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Marion Cotillard is your idea of a classic blonde bombshell?

Okay, then.
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EYEROLLING YOU SO HARD, SCHWARTZ.

 

Headey's not blond, either. This isn't about hair color.

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"Classic blonde bombshells ...." ....Overlord nods, liking where this conversation is heading .... "....Marion Cottilard ...."  ..... Overlord feels confused.

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It's not just hair color. Cotillard also had a pronounced accent that would clash with the rest of her "family" and while beautiful, also has a distinctive facial "imperfection" that...complicates her look, I guess? She's just not what your description called to mind at all.

But I'm also a hardcore Headey partisan, so I'd not stand for your heresy no matter who you suggested.
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Stop trying to make Cotillard happen.

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Yeah, I can see why no one would think Cotillard could pull off the bombshell look.

 

 

And you guys are talking about hair color and accents? As if Peter Dinklage's accent in any way matches Charles Dances which in no way matches Nikolaj Coster-Waldau's.

 

And Emilia Clarke really does have silver hair!

 

I can totally see why my idea for Cotillard would break willing suspension of disbelief!

 

:P

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Stop trying to make Cotillard happen.

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You're the one who wants to replace one of the best performances on the show to better match the image in your head with an actress that is a worse fit for what you describe, bucko. I don't think the burden of proof is on those of us that like what we have.
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...... I don't think the burden of proof ...

 

I come here to get away from that shit, counselor.  

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Worse fit is a subjective, purely speculative call. I think Rosamund Pike would've been an excellent Cersei.

 

But we have Headey. She's claimed the role. I've accepted it, and I enjoy her performance. 

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I come here to get away from that shit, counselor.  

You can always demand trial by combat. I'll just pick nooj as my champion, though.
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Yeah, I can see why no one would think Cotillard could pull off the bombshell look.

 

 

And you guys are talking about hair color and accents? As if Peter Dinklage's accent in any way matches Charles Dances which in no way matches Nikolaj Coster-Waldau's.

 

And Emilia Clarke really does have silver hair!

 

I can totally see why my idea for Cotillard would break willing suspension of disbelief!

 

:P

It's always weird to see Clarke's big beautiful brown eye brows and then this golden blonde hair.  Not that I'm complaining she rocks the look, but aesthetics on this show have long been kind of "eh fuck it."  Especially with the two Lannister boys being brunettes now.  

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They shouldn't have even tried with Dinklage. Book Tyrion has mismatched eyes, nearly white hair, and we all know how fucked up his face is post-Blackwater.

 

I am glad they just stopped frosting his hair, though. And with NCW's hair shorn pretty short, they don't need to worry about it.

 

But yeah. The dark eyebrows are pretty funny. I always mock the elves in PJ's LOTR films for having them.

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I didn't even notice it in LOTR!  Fuck.  

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AGHHHHH NOOOOO

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So engaging in my semi-daily bored persual of clickbait articles, I happened upon the bit of trivia that one of the contenders for the Cersei role was Tricia Helfer.  Also, apparently Jamie Bamber auditioned for Jaime Lannister.

 

And now I'm stuck imagining an alternate reality where BSG alums are playing the Lannister twins.

 

(No, I don't think it would be as good...much love for the actors but they're not as skilled at their craft as Headey and Coster-Waldau...but Helfer definitely looks closer to what I'd have imagined book-Cersei to look like)

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Helfer would've been a good choice! I don't know Bamber (I haven't seen BSG.)

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Bamber's good. My first chice for Rick Grimes in TWD.
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Helfer is the first suggestion I've heard for Cersei that I could actually see pulling it off.  But I think Yvonne Strahoski could have done better, after having watched her in The Handsmaid's Tale.

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Haven't watch The Handmaid's Tale, but I'm sufficiently impressed by other work of hers that I can concur.  She would have been too young in 2011, though.

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Hang on. Wasn't she the girl in Chuck?

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She was, yes.

