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post #251 of 476

I hate Boise State with a burning passion, so happy they lost!  Fuck you and your shitty field!

post #252 of 476

Boise State was the only thing keeping me interested in college football this year.

post #253 of 476
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More good news for Tennessee fans:  Line vs. Vanderbilt starts at -1 for Vandy.  Yes, Vanderbilt is favored by 1 over UT.

 

Taking my son to the FSU/UVA game this weekend--and I've said for the past 2-3 weeks, there is absolutely no way this game will be at night.  What time is the game?  7:30 on ESPN2.  Hm.  Now, there is absolutely no way I would inherit 10 million dollars this week.  I mean, NO WAY.  *waits for windfall*  And bizarrely enough, even though UVA is 7-3, FSU is an 18 point favorite.  Wow.

post #254 of 476

I'm no lawyer, and besides watching a few episodes of Law and Order, know nothing about trials, evidence, etc...

 

but, WHAT THE FUCK was Sandusky doing last night?  Why would you put yourself, at the spot of the crime.  Admit to touching the boys, in a nonsexual way, and saying "yeah, I showered with them".

 

Legal Suicide?  WTF... 

post #255 of 476
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Yeah, I was shocked to hear about that interview too.  I mean, what are you doing?  Who told you this was a good idea?  

 

"This week on Oprah--just one week after leading police in a "high" speed chase, OJ Simpson takes us back to the house where his wife was killed and walks us through how he didn't do it."

post #256 of 476

His lawyer, and you can't make this shit up, was 40, and impregnated a 17 year old girl.  

 

So, his lawyer probably thought it was a good idea seeing his judgement is sound. 

post #257 of 476

Just to raise the skeeviness factor, the lawyer was actually almost 50.

 

Between the disgusting cover-up, the idiotic riots and that embarrassment of an interview last night, I can only assume the people of Happy Valley have been gorging on a steady diet of stupid pills for the last few years. Deluded fucktards, all of them.

post #258 of 476

I just watched the interview and read up on this thing.

 

The only way for this dude to look guiltier would be if he was actually fucking a young boy during the interview. 

post #259 of 476
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More good news for Tennessee fans:  Line vs. Vanderbilt starts at -1 for Vandy.  Yes, Vanderbilt is favored by 1 over UT.


It's been a while since I commented on my beloved Vols, because what's the point? However, I feel the need to vent.

 

UT is flat-out awful. I didn't have anything even resembling expectations when this season started, and it's actually proven worse than feared. Injuries have hurt us, but still, if it wasn't for Kentucky, we'd be the worst team in the SEC by far. I think Vandy could flat-out kick UT's ass, a horrifying prospect that I never thought I'd see in my lifetime.

 

In the meantime, Vandy has started to take the majority of in-state talent. The Vols can't even get players in the state?!?!? WHAT? This is a nightmare.

 

I still think Dooley deserves another season, as the team has been depleted, and the young talent needs at least 1-2 more years' experience for us to even know what we have. Still, phrases like this don't inspire confidence:

 

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Following a 49-7 rout by No. 6 Arkansas that sent the Vols to their first 0-6 SEC start, Tennessee coach Derek Dooley had this to say: "This is like we're in advanced school, football school of beatdown learning."

Well said, Double D. Well said.

post #260 of 476

the fools at Penn State.. the student protesters should be ashamed.  I was thinking, they are making it damn difficult for any victim to come forwards.  Besides the fear of coming public, they now may fear a backlash from this fucktards at Penn State.  

post #261 of 476
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Just to raise the skeeviness factor, the lawyer was actually almost 50.

 

 

I'll see that skeeviness and raise it by pointing out that he was also her attorney in her legal emancipation hearing. 

post #262 of 476

and then they married.... awwwwww

 

but then got divorced.... I guess once she was out of High School, she wasn't as appealing. 

post #263 of 476
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and then they married.... awwwwww

 

 


Yeah, because, you know ... values.

 

Jesus Christ, this country is so fucked up.

post #264 of 476

Bob Davie hired by New Mexico.  A good move all around.  It gets him to one of the few schools he couldn't possibly underachieve at.  And, more importantly, it gets him off my fucking television.

post #265 of 476
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Bob Davie hired by New Mexico.  A good move all around.  It gets him to one of the few schools he couldn't possibly underachieve at.  And, more importantly, it gets him off my fucking television.


