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post #1 of 476
3/23/11 at 9:47am
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Hell, it is 2011, right?  So let's start this party with the unveiling of the new "Pac 12" logo...along with a horrible, horrible video.

 

collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/16/pac-12-unveils-new-logo-unleashes-video-hell/

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post #2 of 476
3/29/11 at 12:22pm
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Showing that colleges aren't the only ones that can throw money around, the Fiesta Bowl has fired it's president, John Junker.  Or he resigned, depending on who you ask.  http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6270202/28139027  http://nyti.ms/ggtgsH

 

Greatest quote in the NYT article: when asked about a $1200 tab at a strip club charged to the Fiesta Bowl, Junker says, "We are in the business where big strong athletes are known to attend these types of establishments. It was important for us to visit, and we certainly conducted business.”

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post #3 of 476
4/3/11 at 9:12am

This sets up Jerry Jones to take the Cotton Bowl to a major Championship.

 

Anyone see the HBO special on college athletics and money?  Auburn takes a hit.

 

The big time programs could pay each college football player over $600,000.  Duke could play a 12 member squad $1.1 million each.  This assuming they go by what the pros have bargained.  The NCAA also makes them sign their likness away(for life) on video games. 

 

Auburn football made $125 million over a 3 year period in the mid 2000's.

 

Eventually they will have to pay these guys.

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post #4 of 476
4/21/11 at 1:32pm
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Is anyone else following the Harvey Updyke (the Toomer's Corner Tree Killer) in his press conference?  Holy cow, you wouldn't believe this isn't David Koechner doing a bit in a movie.

 

"This is not a Charlie Sheen stunt.  I'm not winning; I'm losing."

 

"I did not stop at the gas station for gas; I stopped for green tea."

 

"...All of my wives have always said I'm a pot-stirrer."

 

He wanted to name his daughter Ally Bama.  Oh, and he never went to UA.  This is great stuff.

 

Oh, and he apologized to everyone EXCEPT Auburn.

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post #5 of 476
4/21/11 at 3:12pm

According to this article on his recent beating, he already has kids named "Crimson Tyde" [sic] and "Bear".

 

I gotta find that press conference.

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post #6 of 476
6/14/11 at 11:02pm

Hey i always take parts in every college football league because i love play football

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post #7 of 476
6/15/11 at 6:51am
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And apparently you didn't wear a helmet when you played...

 

Anyway...I'm not overtly psyched yet for the 2011 season, but I'm getting there.  I'm going to the OU/FSU game (jealous, Starving Dog and fleed?), so once that game is over, my stress level will be a bit less for the rest of FSU's season.  I think they can win 10 games again--to me, the real wild cards will be UM and UF since they both have new coaches.  At least UM will be in Tally.

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post #8 of 476
6/15/11 at 7:39am



 

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And apparently you didn't wear a helmet when you played...

 

Anyway...I'm not overtly psyched yet for the 2011 season, but I'm getting there.  I'm going to the OU/FSU game (jealous, Starving Dog and fleed?), so once that game is over, my stress level will be a bit less for the rest of FSU's season.  I think they can win 10 games again--to me, the real wild cards will be UM and UF since they both have new coaches.  At least UM will be in Tally.


That OU/FSU game should be a good one. I honestly think FSU has a chance at winning the ACC. As a Buckeye fan, I'm currently one part dreading the season and one part excited to have something other than crap to focus on. I don't know what Ohio State is going to do this year. It could be horrible but I think it will just end up being mediocre. So, which SEC team do you guys think will win it all this year? Or will the streak be broken?

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post #9 of 476
6/15/11 at 8:28am
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Can't count out Alabama again...they've got a question mark at QB, which is not a good place for that, but they've got the RB talent to lean on until the QB gets up to speed.  LSU is also supposed to be really good, but apparently the QB is another "high risk = high reward" type of guy.  If he can calm down and become more consistent, and with the balls that their coach has, there's no reason they couldn't be in there competing as well.

 

I think UF is probably a 7-8 win team, just because they've got so much talent still that was recruited for the option, and now they have to figure out how to use it all in Weis' schemes, plus they lost a lot in the draft on defense, and the all star CB that didn't leave early got booted from the team.  Auburn will drop a lot I think.  I think the dark horse could be Ole Miss or Miss. State.

