SEE NO EVIL IN THE RISE OF THE PLANET OF THE APES TRAILER

Damn.

This was nowhere near my radar & I've ZERO interest in POTA but, holy sh*t, that looks un-flipping-believable & genuinely terrifying.

Kind of a Cronenberg-ian reimagining of the franchise. The sleeper tentpole of the summer, perhaps?

I sort of love that final shot of Caesar.

It is a pretty eerie shot.

I'm mad there are no orangutans!

Movie seems like it might be cool, but Franco looks Wahlberg-in-the-Happening bad. Some people should not play scientists.

That shot of the gorilla bursting through the doors looked like WETA reused some of their KING KONG footage. Besides that I liked the trailer a lot, it had a really interesting and eery vibe which I hope will be in the movie (as opposed to awesome monkeys smash up things, jump into CGI helicopters and scare people)

At least we're guaranteed a downer ending right? It's not like Franco can save the day with some deus ex machina cure for the apes new found intelligence

Looks awesome.

Tangentially... can we have an official ban on movies with 'Rise' in the title?

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Originally Posted by Evi 

Movie seems like it might be cool, but Franco looks Wahlberg-in-the-Happening bad. Some people should not play scientists.

That's MIGHTY harsh. No-one should ever be compared to Wahlberg in THE HAPPENING until you've a)seen the entire performance in question and b)established that the actor hasn't suffered some kind of embolism or other debilitating affliction.

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Originally Posted by Evi 

Movie seems like it might be cool, but Franco looks Wahlberg-in-the-Happening bad. Some people should not play scientists.

I wouldn't go that far. Maybe Wahlberg-in-Planet-Of-The-Apes bad.

I still like Franco though (and Wahlberg for that matter), and this seems like it could be a lot of creepy fun.

You know, before that trailer I had no interest in the movie at all. Now I've got a good amount. So I guess it succeeded in that way. Looks like it could sneak up and be quite good actually. And the apes look incredible. Good job WETA.

That's a pretty great trailer. Which means nothing for the quality of the actual movie, but my interest is piqued.

The last shot was damn eerie. Let's see if Fox can sidestep its own usual fuckery with this one.

ETA: Just watched it again. I swear I can see similarities between digital Caesar and McDowell's prosthetic version. Nicely done.

So this looks good, but I don't mind admitting I'm a little confused.

Is this a prequel to Burtons remake or the start of a new franchise - and if it is the start of an all together new Apes series why have they used the font from Burtons remake in the title?

Also, am I the only person who finds the title a touch... cumbersome?

I don't know, most of the trailer seemed unintentionally hilarious. Franco doing a bad Jeffrey Combs impression + gorilla staring at couple sleeping in bed = chuckles. I do like the menace of the last shot, though.

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Originally Posted by The Rain Dog 

So this looks good, but I don't mind admitting I'm a little confused.

 

Is this a prequel to Burtons remake or the start of a new franchise - and if it is the start of an all together new Apes series why have they used the font from Burtons remake in the title?

 

Also, am I the only person who finds the title a touch... cumbersome?

I believe it's a reboot, but I'll bet it's not entirely clear, so Fox can hedge its bets. (If it's successful, they'll call it a reboot. If it's not, they'll call it prequel.) The font is something to give visual continuity - it's either the same font from the original series or something close to it. All about branding, my friend.

Title is cumbersome, but see the above remarks re: branding.
 

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Originally Posted by Kriegaffe 

Looks awesome.

 

Tangentially... can we have an official ban on movies with 'Rise' in the title?

Does that go for pornos as well?

So good...

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Originally Posted by The Rain Dog 

So this looks good, but I don't mind admitting I'm a little confused.

 

Is this a prequel to Burtons remake or the start of a new franchise - and if it is the start of an all together new Apes series why have they used the font from Burtons remake in the title?

 

Also, am I the only person who finds the title a touch... cumbersome?

Well in all honesty, Both burton's remake and the original films used basically the same font.

Also while caesar himself is really cool, The other apes probably need another rendering pass to make their fur lighting a bit better. Also I am of the sound opinion that practical always beats cgi and mixture of practical and cgi beats both. So looking at the rather awesome (male) ape make up in Burton's film, which greatly overshadows the rest of the movie, I always scratch my head when movie studios go completely cgi.

