ZACK SNYDER ISN’T MIMICKING RICHARD DONNER - Page 2

I think the fatigue has less to do with an origin being presented than it does with the entire first film of franchises being dedicated to this before they "get to the good stuff."

I understand that to some degree, but for me, a good story is a good story is a good story. And as long as (another) origin is done well (and hopefully a little differently), I'll probably enjoy it. Now Spiderman on the other hand... that I don't get.

I know someone intimately close to that one and they even said they don't get why they're rebooting the origin as it's not all that different from the Raimi films*. Aside from him having parents of course. So I guess maybe that fact necessitates going over it yet again to establish that it's not just Aunt May and Uncle Ben.

*I know it was only a leaked audition tape, but the scene from that where he fights the high-school bully was barely different from Raimi's version.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JacknifeJohnny 

Though I understand apprehension about revisiting the origin of a character most are well acquainted with, the idea that's out there among some of you guys that origin stories should be done away with full stop, strikes me as kind of ridiculous. A lot of characters from the Golden Age didn't really have origins, or if they did, they were just sort of sketched in (Krypton was damn near an afterthought up until the 50's) , but virtually all of the survivors of that era, the strongest characters, have origins that provide motivation along with explanation.

 

If the thought is that it's all tired, Campbellian regurgitation, I get that, but that's more to do with repetitive structure than anything intrinsically offensive about understanding where a character comes from and what makes them tick.

Yeah, I just revisited BATMAN BEGINS on blu, and I'd argue that the first half and emphasis on Bruce's journey to the cape and cowl is a refreshing spin on the character (yes, some scoff at the specific details). It (like in everything) is all in the execution.

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeypants 

I think the fatigue has less to do with an origin being presented than it does with the entire first film of franchises being dedicated to this before they "get to the good stuff."

Some might argue that the 1st half of BATMAN BEGINS is the "good stuff".

Quote:

Originally Posted by DARKMITE8 

Some might argue that the 1st half of BATMAN BEGINS is the "good stuff".

 

 

I would definitely argue that. There's some awkwardness in that first hour, that first fight scene is all kinds of fucked up and a harbinger of things to come in terms of Nolan's action choreography, some of the performances (Linus Roache in particular) are off-key, and I didn't really care when Bruce's parents got blown away, but it really draws you in and rebuilds the character quite nicely. Then the second half kicks in, and Nolan's confidence in telling a story about a guy in a bat costume, the story he spent an hour building to and justifying, doesn't seem very high.