 

 

In the ACC, everyone has FSU and Va Tech as the front runners--but there is always some team that makes a surprise run.  If Swinney knew how to coach his way out of a paper bag, I'd say Clemson would be in there, but...  I think Wake is on the verge of falling back to being just "Wake Forest", even though they just spent a lot of money renewing Grobe's contract.  I think UM will be sort of middle of the road again with their new "no nonsense coach".  There has been a bit of a player exodus, so I think they'll have issues in 2011 and 2012 just with depth in general.  Same thing happened with FSU when Jimbo took over, both as OC and as HC.

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post #10 of 476
6/15/11 at 8:43am
Anyone watch the whole Terrelle Pryor news conference? I was not surprised in the least that he had Drew Rosenhaus on his side.
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post #11 of 476
6/15/11 at 8:55am
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The funny thing is, he's being described as "6th to 7th round talent" when it comes to the NFL. 

 

*ring*

Drew Rosenhaus: "Hello?"

Pryor: "Drew!  Tell me what I wanna hear!"

Drew: "Are you kidding?  You would have gone before Cam Newton, no problem.  If only Tressel hadn't lied for, uh, to you before he quit.  1st rounder all the way, baby!"

Pryor: "Thanks.  I needed that.  Going for more tats.  Later."

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post #12 of 476
6/15/11 at 8:59am

I haven't watched it because I'm not quite ready to accept his apologies yet but Rosenhaus is his agent now, shouldn't he be on his side?

 

Also, unlike most Ohio State fans, I do not blame Pryor for the demise of Coach Tressel. Unfortunately, many of my Buckeye brethren force me to make that a point whenever I discuss football because I don't like being considered a moron.

 

Martianman, this is Jimbo's second year right? Is he going to join the ranks of coaches with a 2nd year championship? Any indication he is that good or do you not want to jinx it?

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post #13 of 476
6/16/11 at 11:48am
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Yeah, we'll see.  I'm cautiously optimistic--an ACC championship and a BCS win would be big to me.  I'm not looking for a MNC this year.  The WRs are still a bit green (to me) to be reliable, and although EJ (new QB) has shown he can win big ball games (he was the Gator Bowl MVP in 2009), how will he do for a whole season?  The drop off behind him is pretty large if he gets hurt--a true FR and a RS FR.  The RBs are there, the Oline takes a bit of a hit with the loss of McMahon and Hudson.  Defense should keep improving...I think only 3 starters are gone from last year.  I don't have rose-colored glasses--I think 10 wins is very conceivable again this year.  And after making the ACCCG last year, I think fans will want that to happen again, but a victory this time.  I just think the Dline was worn out from the season for that game, so they couldn't rush/contain Taylor.  After the rest before the CFA bowl, they stepped up again and stopped USC's running game and put pressure on their QB the whole game.

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post #14 of 476
6/28/11 at 9:10am

Any one have an opinion on Wilson and the move to Wisconsin? I like him and watched him quite a bit last year, I just don't know how quickly he can get the offense.On the other hand, it isn't like Wiscy runs a really advanced offense and a mobile QB could supercharge what they do on the ground. It seems like a pipe dream but I think they have an outside shot at the national championship this year. Unless the defense is horrible.

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post #15 of 476
6/29/11 at 5:03am
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I'm late to the game on this one...I saw "Wilson makes a decision" and I thought they meant between football and baseball.  Can't believe he transferred to another school with what, one year of eligibility left?  I guess Tom O'Brien finally ran him off.  Wilson is a dynamic athlete, and if it weren't for him, the last few years of NC State/FSU games wouldn't have been so close.  He'll have to sit a year to play at Wisconsin, right?  I didn't read all the details.  I think NC State is definitely worse off for it.  I'm wondering if O'Brien gave him an ultimatum and said either you play football or baseball--no more of playing both, so he transferred.

 

He usually tried (or had) to win games single-handedly for NCSU, so with Wisconsin's running game, they'll have to get him to dial back his aggresiveness a bit, and let him know that he the talent surrounding him to help win games.  Which should take the pressure off him.  It will be interesting, if Wisconsin can use him similar to how Pryor was used.  And Wilson throws a much better ball than Pryor.

 

From a selfish POV, I'm glad to see him go from NCSU and the ACC.