Uh, don't count on that; now they will have a direct line to a Division 1 football program.  Bill Curry left the mothership a few years ago and yet he pops up on ESPN way too many times for a guy that coaches a team (Georgia State University) that is in just its second season of existence as a Division 2 school.

 

post #266 of 476

so Patrick Witt is skipping his Rhodes Scholor interview to play in the Harvard/Yale game this Saturday.

 

What would you do?

post #267 of 476

Definitely going with the Rhodes interview. Football is awesome, brains is awesomer.

 

The fansites for the Buckeyes are abuzz with the sound of morons swooning over Urban Meyer. Rumors are swirling that he has secretly agreed to become the coach and, god, I feel dumber just reporting stupid forum-based sports rumors. If that dude becomes the coach and dies of a heart attack, I will not be happy. Still, some media types have started hinting out news about Urban though so who knows.

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post #269 of 476

I should have known Oklahoma State would screw this up.  If Alabama gets another shot after losing to LSU at home, that's gonna be so fucking annoying.

post #270 of 476

Top 3 teams in the country are in the SEC West.  There's parity and then there's mediocrity.

post #271 of 476

As and SEC homer, I have to admit I find it pretty amusing.  The SEC championship game has become a de facto entry into the national championship game, and now they seem to be taking the next step.

 

In reality, I think it's a bit silly and I like the idea of big teams that don't see each other all year square off for the title.

post #272 of 476

Imagine rooting against No.2 (Oklahoma St) and No.4 (Oregon) and being a Sooner fan watching your 5th ranked team lose.

 

Amazing. What a weekend.

post #273 of 476

Ouch.  Sorry Johnny, I know that busted a few friends parlay cards.

post #274 of 476

What if LSU loses to Arkansas and then Alabama wins the tiebreaker and goes to the SEC title game, but they lose to Georgia?  Does Arkansas then go to the BCS title game?

 

What if LSU beats Arkansas but loses to Georgia.  Do they still go to the BCS title game?  For my money they'd still have the best resume of any one loss team.

 

What if Alabama loses the Iron Bowl, VaTech loses to Clemson in the ACC title game,  Stanford loses to USC in the Pac-12 title game, and LSU goes undefeated... would Boise State get a shot?  Houston?  Would a one loss LSU still deserve to be number one, even if their loss comes in the final game, if all the other decent teams have two losses??

 

It's madness!!

post #275 of 476

And that is why I think every argument against a playoff/tournament system is absurd.  If any or all of those things happened, college football would shit itself.  We'd be back to the days when multiple schools claimed a national championship every year.

post #276 of 476

Clarity... sort of.

post #277 of 476

Well shit its made the whole season even that much more interesting. Its a great time to be a football fan.

post #278 of 476

Anybody see the clip of Coach Dooley talking trash to Vanderbilt? Hilarious. UT sneaks past Vanderbilt in overtime, and they acted like they won the national championship.

 

Also, RIP Larry Munson, who came from a magical time when sports announcers had actual personailities.

post #279 of 476
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Blerg!  Been on vacation this week, so getting to a computer has been a lower tier priority.

 

First and foremost...what a shitty performance by the FSU offense this past week.  And (as usual) by the ACC refs.  The head ref couldn't even form a sentence when he made the calls.  That game was even worse to see in person.  UVA was constantly hitting the FSU receivers out of bounds but there were no calls.  The refs tried to skip a down on FSU, but with all that, FSU had their chances on offense, and they blew them all.  Fisher at least said that all starts with him, and that it was his fault.  I just wonder if, between being HC, QB coach, and now dealing with the disease his kid is going through...I wouldn't be surprised if he's getting burned out this season.  I think he'll be the happiest FSU person to see this season end.  With a win over UF and Notre Dame (presumably in the Champs Bowl), I still consider this season a step forward. He's got to win at least one of these final 2 games, though.  This is a pretty good defense with a mediocre to awful offense, and good teams figure out how to win that way.

 

Ok, done.  And I sit back and laugh and watch the BCS burn, as I expect most of us do.

post #280 of 476

Just knew LSU was gonna break it open eventually.  I was hoping for a respectable loss at least.

