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Constantine (2005)

post #1 of 20
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Still really like this, I get that it's divergent from the Hellblazer comic books but I think the tone and style of the film are great. In fact not having the film fawning over the comics continuity allows it to harvest the best ideas of the comic without being beholden to it, the result is a fun, and genuinely creepy, supernatural action film. Reeves isn't always the best of actors, but he always gives things 100%. He gives Constantine a great agitated energy and plays the character as just generally fatigued by the world he finds himself in. He's got a lot of presence in the film and he's helped by a supporting cast who are fantastic.

 

Gavin Rossdale and Tilda Swinton in particular are great as a snidey demon and conflict arch-angel. I kind of love Swinton in the role, because she's probably the closest you'll ever get to a live action anime character. Her entire attitude and nature are wonderfully conflicted, her desire to see humanity be better than itself combined with a brutal knowledge of what needs to be done. She's antagonistic and nurturing at the same time, genuinely pleased for Constantine when he becomes a better man even though he's just foiled they're plan.

 

Peter Stormare almost steals the show with his brief screentime. His variant on the devil is probably in my top three satanic performances (up there with Viggo Mortenesen and Peter Cook) and he gives the character a fantastic energy. It's one of those movies where I would have loved to have seen the series continue, just because the world created was so fascinating and Francis Lawrence demonstrated a fantastic cinematic eye.

post #2 of 20

I've seen this a few times, thinking I'd eventually sour on it but it's still great. It's probably the only film in recent memory that properly exudes the epic pulpiness that so many graphic novels have. I love that we're just thrown into the middle of Constantine's world and are given very minimal explanation as to who's who or how anything works.

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I've seen this a few times, thinking I'd eventually sour on it but it's still great. It's probably the only film in recent memory that properly exudes the epic pulpiness that so many graphic novels have. I love that we're just thrown into the middle of Constantine's world and are given very minimal explanation as to who's who or how anything works.


There are a few moments where the film tries to throw a bone to the audience (Weisz dopily exclaiming 'Sulphur' when they go to the hospital in the finale) but I kind of admire how hands off it is in explaining things. You either get with the programme, or you don't. 

post #4 of 20

Agreed with both of you on this. Didn't really care for it the first time, as the pacing seemed slightly "off".....but from the second viewing on, I became a big fan. I dig the weirdness and vaugness of the whole thing. Reeves' delivery threw me at first, but now I've come around to this being one of his better roles. Being a bush fan (I know i know), I dug Rossdale's sleezball demon as well. I'll always hope for a sequel...though I know it'll never come.

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There are a few moments where the film tries to throw a bone to the audience (Weisz dopily exclaiming 'Sulphur' when they go to the hospital in the finale) but I kind of admire how hands off it is in explaining things. You either get with the programme, or you don't. 

 

One of my favourite bits is near the end when he rolls up his sleeves, gives this "shit just got real" look and brings the 2 tats on his arms together, causing Swinton to appear. I STILL have no idea what the fuck that was about.

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One of my favourite bits is near the end when he rolls up his sleeves, gives this "shit just got real" look and brings the 2 tats on his arms together, causing Swinton to appear. I STILL have no idea what the fuck that was about.


I think he's got two halves of a Tetragrammaton drawn on his arms, I think he's trying to push Weisz' soul into heaven. I could be wrong.

post #7 of 20

Really fun movie, and so beautiful to look at. It is sad that there aren't more of these, and also surprising. Did it bomb really bad?

 

Reeves was entirely convincing as a life-weary guy who knows more than you, and it is a rare Keanu Reeves performance where I find him completely believable. Rossdale was good, and his appearance here made me think it's kind of too bad he's not in more films. I agree that Swinton was an absolute perfect choice for her role. Hounsou was actually lively for once. Weisz was beautiful but otherwise contributed little. Sometimes that's ok. Stormare sucked, as he sucks in just about everything I've seen him in. God his overacting is unbearable, especially because FARGO showed that he's got incredible presence and just needs the right direction (i.e. "Shut the fuck up").

post #8 of 20

Definitely one of the better comic adaptations. It's a really handsome film with crazy high re-watchability. It's flaws mostly lie within it's mass audience placations but it succeeds greatly in capturing that Moore/Gaiman/Morrison world & tone.

post #9 of 20

I've only really seen the film once, but I LOVE the intensity of Keanu's tattoo combining move.  It definitely has that pulpy feel.  Other than that, I don't recall much.  I remember cracking up hard at his final finger to Stomare.

post #10 of 20

It's the Red King actually.  And he was trying to get Gabriel to appear.  "Into the light I command you" and all that.
 