That said, I am cautious of this film, as it is FOX, who have frequently proven that they don't understand Sci-Fi and only see it as a franchise potential.

All praise to Franco and WETA, but I wish we could go a year without a movie that's built around the "Beware the Dangers of the Wonder Drug/Treatment" trope. That shitty trope gets paraded and wrung out to dry at least twice a year.

Alternate title:   28 APES LATER

I'll be honest and admit that, usually, James Franco does nothing for me as a dramatic actor. 127 hours is the first time I've been able to take him seriously in a serious role. I don't "hate" him, I just find him distractingly/humorously unconvincing when he emotes. That said, this looks better than I thought it'd be, and I'll hope that 127 hours-Franco shows up again.

Looks like Fox's remake of THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL.

I still don't get just how the hell the apes are supposed to overtrhow us. Will there be a nuclear war in this one too?

This looks like so much fun. Big surprise. Either this is going to be great, or so awesomely hilarious it will be just as great. 

Armies of apes! This is what CGI should be used for.

Interbreeding with the sexier apes. BAM. Before you know it, we're in the minority.

I imagine the first thing that Cesar does in his rebellion is send a bunch of other smart apes to get to sexing at the local zoo?
 

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Originally Posted by Andrew Merriweather 

Interbreeding with the sexier apes. BAM. Before you know it, we're in the minority.

Deep Blue Apes!  I'm in, looks fun, and looks a little creepy.  That shot of the ape looking at the two sleeping in bed gave me the shivers. 

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That shot of the ape looking at the two sleeping in bed gave me the shivers. 

I will be the first to ask that this monkey to be referred to as the Rape Ape.

that would be a good ending.  all the apes are killed, and the women in the bed goes into labor, and gives birth to Robin Williams.

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Originally Posted by Trevor 

All praise to Franco and WETA, but I wish we could go a year without a movie that's built around the "Beware the Dangers of the Wonder Drug/Treatment" trope. That shitty trope gets paraded and wrung out to dry at least twice a year.

The pharmaceutical companies must be funding these cinematic morality tales. They don't want any Wonder Drugs gumming up their business. ;) See also: I AM LEGEND.

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Originally Posted by Park Chan-wookie 

I will be the first to ask that this monkey to be referred to as the Rape Ape.

 

That puts the "Rise of the Apes" title in a whole new context.

I pretty much love it as a teaser. Unless the full trailer or reviews say it shits the bed. I'm on board.

Really like what I'm seeing here.   If there's one thing that worries me, it's whether or not the Apes in this version start talking and if so, how that's handled?   If the movie sticks to canon, I think the rebellion started when Caesar said "no" to his human captors which can be awesome.   Anything beyond that would be a little silly.   Maybe sign language will be how apes communicate in this film for more complex dialogue?    I just don't see full on complex English working in this iteration of the story.

I totally forgot about this until I saw the bedroom footage...

And Caesar looks good, but it's still lacking that tactile something:

As soon as the first of what felt like eighty cliche lines surfaced (kind of a blockbuster mandate), I was off-board. C'mon, guys, you really don't need to make it seem like you get all these scripts from the same computer.

"You have NO IDEA what you're dealing with!"

That being said, the Tim Burton version was so awful that I honestly said to myself, No more movies for awhile. I need a break for a couple of weeks. The damn thing broke my faith in movies for a short while. It's gonna take a fuckload of convincing to get me in the theater for this.

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"You have NO IDEA what you're dealing with!"

I kinda miss the cliche lines from the nuclear age "This goes against EVERY NATURAL LAW!"

"We're going to name this drug, The Cure."

/shocked gasps.

I'm not feeling this too much.

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"We're going to name this drug, The Cure."

Woo-hoo!

I was actually throwing out an Xtacles reference (someone has to), but that article is pretty great.

Perhaps a Rapier Ape will show up in the sequel.

glad to see Weta thinking "green" and reusing footage from King Kong.  Al Gore would be proud!

Kind of bummed that Estella Warren's jaw didn't get a part in this film.