 

Bama and LSU are so close even their margin of victory over the Razorbacks was exactly the same.

 

What's next for Arkansas?  Capital One Bowl?  Cotton Bowl?

post #281 of 476
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Ugh.  No offense to LSU fans, but I will be rooting against LSU while Mathieu is a player on their team.  That guy can get a career-ending injury for all I care.  What a cocksucker.

post #282 of 476

Goddamn, Tennessee had a shitty team this year.

post #283 of 476
10 win season, one of which comes over that team from Ohio, sounds like a good start to the Brady Hoke era.
post #284 of 476

I really, really, really don't want an Alabama/LSU rematch.  For one, the first game wasn't all that great (just because it was close doesn't mean it was exciting).  For another, it would make a total mockery of the "every regular season game matters" argument against a playoff.  LSU already showed they're better than Alabama.  Why should they have to do so again?

post #285 of 476

If LSU beats Georgia, there's really no argument for anybody beating them in a one game scenario being more deserving of the championship.  Alabama is the most worthy #2, and yet LSU has a head to head victory over them as well as wins over (what would be) two additional top schools (Oregon and Georgia.)

 

And yes, Dickson, you're right, this is the problem with the "every game matters" philosophy.  People bring up that other sports have rematches all the time, but the reason playoff rematches aren't detrimental to other sports is because everybody understands the difference between regular season and postseason.  You have to do enough to get into the tournament, and then it's wide open.  It's not that way with college football.  The impact of the regular season bleeds into the final game, and into the final rankings. And this year, LSU has been so dominant, that even a win over them in the final game won't make anyone's resume better.  It's why the Tigers can lose to Georgia and still get into the final game... they have at least a one game cushion over everybody else.

post #286 of 476

GO BUCKY!!!   Nice to see the Badgers stick to their meat and potatoes offense.  Ram it home against Penn State, and get ready for the Big Ten Championship.

 

And, and screw the Penn State ads, that sound like BP going "we're sorry"

post #287 of 476
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 And this year, LSU has been so dominant, that even a win over them in the final game won't make anyone's resume better.  It's why the Tigers can lose to Georgia and still get into the final game... they have at least a one game cushion over everybody else.



And that is so completely screwy.  You could have two teams that didn't even win their own conference playing for the title.  So what's the point of winning the conference?  And if there's no point to that, there's no point to regular season conference games.  And there goes your "regular season games matter" argument out the window once again.

post #288 of 476

The NCAA is so broken. Keep those bowls and bowl dollars flowing though.

post #289 of 476

I will never buy the arguments against a playoff.  "But the sanctity of the bowls!"  You mean the bowls between two 6-6 teams that have all been rendered irrelevant because we have one game now for the championship, as opposed to the New Year's Days when I was younger when three or even four games had title implications?  "There's too much money to be made with the BCS!"  You mean to tell me a college football playoff would somehow make less money?  Oh, it would make less money for the conferences, since they wouldn't have their guaranteed BCS bowl spots, that's what they mean.

 

It's not hard.  Sixteen team playoff.  Automatic bids for conference winners, selection committee for the other teams just like basketball.  Keep the lower tier bowls as a nice reward for teams not really in playoff contention (which is what they pretty much are now).  First round is played at the higher seeds' home stadiums.  Sugar, Fiesta, Cotton, Orange, Rose, and two other bowls (maybe Capital One and Outback) host the playoff games, with the semi-finals and finals rotating year to year.  There.  Done.  Go make money.

 

And if you're going to say, "That's too many games, think of the students," then you'd better be ready to dismantle the FCS division playoffs, because they're playing just as many games.

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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post

I will never buy the arguments against a playoff.  "But the sanctity of the bowls!"  You mean the bowls between two 6-6 teams that have all been rendered irrelevant because we have one game now for the championship, as opposed to the New Year's Days when I was younger when three or even four games had title implications?  "There's too much money to be made with the BCS!"  You mean to tell me a college football playoff would somehow make less money?  Oh, it would make less money for the conferences, since they wouldn't have their guaranteed BCS bowl spots, that's what they mean.

