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post #1 of 44
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by Jason Pollock: link

She didn't need to tie Jason up to make him tell the truth.
post #2 of 44

Jason Pollock, I cannot wait to see if this new...Wonder Woman, is as...Wonderful, as Lynda Carter's, or if it will be as bad a remake as Cathy Lee Crosby's Wonder Woman.  The Costume is great, even though she has long pants instead of some variation of her traditional costume of underwear/bathing suit with Stars.  Thank God, she did not get an all black costume!

post #3 of 44

Wonder Woman shops at buycostumes.com. Great. They gave her pants, which is really the wrong thing. It's more practical for the actress I guess, but the Alex Ross loincloth "Kingdom Come" look or shorts would have been more appropriate. The very worst thing is the material they used, the latex look makes the whole thing look cheap and plasticky, which is what it is. Oh, and I hate the anemic-looking tiara. Fuck this show.

post #4 of 44

Fucking awful. Its a Halloween costume. The leather armor skirt ensemble is the only way to go for WW.

WW is a bad ass greek goddess not a 2-bit floozy!

post #5 of 44

JKJ said exactly what I thought when I saw the pic: it looks like the standard slutty Halloween costume available these days. Or a WW from a latex fetish shop. Looks really awful, and Palicki looks particularly (and unappealingly) vacant in that image.

post #6 of 44

Hopefully it reads better on camera than it does in this photoshoot where the lighting seems very harsh and the whole thing comes off too shiny and costumey.   I don't mind the pants - they're much more practical - but blue pants and blue boots is a little much.  Still don't have much hope for the show since this version's set up just sounds ridiculous, even for a comic book character.

post #7 of 44
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Fucking awful. Its a Halloween costume. The leather armor skirt ensemble is the only way to go for WW.

WW is a bad ass greek goddess not a 2-bit floozy!


Sums my thoughts up.  She's quite skinny, too.  Similar to Keira Knightley in every damn thing she does, I can't buy a twig beating anyone's ass.  Get some muscle tone up in here!

post #8 of 44

Things would be so good if the costume, underwhelming as it is, was even close to being this show's big problem.

 

That said, come on. Greek armor actually came with a mini skirt, for fuck's sake! It really doesn't take much to crack the design. 

post #9 of 44

Man, how about another vote to Peregrym? Loved "Stick It." After all... it's not called gym-NICE-tics.

post #10 of 44

At least the invisible plane looks right.

post #11 of 44

I'm supposing "sexy mustard" and "sexy Abe Lincoln" were sold out?

post #12 of 44

I get why they did it, she has chicken legs.

 

I'll give the show a shot if it makes it to season 3.

post #13 of 44
Bright red lipstick. Big fake cans. Aspiring actress skinniness. No shoulders to speak of.

She would definitely be the #1 seed at a Halloween party on campus for all the boys.
post #14 of 44

I think Beaks said it best: "Has a publicity photo ever gotten a show cancelled?" Who the hell approved this? Studio? Showrunner? This is just further proof to me David E. Kelly doesn't need to be doing this show.

post #15 of 44

The actual design really isn't that bad, it's just that everything seems to be made of the cheapest, shiniest plastic they could find.

post #16 of 44

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=re9-r0cNWD4#t=2m25s

 

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-02-02/wonder-woman-a-sneak-peak-at-david-e-kelleys-script/

 

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Pages 29-31: Themyscira Industries employs an in-house evidence team known as “The Animals” who work in an area called “The Dungeon.” The twentysomethings here—including Austy, Jennie, and Ryan—dance around to Kanye West’s “Golddigger” when they’re not making sexually provocative comments toward their employer. A comment about boning up on Diana’s rival Veronica Cale results in Austy making a comment about how he’d “Bone you up right now, boss.” (A page later, he admits to having “Chlamydia” when asked if the group has “anything else.”)