I could get on board a little easier had they stuck to the conceit of a pet-killing plague that leads to simians as pets cum slaves (let's face it, if your dog could do menial tasks you would waste no time using them in that capacity).  It's no less far fetched than yet another "(fill in the blank) runs amok" storyline and fosters a natural progression to an ape revolution. 

This doesn't seem to generate a truly appropriate context for a sincere revolt.  The comparisons to 28 DAYS LATER, PROJECT X, I ROBOT and even I AM LEGEND (never mind the stepsister flicks like FOOD OF THE GODS...and BUG...and HUMANOIDS FROM THE DEEP) are unfortunately pretty apt here.  It's a lazy trope that has achieved a kind of 'required' status as a quick way to get a narrative from point A to point B with a minimum of effort.  If they're gonna use this trope over and over, use the damn thing for a live action RATS OF N.I.M.H. film at least.

Of course, I'm not a highly paid Hollywood screenwriter. 

Agreed. This trailer definitely had a zombie movie feel to it.

While I thought most of it looked "eh", i DID love that bit where he gives Caesar a treat, and it comes right back with palm open and that little "MORE TREATS FUCKER" twitch. THAT had a creepy vibe to it.

This did nothing for me at all.

Why do we need this film?

Looks alright, but frankly this "explanatory" angle is not doing it for me.  Some stories should retain their mystique without needing these origins.

Also, some actors were never meant to portray scientists, and Franco does nothing for me in this ("...THE CURE..." *gasp*).  I was reading a set report interview that he conducted with Collider, and he said that his character arc is going from a "cold, isolated, scientific man" to a "caring and a humane" one.  Seems like this movie is going to incorporate the same tired themes about the cold scientist, his hubris and subsequent humanizing.  Yawn.

If anything the arc should be reversed. "I tried to be human, to be nice to those apes. Fuck that, SCIENCE ALL THE WAY. MAN THE LASERS"

At least Adrien Brody and Sarah Polley are no longer the least convincing couple of biomedical scientists in film history.

Oh come on guys, Franco may not be your first choice for a brainiac, but he's hardly Dr.Christmas Jones.

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Originally Posted by Jeb 

At least Adrien Brody and Sarah Polley are no longer the least convincing couple of biomedical scientists in film history.

I had no problem with the casting of SPLICE. None.
 

Also, am I the only person who finds Caesars face and expressions a little too human for a chimp that doesn't have anywhere near the amount of facial muscles we do? Like he belongs more in a Basement Jaxx film clip?

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Originally Posted by Kriegaffe 

Looks awesome.

 

Tangentially... can we have an official ban on movies with 'Rise' in the title?

Same goes for 'Origin'.  My personal vote....

Dawn of the Planet of the Apes

It says the same thing, but is at least somewhat less cliched.

Given the arc that Franco outlined for his character and her lines in the trailer, it looks like Pinto is going to be the "humane, warm" scientist who tries in vain to convince her partner about the dignity of the animals.  Of course, she's proven right at the end and he develops a bond with the animals that breaks his hard, cold, scientific shell.  Hell, even Cox's character, briefly glimpsed with his Avatar-esque dialogue, is going to be the hard, cold businessman who doesn't give a shit about those darn apes.

Yeah, this is going to be one of those "Well, the story was really shit, but man those effects were awesome" films  Mark my words.

Here's the thing: the arcs are well-worn, but there's the interesting KING KONG-like dichotomy of the apes being as vicious and monstrous as they are. This isn't just going to be "poor, misunderstood apes turning against the masters that tortured them". So while you can see from a mile away the Franco/Pinto/Cox relationships and how they will resolve themselves, there's enough back-and-forth between the wrongness of humanity and the untameable nature of the animals to possibly make this a worthwhile narrative.

Plus, even without that, the crew involved in this are good enough to tell a rote story in supremely engaging fashion.

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Originally Posted by The Rain Dog 

Also, am I the only person who finds Caesars face and expressions a little too human for a chimp that doesn't have anywhere near the amount of facial muscles we do? Like he belongs more in a Basement Jaxx film clip?

I read that they based him on the original "Humanzee," Oliver. Have you ever seen that thing? Granted he was ruled to be a normal chimpanzee, not an actual hybrid, but still.