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I liked The Hangover. I did. I thought the cast had a fun chemistry, I thought it had a perfect amount of bizarreness, it was a fun movie to see with friends, it was quotable. I looked forward to the second because, come on, the same chemistry should be there, and it seems like they know what's up, so it should be enjoyable.

 

But this. This trailer. It's like they played Mad Libs with the script, and took out all references to Las Vegas. It's like they took the first film and went all MGM Red Dawn on it, only instead of replacing all things Chinese with Korean, they just digitally changed Las Vegas to Taiwan, a tiger to a monkey, and a missing tooth to a tattoo. I knew we were going to get a similar film. I didn't realize we'd get the same film.

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I liked it too. And I'm with you in daring to think hey, "similar but amusingly different" was a feasible option.

 

Considering they got going on this before The Hangover actually hit theaters...oh wait, that doesn't mean anything.

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I assume that Heather Graham dumped Stu, not the other way round. Or she died a noble death giving her life to save others in a hail of gunfire.


 

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But this. This trailer. It's like they played Mad Libs with the script, and took out all references to Las Vegas. It's like they took the first film and went all MGM Red Dawn on it, only instead of replacing all things Chinese with Korean, they just digitally changed Las Vegas to Taiwan, a tiger to a monkey, and a missing tooth to a tattoo. I knew we were going to get a similar film. I didn't realize we'd get the same film.


 

The same film ... but BETTER!

 

For one, Thailand is about a babillion times better setting than Las Vegas. Films set in Vegas that I like, I like in spite of the setting. I hate Las Vegas. If it wasn't the Mecca of boxing and MMA I'd be happy to see it wiped from the Earth.

 

For two, the boring dude from the first film is gone.

 

For three, I like tigers but, c'mon. Monkeys have a shitload* times more personality and screen presence.

 

For four, a missing tooth is nothing. A face tattoo? SOMETHING!

 

And for five, Zach gets an awesome haircut.

 

 

* Sometimes literally.

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I'll probably end up seeing this and laughing a good amount. But I don't know. I guess I'm just not excited for The Hangover Part III where the gang loses Doug's newborn son on the moon, and they're chased by alien gunmen after they find a baby space squid and Ed Helms realizes he chopped his own arm off. 

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All this trailer did was convince me that The Hangover really did not need a sequel.

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I am NEVER onboard a Todd Phillips film until I actually see it, and it ends up actually being funny. Seriously, every movie he does seems to have that slight stench of "you've seen this before" in the marketing and pre-release buzz, and then the movie ends up being way funnier than you could have guessed, usually because of the pacing and performances. So yeah, this was a dumb, unoriginal trailer to a movie that will probably be pretty funny, even though the temptation is to say Todd Phillips makes the same movie every time out.

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All this trailer did was convince me that The Hangover really did not need a sequel.



This.  Even they aren't sure why it's happening again.

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This.  Even they aren't sure why it's happening again.


"How could the same shit happen to the same guy twice!?"

 

Sounds like this could be the Die Hangover II: Die Hangoverer.

 

So what would Die Hangover With A Vengeance be like?

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The Hangover was the perfect comedy for today's generation. Insipid, tepid, uninspired trash that barely raised a smirk on my face. Like I said, it was the perfect comedy for the American Idol/Jersey Shore generation of today. That's why it made 300 million. It was soo bland and played soo broad that it appealed to fucking morons across the board, uniting humanity in a web of mediocrity. Fuck you if you liked that piece of shit and double fuck you if you're looking forward to this like a fucking lab rat waiting for a feeder pellet you fucking plebs. We are literally minutes away from ASS THE MOVIE. 

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The Hangover was the perfect comedy for today's generation. Insipid, tepid, uninspired trash that barely raised a smirk on my face. Like I said, it was the perfect comedy for the American Idol/Jersey Shore generation of today. That's why it made 300 million. It was soo bland and played soo broad that it appealed to fucking morons across the board, uniting humanity in a web of mediocrity. Fuck you if you liked that piece of shit and double fuck you if you're looking forward to this like a fucking lab rat waiting for a feeder pellet you fucking plebs. We are literally minutes away from ASS THE MOVIE. 