But the worst has got to be the way Diana addresses the group, saying, “OK, class, we got ‘bidness.’” Just ick. Wonder Woman as a woman trying to understand “man’s world” from her vantage point as an outsider is one thing, but the way that Kelley is painting her, alternately vain, self-absorbed, weepy, and so desperately trying to be cool is a major turn-off on every page. Let’s not forget that she is one of the world’s pre-eminent superheroes, not a middle-aged white man out of touch with pop culture. The only thing missing from this cringe-worthy portrait is for her to break into a freestyle rap.

 

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Pages 61-66: Diana and Myndi have a “sleepover,” complete with ice cream (“It’s been a three-scoop day”) as they watch Katy Perry’s sexually suggestive Wonder Woman homage music video and “scream like schoolgirls.” Later, Diana glimpses her original costume in the closet (the Lynda Carter one!) and sadly stares at a picture of herself and Steve in happier times, before crying herself to sleep.

 

post #17 of 44

Disastrous.

post #18 of 44

If...Wonder Woman is closer in spirit to, Lois and Clark The New Adventures of Superman that would be fine!  If they want to make Diana more...Girly, that would be ok as well.  The...Perfect Wonder Woman, Lynda Carter, already led the...Best interpretation of the character, The New Adventures Of Wonder Woman!  WW vs Nazis in WW2 was just...Awesome!  I think her costume with a few changes from the classic costume is still...WONDERful!

post #19 of 44

Holy shit. If that Daily Beast script review is accurate...that this show has even made it this far is jaw-dropping. I'm going to make the bet that this goes no farther than shooting the pilot.

post #20 of 44

I'm fine with the costume until we get to the rubber pants.

post #21 of 44

For fucks sake make this never come to light.

post #22 of 44

I'll give them points for not straying too far from the original design, but yeah, this thing is mess. Besides what everyone else has mentioned (plasticky, strange color, halloween costumish) why give her a "secret identity" when... nevermind.

post #23 of 44

I've said this before, but I don't much mind an adaptation of most any other geek property or superhero thing sucking because most of the major characters have had their day and been used well (or I simply don't care for them), but Wonder Woman is different. I have a big soft spot for her, she's a great character, and I know that there are so many wonderful and creative things you can do with her that just aren't being done. For me, it absolutely blows that this shit is going to be her first step out of the pop culture blindspot in over 30 years. Real shame.

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Holy shit. If that Daily Beast script review is accurate...that this show has even made it this far is jaw-dropping. I'm going to make the bet that this goes no farther than shooting the pilot.


Keep in mind: This is NBC we're talking about. They would pick up a dancing chicken in Batman's cowl if it was serialized.
post #25 of 44

Bleeding Cool has a bunch of photoshop 'fixes' for the costume, including one by Ty Templeton that puts her back in shorts. And it looks aaaaaawful. This costume looks terrible, but going the bathing suit route would have been worse. This just convinces me it's just terrible no matter what.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/03/19/fixing-the-wonder-woman-costume/

post #26 of 44

It's not just the design, it's the material.  And just photoshopping colors won't fix that.

 

On the other hand, if this is just an attempt to make people miss The Cape...mission accomplished.

post #27 of 44

Neolong is dead right in regard to the material.  If you really want to nitpick, just about every superhero costume design that we've ever seen looks like it could fit right in at your local S&M shop, but the material on this one seriously looks like the rubbery material used to make erotic get-ups.

post #28 of 44

The lasso alone appears to be made of Walmart brand Christmas tinsel.

post #29 of 44

So this is a shot from the Porn spoof Wonder Woman right?

post #30 of 44

I just don't get how Wonder Woman is still one of DC's 'big three'.  I mean, a Green Lantern, Flash or Green Arrow TV would get a much wider audience and probably be a lot better.  I actually kinda like the costume, but DC haven't given a monkeys about WW for years, which makes this TV irrelevant.

post #31 of 44

People are talking about it, so it's not irrelevant. Wonder Woman is still one of the big three because she is, to this day, the most iconic and widely known superheroine in comics. It's not that DC doesn't care about her, they just don't know how to make her work.