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post #16 of 476
6/29/11 at 5:32am
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I'm late to the game on this one...I saw "Wilson makes a decision" and I thought they meant between football and baseball.  Can't believe he transferred to another school with what, one year of eligibility left?  I guess Tom O'Brien finally ran him off.  Wilson is a dynamic athlete, and if it weren't for him, the last few years of NC State/FSU games wouldn't have been so close.  He'll have to sit a year to play at Wisconsin, right?  I didn't read all the details.  I think NC State is definitely worse off for it.  I'm wondering if O'Brien gave him an ultimatum and said either you play football or baseball--no more of playing both, so he transferred.

 

He usually tried (or had) to win games single-handedly for NCSU, so with Wisconsin's running game, they'll have to get him to dial back his aggresiveness a bit, and let him know that he the talent surrounding him to help win games.  Which should take the pressure off him.  It will be interesting, if Wisconsin can use him similar to how Pryor was used.  And Wilson throws a much better ball than Pryor.

 

From a selfish POV, I'm glad to see him go from NCSU and the ACC.



I don't totally understand the rule but basically because he finished his degree so quickly and has one year of eligibility, he can go anywhere to play without sitting a year. It's similar to Masoli playing at Ole Miss last year except Wilson didn't get kicked off the team. This is why there needs to be a database of old football games. I'd love to rewatch some of Wilson's games with an eye toward what the Badgers do. Still, you have a good point about not trying to do it on his own. That can be a hard lesson.

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post #17 of 476
6/29/11 at 6:32am
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You should be able to find some highlights at least on YouTube.  I'd also check NC State fan sites and forums and you can probably find games.  For example, I think the Orlando Sentinel is providing replays of all 10 wins that FSU had last season.

 

Going back to the pressure thing, I will say this--if you can get to him (Wilson), he can be rattled.  I think it's more frustration than being afraid of being hit.  But if he gets in a groove, whether it's throwing or running, he's hard to stop.  In 2009, FSU just plain outscored NCSU and gave them ball back with just over a minute to play, so they didn't have time to score again.  I think the final score was like 52-47 or something like that.

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post #18 of 476
7/8/11 at 10:51am

Keep on keepin' on, Ohio State: Ohio State Vacates 2010 Wins, Puts Self on Probation.

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post #19 of 476
7/15/11 at 9:05am

ESPN shitcans BruceFeldman.  This will end well.

 

http://sportsbybrooks.com/bruce-feldman-suspended-indefinitely-by-espn-29786

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post #20 of 476
7/18/11 at 10:02am
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Supposedly, that wasn't true.  ESPN came back and said they didn't suspend him.  Probably because of the uproar it caused.

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post #21 of 476
7/20/11 at 4:02pm

And Texas is officially killing the Big 12. Now, I'm getting REALLY worried about the future of my beloved Mizzou Tigers. I think they'd be lucky to make the Pac10 invite, and that is probably just wishful thinking. *sigh* as if I didn't hate Texas enough.

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post #22 of 476
7/21/11 at 10:54am
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Next 3 Chick-Fil-A kick off games have been announced:

 

2011 - UGA vs. Boise State

2012 - Tennessee vs. NC State

2013 - Va. Tech vs. Alabama

 

 

I have a feeling UGA is gonna get whipped, but we'll see.  UT and NCSU...hmm.  Not too sure about the excitement level for that one.  They kept trying to get FSU to play either Alabama or UF in the game one year.  Jimbo didn't want to play UF as the first game of the season...don't know what happend with UA.

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post #23 of 476
7/21/11 at 11:57am

I agree on UGA vs Boise St.

My early prediction is Boise St vs Oklahoma in the title game. OU has a weakened Big 12 (minus 2), senior leadership, and no Championship game to worry about.Boise St has loads of upper classmen, a stacked DLine, and they have been slowly creeping up in the standings year after year......just feel this could finally be their shot.

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post #24 of 476
7/27/11 at 6:24pm
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Well, UNC finally let Butch Davis dangle enough.  They fired him today. Amazing that they go through all they went through, then get on the edge of a brand new season with all that behind them, then they decide to fire the coach.  He even went through ACC media day for the school.  Then they fire him.  And yet he was never named in any of the wrongdoings at UNC.  He did hire the coach/trainer that started the whole mess, but he came out of it clean, only to be axed weeks before the new season starts.  Wow.

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post #25 of 476
8/16/11 at 8:53am
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WTF is up with the ACC Coastal division?  UNC, Ga Tech, and now UM is being investigated for benefits paid to players by a former booster (and Ponzi scheme guy who is now in jail).