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Hahahaha Book Six is never coming out and he'll never finish this series:

 

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According to Martin, Fire and Blood will be a compilation of his “fake histories of the Targaryen kings,” with the first volume covering the history of Westeros from Aegon’s Conquest all the way through Aegon III. Most of it will consist of sidebars Martin wrote for The World of Ice and Fire, along with new chapters and expanded notes.

 

In a series of comments on his post, which talked about this year’s Hugo Awards, Martin said Fire and Blood’s first volume is nearly finished and has a “planned” 2018 release date. Unfortunately, this means the next official book in the ASoIaF series, The Winds of Winter, is still nowhere to be found. But we do have a better idea of when we should expect it.

 

According to Martin, The Winds of Winter will come out between the first and second volumes of Fire and Blood. But since he would only confirm a planned 2018 release date for Fire and Blood, we’re guessing this means Winter won’t arrive until 2019 at the earliest.

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Meanwhile, the guys writing the Expanse books, with plenty of political intrigue and quite a few characters, started in 2011 and have been putting one out EVERY YEAR without fail!

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Meanwhile, the guys writing the Expanse books, with plenty of political intrigue and quite a few characters, started in 2011 and have been putting one out EVERY YEAR without fail!

 

One of whom is GRR Martins personal assistant. A man who is in no danger of being overworked with loading the printer with toner or FedEx'ing a manuscript to the publisher.

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That looks to me like they're probably angling to try to drop the book a month or so before the final season hits.  Marketing synergy and all that.

 

That's NOT me claiming Martin's got it in the bag, just that even if he WERE finished (or close enough to it) at this point I could easily see the publisher and HBO conspiring to do just that.

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Zero chance WoW comes out during his life.
Everything he had released, could have been completed as part of Dance (he said he had material he left out that he was putting in Winds)

We'll probably get these in 10 to 15 years. After he dies, the rights will be sold off and a few authors will put together his notes and pump out books 6 and 7 within 19 months.
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Meanwhile, the guys writing the Expanse books, with plenty of political intrigue and quite a few characters, started in 2011 and have been putting one out EVERY YEAR without fail!

 

Those guys are amazing and you can see that they actually planned out the beginning, middle and the end of the series as well.

 

I think GRRM has truly given up on finishing the actual series at this point.

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The Expanse is also something of a comparable series since there is a TV series adaptation as well.

 

No way A Song of Ice and Fire is finished before Martin passes.

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His heart isn't in it anymore. The books don't interest him.

I think once this became a giant hit that Everyone and their grandma was watching, it died for him.

Remember the South Park with the Pokemon toys? The parents broke the kids love for them by becoming fans themselves. I think we are seeing this with George.
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I really don't think it's anything that emotional or philosophic. We know when the wheels fell off the carriage: after Book Three. There was a five year gap between Storm of Swords and Feast for Crows, and the latter was effectively only half a book with even less than that amount of actual plot.

 

Martin's admitted he's not a planner or outliner; he knows how he wants to end the series but never really outlined how to get there. I think it's less that he doesn't care and more that his own weaknesses as a writer created this towering monster he doesn't know how to bring into line.....so he just does other shit or he keeps making it bigger.

 

The amount of wasted pages, plot, and characters in Dance with Dragons is ridiculous for a book that should've started pointing everyone toward the conclusion of the series.

 

I think Martin's an inveterate tinkerer and worldbuilder, and the idea of finishing the series daunts him and just doesn't appeal. Plus he's not a disciplined writer. So he lets himself get distracted by shiny objects.

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But he seems annoyed during any presser. I just see him as a person a little annoyed that he is a celebrity now.

If he can't focus or reign in the story, he should ask for some help. Or at the very least, sit down and figure out the story. The gardening method of writing creates issues like mentioned in books 4 and 5.

I think part of the issue is how convoluted the story is now. The entire Dorne plot and mummers dragon. Disguised babies, fake burnings, betrayed leaders, fake Sansas, fake Targarians, too many horns.....

He's created a mess imo
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