Devin? Is this you?

 

The first one was fantastic and it still holds up quite well. Did it need a sequel...no not really. But all things considered you had to know one was coming. Besides...to me at least it felt like it was originally intended to be the sequel to Old School (Cooper=Vaughn, Galifanakis=Farrell, Helms=Wilson).

 

As for the trailer, yeah it makes the movie look almost exactly like the original. But I did laugh. Loved the line in the toast  "this isn't Stews first marriage, a few years ago there was this whore in Las Vegas."

 

I'm looking foreward to to it.

 

 



 

 

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Yeah I don't get the backlash. I don't think the first one really broke new ground, but it was funny and never boring. To say it was "broad" is a bit of a stretch.

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Yeah I don't get the backlash. I don't think the first one really broke new ground, but it was funny and never boring. To say it was "broad" is a bit of a stretch.


I don't know man, I enjoyed it but the scenes with Ken Jeong were broader than Kirsty Alley's thighs.

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All this trailer did was convince me that The Hangover really did not need a sequel.

 

The world needed a new Weekend at Bernie's II.

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BurnInHell's steppin' up the crazy.

 

 

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What is it with trolls and getting super-hyperbolic?

 

I'd like to believe that the carbon-copy sequel is an excuse to surprise us and sneak in some subversive humour. But that doesn't seem likely.

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BurnInHell's steppin' up the crazy.

 

 


Maybe PK's alter ego is just feeding the rage now?
 

 

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Considering the first one was such a gimmick comedy, I don't really mind the sort of retread situation going on here. I mean let's face it, you're watching this (if you're inclined) because the performers are funny. Not because of some amazing feat of epic storytelling to rival David Lean or something.

 

I don't think you can accuse Todd Philips of ever reaching for the stars or anything. The outright crusade of hate against this thing is a bit baffling. But, whatever. I'll have a nice evening with some laughs most likely while other people bite their pillows.

 

The first one was just a decent comedy that made me laugh a lot but that I probably won't revisit for some time. This will likely be the same. I liked the trailer for what it is.

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Considering the first one was such a gimmick comedy, I don't really mind the sort of retread situation going on here. I mean let's face it, you're watching this (if you're inclined) because the performers are funny. Not because of some amazing feat of epic storytelling to rival David Lean or something.

 

 

Oh come on, how hard would it have been to change things up a bit? Phillips is no Judd Apatow, but he's not a bad comedy writer and this seems below even him. I'm just surprised they went for such an obvious retread when the concept is such an open one.

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So what if it looks a lot like the first movie. The first movie worked really well. I'm actually excited about the sequel.

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Oh come on, how hard would it have been to change things up a bit? Phillips is no Judd Apatow, but he's not a bad comedy writer and this seems below even him. I'm just surprised they went for such an obvious retread when the concept is such an open one.


Is it? I mean, to have a sequel to The Hangover (which was a gimmick film), what do you need?

 

a) they get fucked up/drugged/etc.

b) wake up, can't remember what happened

c) piece everything together in "hilarious" ways

 

 

I guess I'm just completely out to lunch on this one. And you know? I don't really care. I just don't know what the hell everyone expected OR why this strikes such an apparent low blow.

 

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I think it's the disproportionate excitement about it in some quarters. And that it basically looks like GHOSTBUSTERS II/MEN IN BLACK II - the first film xeroxed into oblivion. The three things you identify as cores of the film could have been bent and twisted into something much funnier than "these guys can't remember a stag do again and there's an animal and a celebrity cameo and a wacky bit of self-abuse from Ed Helms". It's really lazy.