 

It's not hard.  Sixteen team playoff.  Automatic bids for conference winners, selection committee for the other teams just like basketball.  Keep the lower tier bowls as a nice reward for teams not really in playoff contention (which is what they pretty much are now).  First round is played at the higher seeds' home stadiums.  Sugar, Fiesta, Cotton, Orange, Rose, and two other bowls (maybe Capital One and Outback) host the playoff games, with the semi-finals and finals rotating year to year.  There.  Done.  Go make money.

 

And if you're going to say, "That's too many games, think of the students," then you'd better be ready to dismantle the FCS division playoffs, because they're playing just as many games.

 

Agree. It's like they want to keep the money coming in now without the fear of MAYBE losing some if they change to a playoff... To be honest, the NCAA would make more money if they went into a playoff system. Keep the TOP teams playing even longer, pulls in more money from the audiences and television.
 

 

post #291 of 476

Well, that's the thing, the NCAA would make the money, not the conferences as it is now.

post #292 of 476

The goal of the BCS is to have the two best teams in the title game, and there's a huge dropoff after Alabama.

post #293 of 476

The goal of the BCS should be to have the top two ranked teams in the country.  And you should earn your ranking through what you do on the field, not by talent evaluation.

 

The primary part of what you do on the field is your record.  The next part of that is who you beat and who you lost to.  And another part is winning your conference.  I think right now Alabama is the best choice for a #2 team.  However, if at the end of the regular season Oklahoma State has as good a record as Alabama, a better strength of schedule (not sure if they will or not), and won their conference, then how can they NOT be the team that earned the second spot?

post #294 of 476

Because everyone knows that they would get destroyed by either LSU or Alabama, including those who vote in the Harris and Coaches polls. If LSU were to slip up against Georgia, I could guarantee that LSU would fall to 2, and the rematch would still be played.  Okie State is a good team, but they were never going to bouce back into the top 2 as long as Alabama beat Auburn.

post #295 of 476

As an LSU fan, most LSU fans still want to see a good game and welcome a rematch with Alabama.  But it would be hilarious to face another team from another conference just so LSU can beat the shit out of them and shut those guys up.

 

Seriously, LSU has more depth than any team in the NCAA. It sounds like they will actually be better next year too. That being said, the Georgia game will be another great match up next week.

post #296 of 476
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Goddamn, Tennessee had a shitty team this year.


Shitty, deflating, depressing, devoid of hope...UT was all of these things. As the injuries piled up, the coaching responded by actually getting worse. I was all for giving Dooley at least 3-4 years, based on the situation he inherited, but he is not a good coach. At all.

 

The main reason I don't buy the anti-playoff argument is because EVERY OTHER DIVISION HAS ONE. I don't see anyone worrying that Appalachian State students aren't getting enough class time. 

post #297 of 476

FSU beat Florida by two scores last night with only 95 yards of total offense.  Man does the state suck this year when it comes to college football.  FSU is 8-4 but ain't a soul happy about it, Florida and Miami are .500, USF and UCF are sub-.500 (with UCF coming off its most successful season ever).  Hell, throw the pro teams in there, and we're a black hole.

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Goddamn, Tennessee had a shitty team this year.


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Shitty, deflating, depressing, devoid of hope...UT was all of these things. As the injuries piled up, the coaching responded by actually getting worse. I was all for giving Dooley at least 3-4 years, based on the situation he inherited, but he is not a good coach. At all.

 

The main reason I don't buy the anti-playoff argument is because EVERY OTHER DIVISION HAS ONE. I don't see anyone worrying that Appalachian State students aren't getting enough class time. 


Sorry Mangy, I just gotta do it....you know who didnt have a shitty season this year? Georgia, as I expected them to! Haha. All in good fun!


 

 

post #299 of 476

Georgia had a helluva turnaround. I've gotta root for them next Saturday. Even if LSU loses, won't they still play in the national championship?

 

I just watched the Derek Dooley Show, where he discussed yesterday's game. The poor guy looked like hell.

post #300 of 476

I will probably not watch another college football game this season. I already saw Alabama/LSU once, don't need to see it again, and UF won't be in a bowl for the first time since Probation. All the other bowls will be crap. Gah, how depressing.

 

But at least Billy Donovan knows how to run it up on A-Sun teams. GO GATORS !

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