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I think he's got two halves of a Tetragrammaton drawn on his arms, I think he's trying to push Weisz' soul into heaven. I could be wrong.



 

post #11 of 20

I always liked the music.

And that hell is just an unusually hot LA.

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It's the Red King actually.  And he was trying to get Gabriel to appear.  "Into the light I command you" and all that.
 

Funnybone Powers ACTIVATE!

 

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post #13 of 20

Constantine will forever be an under-appreciated film. I remember seeing it for a dollar as part of some odd, unexplainable event that was taking place at cinema I happened upon by chance. Since then it has appeared on TV a multitude of times and when I can catch it, I do find myself watching it.

post #14 of 20

Wow, really expected this thread to be a hate-fest, pleased to see it isn't. More than anything, this movie is a good argument for Reeves as a physical actor rather than an internal actor. I just like watching him move around in this movie, he's very spindly and spider-like, whether he's trying to stomp/kick that bug demon thing or just using his lighter. 

post #15 of 20

Yeah, I don't love the film but I like it a lot more than most people seem to.

post #16 of 20

I'm definitely on board the love train for this one, though I wish they would have left the Chaz character out as I feel he drags things down a little too much.  I understand that he's there to serve as something of an audience surrogate, giving us information on the characters and the world, but he's just so awful and annoying.  The exposition comes out as clunky and overbearing, and The Beef is simply incapable of delivering it naturally.  Otherwise, I really dig this one a lot, and wish we would have gotten at least one sequel.

post #17 of 20

I really like this movie except for two things. The rest is pretty great, like Tilda Swinton as Gabriel and especially Stormare as Lucifer. The black stuff dripping off of him always creeps me out, but I hate....

 

1) Constantine popping the gum at the end instead of lighting up

 

2) Shia as Chas.

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I really like this movie except for two things. The rest is pretty great, like Tilda Swinton as Gabriel and especially Stormare as Lucifer. The black stuff dripping off of him always creeps me out, but I hate....

 

1) Constantine popping the gum at the end instead of lighting up

 

 

Yup, I love 90% of Constantine & this bit is particularly groan inducing. It's a mis-characterization on par with Batman non-chalantly killing people in Burton's Batman flicks.

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I wish they would have left the Chaz character out as I feel he drags things down a little too much.  I understand that he's there to serve as something of an audience surrogate, giving us information on the characters and the world, but he's just so awful and annoying.  The exposition comes out as clunky and overbearing, and The Beef is simply incapable of delivering it naturally.  

I don't know it doesn't bother me because he is barely in it. I just watched this again last night and I was suprised how little he is in it. There is the very brief bit at the start with the cab. He appears again VERY briefly at the club. Then he is there at the end yet still kind of brief. The most he is on camera is during the exorcising the devil's kid out scene where he is promptly killed so they can get to the showdown with Gabriel and Lucifer. If you cut all of his scenes you would lose what like 5 minutes? 

 

God knows they completely cut out michelle monaghan who actually had a cool subplot. Constantine was "seeing" her once in a while even though she was a demon. He even asks her if she can talk to her boss. Shes actually the first one to to tell him "your the one soul he would come up himself to get" which of course is why he says "so I keep hearing" when Midnight repeats that line the first time they meet at the club. Shame really because it adds even more grey to Constantine and how he feels about the rules of heaven and hell.

 

post #20 of 20

I really dig the film, but it's one that I think the parts are greater than the sum. Saw it in the theater, was kind of meh on it, but it's grown on me since. I sure watch it every time it's on cable, if I can. Never read the comics, so I was free of the nerd rage that seemed to fill some on the changes made for the film. I thought Reeves was great casting for the part as written, and Tilda Swinton also perfectly cast as the insanely misguided Gabriel.

 

The mythology seems a bit iffy or contradictory, regarding "half breeds", angels and demons, and what they're allowed to do and where they're allowed to go. Regardless, I dig this kind of theological horror and there are some neat details in the script that surprised (Gabriel chiding Constantine that it's grace, not works, that gives salvation, frex). And Stormare as Satan is just brilliant casting and a dark joy to behold.

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