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I think it's the disproportionate excitement about it in some quarters. And that it basically looks like GHOSTBUSTERS II/MEN IN BLACK II - the first film xeroxed into oblivion. The three things you identify as cores of the film could have been bent and twisted into something much funnier than "these guys can't remember a stag do again and there's an animal and a celebrity cameo and a wacky bit of self-abuse from Ed Helms". It's really lazy.



I certainly can't say it's not lazy. I just didn't expect much, I guess. I mean this seems like exactly the sort of thing Philips does. ESPECIALLY with the rush job it was given.

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Is it? I mean, to have a sequel to The Hangover (which was a gimmick film), what do you need?

 

a) they get fucked up/drugged/etc.

b) wake up, can't remember what happened

c) piece everything together in "hilarious" ways

 

 

And it seems that almost every single thing that happens in this one has an analog in the first flick. That's why comedy sequels hardly ever work, because people don't bother to look out of the box.

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And it seems that almost every single thing that happens in this one has an analog in the first flick. That's why comedy sequels hardly ever work, because people don't bother to look out of the box.


I agree. I think the key here is that I'm not one of these people (though I don't know one, I'm sure they're out there) who thinks the first one is the end-all/be-all of comedy films. It was an enjoyable time at the theater. I laughed. Hard. Haven't watched or thought much of it since.

 

Having said that, I STILL don't get the level of vitriol being aimed at it by people like BurnInHell or certain other writers online. I'd hardly single this film/franchise out as "what's wrong with comedy films today," and that's the only reason I could see taking such steady aim at it like that.

 

And it really gets absurd when you veer into calling people "morons" for enjoying the first and, *gasp*, willingly wanting to watch this one. This isn't "that film."

 

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BurnInHell is like CreepyThinMan's angrier waterbrained cousin, so I'd just ignore what he has to say on the subject.

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BurnInHell is like CreepyThinMan's angrier waterbrained cousin, so I'd just ignore every post he writes.


FIFY.
 

 

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And it seems that almost every single thing that happens in this one has an analog in the first flick. That's why comedy sequels hardly ever work, because people don't bother to look out of the box.



I don't see what's so hard about coming up with a slightly different premise using all three actors.  There used to be a time when comedy teams would do a slew of movies together where they would play different characters in each and have different locales/premises.  That needs to come back.  I would think that a totally different comedy that still starred Cooper, Helms and Zach G would do just as well as a blatant retread.  At least, I hope so.  

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Yeah, that was pretty much my complaint about the trailer. I knew we would get The Hangover Part II, I just thought that it was going to be some crazy antics in Thailand, not the exact same antics in Thailand as in the first. Looks funny, but the whole thing leaves a weird taste in my mouth. 

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You're talkin' a lot of sense Joey.

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I agree. I think the key here is that I'm not one of these people (though I don't know one, I'm sure they're out there) who thinks the first one is the end-all/be-all of comedy films. It was an enjoyable time at the theater. I laughed. Hard. Haven't watched or thought much of it since.

 

Having said that, I STILL don't get the level of vitriol being aimed at it by people like BurnInHell or certain other writers online. I'd hardly single this film/franchise out as "what's wrong with comedy films today," and that's the only reason I could see taking such steady aim at it like that.

 

And it really gets absurd when you veer into calling people "morons" for enjoying the first and, *gasp*, willingly wanting to watch this one. This isn't "that film."

 




Been reading the Badass Digest comments about the trailer, huh?

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Been reading the Badass Digest comments about the trailer, huh?

 

 

Oooooooh noooooo you DI'N'T!!!
 

 

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Been reading the Badass Digest comments about the trailer, huh?

 

Indeed. I don't know, it's totally anecdotal but all I ever really heard was a pretty measured response one way or the other to The Hangover. I don't recall anyone saying it was the greatest thing ever, and I really don't recall anyone saying things like "this is a comedy for morons." Love it or hate it, again, I really disagree that this is "one of those" comedies.