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post #26 of 476
8/16/11 at 9:56am

As a Tennessee fan, I've taken my sweet time participating in this thread, but with the season getting closer, it's time I begrudgingly participate.

 

Really, for the Vols, I'm not expecting true improvement until next year, but this year I'd like to see us be more competitive. We have talent, but it's very young. Also, if Tyler Bray's still doing that dumb throat-slashing stuff, I may throw a shoe at my TV. I think it's reasonable to hope for 8-9 wins for the Vols, tops.

 

Also, that Kickoff Classic matchup looks pretty crappy. How funny that we canceled a home-and-home starting for North Carolina this year. If only we'd known their program would implode.

 

 

 

 

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post #27 of 476
8/16/11 at 11:11am
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I think UT bowing out of home/home series must be the NCAA funeral dirge for teams.  They did it to USC, and now it's happened with UNC.

 

From what I see, I think UT is moving in the right direction.  Dooley looks like a good coach--my neighbor went to La Tech and was sad to see him go.  Fulmer got to be like Bowden--thanks for the past, but it's probably about time for you to move on, dude.  I'm extremely excited for Fisher's 2nd year and the future.  The program has been in disarray since pretty much the day Richt was announced as the new UGA coach.  Jimbo got the offense back on track, and now hopefully the whole team.

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post #28 of 476
8/16/11 at 12:38pm

Yeah, Florida State has been killing recruiting, and the renewed sense of focus will serve them well. They've gotta be the ACC fav, right?

 

SEC-wise, I'm really intrigued to see how Florida will be this year. I think Tennessee could conceivably beat them in a close game, especially since the game is early in the season. (Although, frankly, the East appears to be cannon fodder for the West again this year, save for maybe SC or UGA.)

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post #29 of 476
8/16/11 at 12:57pm

Muschamp moved the wunderkid Jeff Driskel up the depth chart and there are fans who are just ready to throw him into the fire and jettison Brantley into Lake Mary.

 

I'm optimistic for nine wins, honestly. And as we've seen, it's always the second year in which new UF coaches really hit their stride (unless your name is Zook)

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post #30 of 476
8/16/11 at 1:11pm

The second year theory intrigues me about Dooley as well, although according to him, that isn't until next year. (Frankly, after the Kiffin fiasco, I agree with him.)

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post #31 of 476
8/16/11 at 4:07pm
Counting down the days til kickoff. Would love to see Bama win another one ( and TTown could sure as fuck use the revenue). Roll Tide!
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post #32 of 476
8/16/11 at 7:09pm
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This is starting to get ugly for UM.  Yahoo has had to devote separate web pages for each player's alleged payments, gifts, etc.  If even half of what this guy is saying is true, they're fucked.  Royally.  And if it's not...you don't make yourself look any better by associating with a guy like that, naming a library after him, and giving him sideline entry, player association, etc.

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post #33 of 476
8/17/11 at 7:18am
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Man, it keeps getting worse and worse for UM.  Apparently now it appears that they knew this was coming before they hired Golden.  Also, a writer for the Miami Herald has said there is "zero" chance that the 12 current players implicated will take the field for their first game vs. Maryland.  That includes Jacory Harris.  And there is another report that the NCAA has access to more information than has already been put out there.  Yikes and yikes again.  New payoffs included bounties on players, especially during FSU and UF games that UM played.  Chris Rix had a $5000 bounty on him if any player could knock him out of a game.

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post #34 of 476
8/17/11 at 7:50am

An amazing story. It's kind of sad that our country's best investigative journalists work for Yahoo Sports.

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post #35 of 476
8/17/11 at 9:38pm

Is anyone really surprised by this?  This shit has been going on at UM since the Luther Campbell days.  Pretty fucked up that he paid for that stripper's abortion without even informing the supposed father, and his explanation is classic: "The moron might have kept the baby!"

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post #36 of 476
8/18/11 at 8:18am

I'm surprised.  Not that it happened, but by the sheer breadth and pervasiveness of it.

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post #37 of 476
8/18/11 at 9:58am

So, the NFL is picking up Terrelle Pryor's NCAA punishment, suspending him for the first five games of the year. Granted, Pryor won't even be close to playing during that time, but still, what a terrible precedent.

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post #38 of 476
8/18/11 at 2:21pm

Yeah, I don't like that ruling, either.

