THUD: BAD NEWS FOR MAD MEN FANS

I've yet to jump onto this show, but my dad has been loving my blu-rays for the first 3 seasons.  I'll try to get him the 4th when it's on sale.  Hopefully, the show will be back with a 5th season by then.

AMC makes Jon Hamm cry. Fuck them.

The ad agency split already cut many actors from the show. How many more do they want? As much as I worshipped The Suitcase, I don't want this to end up as The Don And Peggy Show. I know Mad Men isn't getting huge ratings but in terms of cultural standing it is the flagship AMC show. 

Fuck AMC.

I can't imagine that AMC would risk the massive PR hit it would take by axing the show.  I hope Weiner stays firm! (oh, stop snickering)

Wow.

I never expected profitablity was the top priority for AMC.

If AMC is so fiscally responsible, why did they even green light the show??

I really did not expect this from AMC.  And I think Weiner should stick to his demands, because as others have said, they will not cancel this show. 

If they take Don and the gang away from me I'm never watching anything on AMC or an AMC produced show again.

That picture of crying Jon Hamm needs to be combined with the caption "YOU'RE KILLING US!!!" for use any time AMC does something like this.

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Originally Posted by Steve Moonrocket 

If they take Don and the gang away from me I'm never watching anything on AMC or an AMC produced show again.

Then you'd miss the superior Breaking Bad.

I don't know where all this "I thought AMC was more about quality than profitablity" stuff is coming from. OF COURSE they're more concerned with profitability. More so now that they have other shows they're investing in-- Walking Dead looked pretty damn expensive to me. I'm sure they're counting their beans a little bit more carefully because of these other ventures.

I do agree about the huge PR stink happening if Mad Men were to be yanked off the air, though. That show really made their name in original programming. But let's be realistic here in regards to this place being some sort of artistic haven. It's not. Ask Henry Bromell about the second season of Rubicon.

Go on. Ask him. He'll gladly tell you his plans. Because at least you'll be listening to him.

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Originally Posted by Nabster 

Wow.

 

I never expected profitablity was the top priority for AMC.

 

If AMC is so fiscally responsible, why did they even green light the show??

 

I really did not expect this from AMC.  And I think Weiner should stick to his demands, because as others have said, they will not cancel this show. 

 

 

No one expected HBO to turn around and cancel a show in its prime without letting it finish properly like Deadwood - but they did that too.

For all these networks that support for edgy and brilliant dramas, every now and then they do like to turn around and remind us all that they're still TV networks run by unimaginative soulless money grubbing Jack Donahey/Jeff Zucker-types that wouldn't know a good tv show from a bad one and may as well be making toasters.

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Originally Posted by The Rain Dog 

No one expected HBO to turn around and cancel a show in its prime without letting it finish properly like Deadwood - but they did that too.

 

For all these networks that support for edgy and brilliant dramas, every now and then they do like to turn around and remind us all that they're still TV networks run by unimaginative soulless money grubbing Jack Donahey/Jeff Zucker-types that wouldn't know a good tv show from a bad one and may as well be making toasters.

 

Right.

I don't even want to even watch Game of Thrones because it seems just the type of show HBO would yank off because they realized how expensive it would be.

This reminds me of Invisible Man, from SciFi. Great show, good ratings got cancelled because they couldn't agree on some backroom dealings. Hopefully they iron things out and this doesn't end on the finale.

The thing I really don't get is that AMC seems to be clamping down on budget AFTER The Walking Dead becomes a massive hit. Surely they can spare a little extra coin now?

I'm not an expert, AT ALL, but I could understand AMC wanting to maintain the sensation of Walking Dead by further spending money on it because they know that it's gotten a lot of heat.

Mad Men, critical darling that it is, isn't supplying AMC with that bottom line good news like Walking Dead did this past year.

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Originally Posted by Walker 

I'm not an expert, AT ALL, but I could understand AMC wanting to maintain the sensation of Walking Dead by further spending money on it because they know that it's gotten a lot of heat.

 

Mad Men, critical darling that it is, isn't supplying AMC with that bottom line good news like Walking Dead did this past year.

Yes apparently becoming a pop culture benchmark and one of the most celebrated shows since The Sopranos just isn't doing it for the executives. Gotta keep those shareholders happy afterall.

Yeah. It's a pretty shitty truth.

I'd bet a dollar that the two characters that AMC wants to axe are Betty and Henry.  A lot of people came to really hate Betty over the course of S4 (and she wasn't even in it that much).  I don't see Weiner caving on that, though.  S4 ended with Betty in a place where she wasn't going to continue to define her life by her relationship with Don, and I imagine his plans for her in S5 will involve her becoming somewhat more independent from Henry.

I'd be more sympathetic to Weiner if the suits budgetary requests didn't coincide with him looking for a massive pay rise himself (he wants $30 mill for two years). 

Shows inherently get more expensive as they go on, after all everyone involved wants more money. The problem with Mad Men is that for all the cultural cache and critical adulation, it isn't actually successful on a broader financial level, even with the upscale viewers the ad rates won't be great as viewership is so low and the decline in DVD sales would have another big impact on revenue streams.

If Weiner really wants to keep making his show, and making it the best it can be, maybe he could give up two mill over the next two years to pay those actors' wages.

As far as I know Weiner already got the 30mil. This is happening because AMC brought up further stuff after that. It seems like they thought they'd bought some cooperation from him.

And if Betty gets the axe I'm giving up on Mad Men, out of principle. In addition to January Jones being superb to look at, the gross misreading of her character online makes me root for her even more.

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Originally Posted by mcnooj82 

I've yet to jump onto this show, but my dad has been loving my blu-rays for the first 3 seasons.  I'll try to get him the 4th when it's on sale.  Hopefully, the show will be back with a 5th season by then.

Nooj. I think you will adore the show when you watch it. I honestly do, you need to get on top of it. Speaking of which I only got halfway through Season 4, time to buy that Blu-Ray and catch up. 

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Originally Posted by The Rain Dog 

No one expected HBO to turn around and cancel a show in its prime without letting it finish properly like Deadwood - but they did that too.

 

For all these networks that support for edgy and brilliant dramas, every now and then they do like to turn around and remind us all that they're still TV networks run by unimaginative soulless money grubbing Jack Donahey/Jeff Zucker-types that wouldn't know a good tv show from a bad one and may as well be making toasters.

 

Yea, but Deadwood was the most expensive TV show at the time.  And Deadwood was well reviewed, but culturally it was insignificant.  Its ratings were also very low, even for an HBO show.  So I don't think the cancelation of Deadwood was that surprising at all.

Mad Men, on the other hand is the show that built AMC.  Or, at least as we know it.  It defines AMC.  Just as Sopranos defines HBO.

I still don't think they can cancel it.  I think it would be a huge mistake.  The Wire never had good ratings, even for an HBO show, but HBO knew they had something special.  So they let it finish.

I got my season 4 DVDs in the mail yesterday.  Opening the package was like entering a 12 step program.  I think I might have even signed some divorce papers somewhere in there.

Anyway, AMC's name is all over the packaging for the season set.  It's upsetting that they all can't just get along.  (And I want more Mad Men, damn it.)