 

I do wish the comedy genre had more to offer each year though. Such as it is, this is STILL going to probably be one of the year's high points, despite being such a formulaic retread.
 

 

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HANGOVER II: IN SPACE would have been great.

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If they were going to do a sequel, how about making it really fucked up, I mean, it’s set in Thailand!?! Have Bradley Cooper wake up and realize that he’s had a sex change operation. His cock and balls are missing and he has a pair of big fake tits in his chest with collagen bloated fish lips and tattooed eyebrows. Zach Galifianakis has no eyes and his tongue has been cut out while Ed Helms has his cock glued in the ass of that monkey while the only clue they have is a snuff film they shot where they raped and mutilated a 12 year old Thai whore.

 

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Been reading the Badass Digest comments about the trailer, huh?



Let's drop this as a critique of comments, ok? Please?

 

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If they were going to do a sequel, how about making it really fucked up, I mean, it’s set in Thailand!?! Have Bradley Cooper wake up and realize that he’s had a sex change operation. His cock and balls are missing and he has a pair of big fake tits in his chest with collagen bloated fish lips and tattooed eyebrows. Zach Galifianakis has no eyes and his tongue has been cut out while Ed Helms has his cock glued in the ass of that monkey while the only clue they have is a snuff film they shot where they raped and mutilated a 12 year old Thai whore.

 

So, Very Bad Things 2: Holy Shit, Even Worse Things.

I honestly kinda thought they would sorta-kinda (loosely) have the vibe you described, but this seems pretty safe and friendly. Perhaps the really upsetting stuff couldn't be sold in the trailer? You make a quarter of a billion in America on an R-rated comedy, maybe this time around you try to out-bleak Jody Hill in the comedy wars.

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I'm watching The Hangover on HBO right now, and watching that trailer just now makes it very, very clear to me that if this wasn't a bad idea monetarily, it was certainly a bad one creatively. The teaser excited me, but this full trailer counters that tenfold.

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Hollywood pumps out an unimaginative comedy sequel to capitalise on a surprise hit - news at eleven.

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The teaser excited me, but this full trailer counters that tenfold.

I was honestly a little surprised at how quickly the small amount of interest I had from the teaser diminished after I watched the trailer.

 

And maybe I'm being an old man here but since when was it allowable to say "whores", "bitches" and have boner jokes in a green-band trailer?
 

 

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The Hangover isn't very good, but there are a couple of excellent performances and some funny stuff. It obviously didn't deserve the cultural saturation it got, but at the same time it isn't awful and the backlash is needless.

 

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I am NEVER onboard a Todd Phillips film until I actually see it, and it ends up actually being funny. Seriously, every movie he does seems to have that slight stench of "you've seen this before" in the marketing and pre-release buzz, and then the movie ends up being way funnier than you could have guessed, usually because of the pacing and performances. So yeah, this was a dumb, unoriginal trailer to a movie that will probably be pretty funny, even though the temptation is to say Todd Phillips makes the same movie every time out.

I'm completely the opposite. His films generally have great casts and strong not-too high concept premises and I generally want to see them in the hope that they'll be good. The problem is they are bland and predictable and never, ever come close to being the sum of their parts.
 

He's no different to Jay Roach or Shaun Levy, just his films are more 'risque' and 'adult' - read boobs and swearing.

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I don't get the backlash against the first one or the pre-emptive hate against this. It's not that I'm expecting to be anywhere near as fun as the first one but I went into that too with the lowest of expectations. I'm open and welcoming to positive surprises. Worst case scenario, I'll pretend I'm gay and ogle Cooper. Throw a couple of wolf whistles too. Make people uncomfortable.

 

I laughed at the monkey fake-blowing the old guy on the bus though. It's true what Zach said. It's funny in every language.

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I think the backlash is due to the fact the first one is hailed as one of the greatest comedies of this generation, or a defining comedy of the generation.  I'm pretty sure I read that here, in fact.  Its also the most succesful r-rated comedy.