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post #39 of 476
8/18/11 at 6:31pm
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It sets a weird precedent.  Pryor gets some tats, withholds info from the NCAA, then declares.  The NFL decides to uphold the suspension from the NCAA.  Stallworth kills a guy, and is suspended for 16 games.  Pryor gets 1/3 of the time for what he did.  I think if this wasn't for the supplemental draft, it may not have happened.  Pryor wasn't in the draft to start with, and even filed his paperwork late.  I have a feeling Goodell told him that if he took the suspension, they'd let him be in the draft.  Because if you notice, Pryor and his people aren't exactly crying foul.

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post #40 of 476
8/22/11 at 1:16pm

Here's the new slogan for this year's Tennessee football team:

 

http://deadspin.com/5833302/the-new-slogan-for-tennessees-football-program-opportunity-is-nowhere

 

Haha! I know they mean to say "now here," but I'm afraid the other way is closer to the truth.

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post #41 of 476
8/24/11 at 7:15am

Man, what a lousy time to be a fan of Tennessee. Yesterday brought the horrible news about Pat Summit, our former basketball coach is going to be banned from college bball for 3 years, and now our best football player has been kicked off the team.  "Opportunity is Nowhere," indeed.

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post #42 of 476
8/24/11 at 9:42pm

The Pat Summit thing totally sucks, she is a hell of a coach.  She's a classy lady and I'll think she's handle this with the strength of character she's always shown.  Bruce Pearl, on the other hand, is a giant douche bag.  Not that I'm a Tiger fan or anything...

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post #43 of 476
8/25/11 at 1:30pm
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Texas A&M has officially sent a letter to the Big 12 telling them that they are "exploring other opportunities" and would like the Big 12 to spell out their withdrawal procedures.

 

"IT HAS BEGUN!!!!!"

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post #44 of 476
8/25/11 at 4:32pm

Siiiiiiiigh......that's depressing.

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post #45 of 476
8/27/11 at 2:54pm

A&M is doing the right thing.  Texas is almost deliberately trying to kill their conference, and it's not even a good one.  A&M getting into the SEC is a whole lot more money and credibility, good move.  Texas is going to find that even being a big school isn't the best option without a conference, Notre Dame is an anomaly.

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post #46 of 476
8/27/11 at 3:31pm

A&M will be horrible in the SEC. They escape sharing a conference with Texas and end up as the new Ole Miss

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post #47 of 476
8/27/11 at 3:37pm

The Big 12 should have started a contingency plan last year. They should have went after TCU before the Big East did, and then invited Boise State. Then when A&M threw a fit and decided to leave, they could have just invited someone like Houston or BYU and been just fine.

 

And, Kernel - how is it not a good conference? They have had more appearances in the national championship scene than almost any conference over the last decade (although it was almost all Oklahoma). OU and Texas are always highly ranked (until last years Texas collapse), Oklahoma State is always competitive and Missouri is consistently good. Until they fired their coaches, Texas Tech and Kansas were competitive as well. And Kansas has one of the best basketball teams in the nation every year for people who care about sports other than football.

 

Nebraska was a tough loss. Colorado was nothing anymore in any sport.

 

And the No. 1 preseason team in the nation is a Big 12 team.

 

How is that not a good conference? I honestly believe that, in football, the Big 12 is a better conference that the Pac 12.

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post #48 of 476
8/30/11 at 10:55am
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Well, the ACC...starts with "A".  So it should be listed first.  Nyeah.

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post #49 of 476
8/31/11 at 7:12am
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First wave of punishment for UM...eight players suspended differing amounts of games for the season.  Couple of guys out for 4-6 games, most of the rest only 1 game (which I think is complete bullshit).  I guess they based it on how much money and favors they received.  Those guys from OSU got free tats and were suspended 4 games.

 

I've seen UM fans alread shouting "No death penalty!"  What they fail to realize is, this is punishment for the players, not the overall NCAA judgement.  That won't come for months.  And while I doubt there will be a death penalty, I'm sure forfeiting games, loss of scholarships, and no post-season games will be in their near future.  And I'll call it now--if they don't have to forfeit any games, then the NCAA is truly a complete farce.

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post #50 of 476
8/31/11 at 8:13am
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Well, supposedly Texas A&M has officially withdrawn from the Big 12.  Wow.

 

EDIT: Officially they have told the Big 12 they are pursuing other opportunities, but did not say with which conference.


Edited by Martianman - 8/31/11 at 8:33am
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