I am all for a new...Daredevil!  I just hope Fox makes a good DD film this time!

A David Slade 20th Century Fox superhero picture?!

Jesus.

I changed the headline. I don't know what it is about a tired brain, but I write everything in the most lousy English possible. My mind thinks "Man without fear", my fingers think "Man with no fear" sounds far more educated, and thus I look like I've never read a Daredevil comic in my life. 

Sorry about that. I have the original hardcover of "Elektra Lives Again" if that can regain my pedantic cred.

Jesus Graham Cracker Christ, that's perfect. I'm serious.

Can we get Patrick Wilson as Daredevil?

Cameron Hughes, Patrick Wilson would be...Perfect casting for Daredevil!

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Jesus Graham Cracker Christ, that's perfect. I'm serious.

 

 

I've had a perverse desire for Ben Affleck to direct a new Daredevil movie. I think he'd knock it out of the park.

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Oh, Mr. Slade, remember when people were kind of into you after Hardy Candy (which is finely acted and competently directed, but not great) and expected interesting things? Yeah, I can barely recall it myself...seems like ages ago. 

 

I'll forego the UN greenlight and jump right into a pre-emptive yawn.

I know right? Gods, talk about misplaced hopes.

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I've had a perverse desire for Ben Affleck to direct a new Daredevil movie. I think he'd knock it out of the park.

You're right & it ain't perverse at all. Affleck's got urban crime & action chops like a mofo.

Patrick Wilson might've been a good MM 10 years ago but I gotta vote Matthew Goode for DD.

Keanu wouldn't be a bad choice either.

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But then rebooting seems crazy, too, so whatever. Do "Underboss." Or something with Typhoid Mary (I presume Black Widow is unavailable).

Since Typhoid Mary was in ELEKTRA, I'm assuming they won't be using her, especially considering the whole "direct sequel" thing. Though The Hand would be neat.

Not that I think a David Slade superhero film would be interesting, but I heard someone suggest Scoot McNairy from MONSTERS as a new Matt Murdock, and I find it hard to get that idea out of my head.
 

Matthew Fox as Daredevil!  He's already had Racer X-perience wearing a mask and leather tights!

I think a re-introduction film like "Incredible Hulk" is a great idea, followed by adapting whole bendis/brubaker run in a condensed trilogy format; you'd be able to have villains for each film (The Mr Fear arc would make for a fantastic movie, and so would the Yakuza confrontation), a good recurring love interest in Milla Donovan, and hell, the whole idea of a street level vigilante hero being outed by the media and the repercussions that follow would be a great concept to see onscreen.

However, it would need to be a brutal, hardcore film.

Ellen Page as Karen Page. Plus I think even though he's not really tall, but Michael Chiklis would make a great Kingpin. He's got style, and intensity. He doesn't need to be a giant. Just intimidating, and he's got that down good.

Typhoid Mary should definitely be in the movie. Get Asia Argento to play her. Or Michelle Rodriguez.

In my mind, Ben Foster would make a great Bullseye; just put him in "3:10 to Yuma" mode and you're set.

Chiklis would make a great Kingpin, as Eko said above, he would nail the threatening and imposing aspects of the character.

And if we're going crazy with fancasting, i think Dwayne Johnson could be a fantastic Gladiator.

Rene (Mr.Eko), Chiklis, Would be...fine, but for my money...

Daredevil/Matt Murdock- Patrick Wilson (great Idea...Cameron Hughes!)

Foggy Nelson-John C Reilly

Elektra-Mila Kunis

Kingpin/Wilson Fisk-Steve Austin

Kirigi/Hand Ninja-Wu Jing

Dibs on Patton Oswalt as Foggy Nelson.

For Kingpin, the first image that came to mind was Hoskins in The Long Good Friday.

Fuck size, if Chiklis could channel that kind of intensity, it'd be fucking gold.

If they really wanted to be accurate with the size of Kingpin, it's not as if they couldn't do what they did for Robbie Coltrane in the Potter movies.

Please let this flop so studios can get the idea that you can't shovel every second string superhero into his own feature film once, let alone twice in such a short time.

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Please let this flop so studios can get the idea that you can't shovel every second string superhero into his own feature film once, let alone twice in such a short time.

Daredevil's a great character.

I'd like to third the idea of Ben Affleck directing a Daredevil reboot. I don't see why Colin Ferrall still can't be Bullseye.

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I changed the headline. I don't know what it is about a tired brain, but I write everything in the most lousy English possible. My mind thinks "Man without fear", my fingers think "Man with no fear" sounds far more educated, and thus I look like I've never read a Daredevil comic in my life. 

 

Sorry about that. I have the original hardcover of "Elektra Lives Again" if that can regain my pedantic cred.

Eh, comic-book cred is pretty cheap currency hereabouts; I shouldn't give it a thought, were I you. I just knew someone would make the correction.

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Daredevil's a great character.

So how many middling, license-reviving reboot attempts do you think he deserves then Mr.Hughes?

Who Fox will never do justice to.

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Daredevil's a great character.

Who Fox will never do justice to. It would take someone who really loves the character and can do something interesting with him on screen. My choice was always Guy Pearce but they went Bennifer. I think the film isn't as bad as some say it is but its not that good either and the soundtrack totally does the film an injustice.
 

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I remember during the last scene of final episode of The Shield, when a bunch of us were live posting as the episode went, and Chiklis appeared int hat suit, I posted that he looked like The Kingpin, and he should get the gig. That and it would be great to see him playing an evil bastard again.

Shit, have a reunion and get Walton Goggins in as Bullseye!