post #32 of 44

OK, I agree that she is the most widely know heroine, but surely that means that she deserves better than the limbo DC have put her in?  They won't sort her out but they won't relegate her like that have with a lot of heroes.

post #33 of 44

Yes, she deserves better. The main problem, I believe, is that the gender and sexual politics inherent in the character terrifies writers for a number of reasons, so she's often written as "inoffensively" as possible, and often comes off as stale and boring as a result. I'm not going to fanwank, but I will confess that I would love to be a writer on the comics, and the first thing I'd do is completely replace her entire rogues gallery with brand new, strongly designed, and clearly motivated villains specifically designed to compliment her and to create a dynamic riffing on the aforementioned gender and sexual politics inherent in the character.

 

Every great superhero has at least two or three villains that are a reflection of the hero (Batman's rogues gallery is made up of almost nothing but that), that is what I would start with. Give her that, and I believe the character will open up.

 

 

post #34 of 44

JacknifeJohnny, The problem is that, Wonder Woman has all kinds of villainy she could oppose.  In the Dtv, she fights...Ares God Of War.  If Marvel's THOR, can fight EEEEEEEEvil Norse Gods, why WW doesn't have a...Legion of EEEEEvil Gods, Greek, Norse etc, to fight.  Does every superhero have to fight metahumans?  I am very biased, but, really Wonder Woman should begin her series in...World War 2, fighting Nazis.  It was...Wonderful and Awesome, to see EEEvil Nazis each week in the Lynda Carter Wonder Woman series.  I really hope that Wonder Woman gets a green light for a new series, as the original began...36 years ago!

post #35 of 44

Definitely the material.  The 'shops where the specular highlights were toned down to give the pants a more leather-like sheen, and the top a more matte polyester appearance look much much better.  Have to wonder how noisy that costume will be.

post #36 of 44

Doesn't help that Palicki looks like a drag queen.

post #37 of 44

And when the show fails, the producers will blame it on the WW character and not the way she was mishandled.

post #38 of 44
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Doesn't help that Palicki looks like a drag queen.



Oh that's not fair.  I think she looks great; dark brown hair and blue eyes work great.  

 

That costume sucks.  I like the bustier part of it but the pants and boots stink. 

post #39 of 44

I don't think Palicki looks like a drag queen all the time. Just in that shot. She's sticking her chin out to look tough, I guess?

 

Can't believe ANYONE thinks this is a good idea. Liz Hurley is the villain. LIZ HURLEY.

post #40 of 44
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Doesn't help that Palicki looks like a drag queen.

I think she looks like Heather Donahue (BLAIR WITCH) or Rose McGowan in a slutty Halloween costume. The lipstick (as the PS versions attest) needs to be toned waaaay down. As does the material. And if that script review is real, the project needs to be a filmed pilot only that we can all laugh at when the bootleg hits the cons (but I won't buy, b/c that would advocate piracy, but I can still laugh).

 

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post #41 of 44

Wow - they've managed to make Dean Cain's Superman costume look classy and respectful in comparison.

post #42 of 44
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Originally Posted by Andrew Merriweather View Post

I don't think Palicki looks like a drag queen all the time. Just in that shot. She's sticking her chin out to look tough, I guess?

 

Can't believe ANYONE thinks this is a good idea. Liz Hurley is the villain. LIZ HURLEY.


Shades of Catwoman where Sharon Stone was the villain.

 

post #43 of 44
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And if that script review is real, the project needs to be a filmed pilot only that we can all laugh at when the bootleg hits the cons (but I won't buy, b/c that would advocate piracy, but I can still laugh).


Did you watch this?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=re9-r0cNWD4#t=2m25s

 

Tanit Phoenix is reading directly from the script in the audition.

post #44 of 44

It's a real script I read the same nonsense from another source (EW? /film? I don't remember.)

It looks atrocious. Kelly is a moron for trying to blend so many stuff together. 

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