 

And in reality its a fairly terrible film.  Theres no story really, other than a half baked idea.  Its just a bunch of cliched toilet humor and random wackiness.  

 

 

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I think the backlash is due to the fact the first one is hailed as one of the greatest comedies of this generation, or a defining comedy of the generation.  I'm pretty sure I read that here, in fact.  Its also the most succesful r-rated comedy.

 

And in reality its a fairly terrible film.  Theres no story really, other than a half baked idea.  Its just a bunch of cliched toilet humor and random wackiness.  

 

 

 

It's the good old amnesiac quest trope grafted onto the good old men being boys trope but everyone loves Zach so, soooooo much (including me) and he had some nice comedic chemistry with Helms and Cooper. I think it's just that they made these dudes so damn likable and threw in a curve or two like Tyson and ... ok, just the one curve, but a lot of people loved taking the ride of that film. There's not much new in there but they pulled it off in a (relatively) fresh way (ie, not the Apatow way).

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"The comedy classic of this generation". If that's how The Hangover is viewed then it's a fucking sad indication of how low our society has fallen. Growing up, some of my favorite comedies were Animal House, Vacation, Caddyshack, Meatballs etc...can anyone here say that The Hangover compares to those? I don't think so. Christ, it's not even the funniest comedy of it's type, that would be Bachelor Party and there was NOTHING in Hangover that topped that for outright hilarity.



Maybe I'm just getting old (32 fyi) but I re-watched Hangover just to be sure that I wasn't being a miserable old fucker but, no, the movie is nothing more then mildly amusing. Crank 2 was funnier then The Hangover and that was an action movie. 

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I don't know if I'd call The Hangover "terrible". I actually quite enjoyed it when I went to see it in the theaters, but it's not a comedy that you can watch over and over again. So much on the film's humor relies on shock value and the audience being just as surprised as the characters as they start discovering what they did the night before. A nude Ken Jeong launching out of a car trunk while brandishing a tire iron is never going to be as funny if you know it's coming.

 

That being said, I can completely understand why the movie just never worked for some people, but I feel like some of the backlash against it has more to do with certain segments of the audience, mostly the dumb teenagers/frat boys, who overpraised and over-quoted the movie until you can't think about the movie without also thinking about that bro who thinks he's the first person to wear a "One Man Wolfpack" t-shirt out to the bars.

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It's fashionable to hate on Hangover, I am not saying it was great, it was mildly amusing with some good laughs. But when you mix in the fact that most comedy is dreadful, predictable and has this over-riding PC sensibility that you feel you are watching an afterschool special, the hangover seems hi-fooking-larious in comparison. Just the a couple of the bits, masterbaiting baby, 'I am not allowed near schools' and the blowjob in the elevator were such a breath of fresh air, that the movie earned good will from the public at large.

 

Is Galafinakus the second coming of Bill Murray? no of course not, but the beats the hell out of Steve Carrell and Russel Brand.

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Is Galafinakus the second coming of Bill Murray? no of course not, but the beats the hell out of Steve Carrell and Russel Brand.


That's harsh on Carrell. Before he starting taking every big paycheck offered he was excellent in a lot of things and is obviously very talented (unfortunately I think getting his break when he was already in his mid-40s and married with kids made him favour commercial certainties over art).

 

I love Zach, but he's been a lot of crap himself.

post #49 of 82

I will not hear a fucking word against Carrell. The mans talent is a deep well. Galifinakis is a one trick pony next to him.

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Yeah, Carrell's a really great comedic talent, and now that he's done some big pay check stuff and his Office schedule is clear, I can't wait to see some of the projects he takes on.

 

Galifinakis seems to be a funny guy who just really isn't afraid to go anywhere. Not necessarily in terms of content (he's no Louis CK) but he's cultivated a persona based on being able to stretch a concept to an uncomfortably funny point, and I have to respect him for that.

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