I remember they had John Rhys Davies as The Kingpin in The Trial Of The Incredible Hulk, and he had a beard and hair, and he fit the mold pretty good back then.

Paul Sorvino as Kingpin.

Or, alternatively, make something else.

Mackey-level Chiklis would KILL as kingpin.

Chiklis as The Kingpin and Goggins as Bullseye would be fantastic!  As for Daredevil, they will probably go with an unknown or lesser known actor.  Slade's involvement doesn't bother me.  He is competent enough.  All I care about is the screenplay and how much (or how little) Tom Rothman & Co. will mess around with the production.  After the disappointments of X3 and Wolverine, they seem to be a lot more hands off with the X-Men franchise now.  Let's hope things go the same way for this and the already announced Fantastic Four reboot.

And for the record, I suspect this will be about as much a sequel to the first one as The Incredible Hulk is to the Ang Lee film.

I doubt Fox would cast Chiklis in this if he's already been dropped as Ben Grimm.

Is anyone else tired of all the energy and time and money being expended on this neverending treadmill of superhero regurgitations? By the time all this is said and done, five of the superhero franchises from the last decade will have been restarted - six if you count X-MEN: FIRST CLASS.

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Is anyone else tired of all the energy and time and money being expended on this neverending treadmill of superhero regurgitations?

In general, yes, but I'm ok with rebooting something that sucked as badly as Daredevil. At least give people a real taste of what makes the character special - that includes me, since I'm not all that familiar with the comics.

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In general, yes, but I'm ok with rebooting something that sucked as badly as Daredevil. At least give people a real taste of what makes the character special - that includes me, since I'm not all that familiar with the comics.

 

I agree about being okay with a reboot in this case. It reminds me of something I think Soderbergh said once, about how remaking a classic like Psycho made little sense to him, but remaking an enjoyable but flawed movie like Ocean's 11 was completely different. (Not that I find Daredevil enjoyable, of course.)

I'd be all up for another DAREDEVIL movie in another ten years, when it doesn't feel like an irritating attempt to redo something as part of the ongoing superhero craze. I dunno - the constant rehashing of barely-cold franchises is just depressing to me

Hard Candy was a terribly misguided, passably acted and ultimately forgettable film, overpraised in some circles for its "edgy concept", 30 Days of Night was good but not great, and Eclipse was...well, the third Twilight movie, with only hints of energy behind the camera that did not make me think that it was a David Slade movie so much as it was a studio-approved David Slade movie ( the final confrontation in the woods played out like Slade was simply interested in just moving the camera around).  It was 30 Days of Night without actually being nearly as interesting as some portions of 30 Days.  His involvement in Daredevil does nothing to pique my interest.

Draco Senior has spoken!

Admittedly, if they let Slade have his way more often than not, I could see him doing decently with the atmosphere of Daredevil, but I don't see anything that he could possibly bring to the table that isn't done more interestingly and consistently by a whole host of other directors.  Daredevil itself is hardly a name comic property that audiences will have an immediate recognition with, so they're probably going to have to make some creative concessions right off the bat to hit the right demographic accessibility. 

Honestly, after Eclipse, I'm not sure Slade has the creative juices to contend with that, and I'm similarly unsure that Twilight brought him any serious name recognition because it's the sort of property that overpowers the directors behind it.  Certainly he's in the good graces of Summit, so they will have his back just like they do with the future projects of Hardwicke and Chris-who-directed-New Moon-again?, but he's not a player even in that particular case.  The projects that he's been tentatively attached to strike me as his admission that he's going to have to direct a certain way for the foreseeable future.

It sucks that I agree with both Rene and Andrew with Chiklis being Kingpin.

But goddamn, he is the best choice for the character. But I really do understand not wanting repeatition despite Ben Grimm and Wilson Fisk being very different kinds of characters.

Wrong wrassler... Jesse "the Sexual Tyrrannosaurus" Ventura!

DARKMITE8, I thought...Steve Austin was a great villain in...The Expendables, and would...Love to see him as, Kingpin!

yea, I saw both the Theatrical version (horrible) and the Directors cut (vast improvement)

still has the worst of both, but adding in the Coolio lawyer storyline, plus editing a lot of the bullseye stuff (if my memory serves) made it a much better film.

still not the best it could have done, but good for what it was

Directors cut is better and would have been a lot better had they took out that terrible music.

Its got massive problems in the DC or theatrical. Mark Steven Johnson really messed up with that movie.

Oh, Johnny!  Wake me up inside!  ... I can't wake up...

Yeah, the music in Daredevil really bugged me.  And yet, I still enjoyed a lot of aspects of the theatrical cut.  I think I was just really defensive about Affleck at the time.  I liked him as Murdock.  Farrell was a lot of fun as Bullseye, as was MCD as The Kingpin.

Keep in mind, I've never followed the character in the comics.  But for some reason, I had an opinion of how Daredevil should move.  He's basically like a ninja, right?  Yet in MSJohnson's movie, the character moves as if he weighs a ton even as he leaps from rooftops.

DAREDEVIL's problems weren't Affleck-related. He was good in the role - better than the script, certainly. But I agree with Daywalker. Both cuts have massive problems. I was a defender of the film for a while, but let a few years lapse between viewings. Last time I watched it, I couldn't ignore the suckitude anymore. I no longer own the film.

I saw DAREDEVIL in the theatre and really dug it, even bought it on DVD. Then I watched it again last year. I must have had an undiagnosed tumour that spontaneously cured itself that year or something.

I do like Affleck and Favreau's double act, so there's that.

Well Supermax dosen't seem to be happeing anytime soon. I would like to David Slade to do the storyline where DareDevil goes to jail along with Bullseye and Kingpin