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post #51 of 169

The movie was NUTS. And the post-credit scene brought the house down.

post #52 of 169

I really hope that this movie is truly that good so that people will stop side-eyeing me when I talk about how much I love this franchise.

post #53 of 169

The Vin Diesel/Rock fight and final heist are worth the price of admission by themselves.


 

post #54 of 169
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These two words will probably provoke a lot of excited hooting and hollering this weekend:

"I'm in."

post #55 of 169

They certainly did at the Arclight tonight.


 

post #56 of 169
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I got a rush just remembering that scene. It's such a badass reveal.

post #57 of 169

Probably the best of the series. But also the silliest.

 

-Nothing Dwayne Johnson does EVER makes sense.

-His sweaty staredowns with Vin Diesel were BEYOND EROTIC. The audience LOVED THEM.

-Their slugfest makes no sense considering professionals with guns are just standing around them, letting The Rock get his ass kicked.

-The girls in this movie... I don't wanna be that guy, but DAYUM.

-When you do these heist movies, you want banter and laughs. And the oil-and-vinegar pairing of Ludacris and Tyrese ain't exactly Hope and Crosby.

-Seriously. These guys must have killed thousands of innocents. "Did you guys just take out a bank? HA HA" says the pregnant one.

-I had a difficult time ascertaining anyone's motivation, and I wasn't sure why everyone was so gung-ho on an obviously impossible mission. The crew is borderline supernatural how they pull these things off. There are about seven or so bonafide stunts in this film that would kill a normal person. No one even breaks an arm.

-People who love continuity will LOVE this.

-Speaking of, the end-credits bit was disappointing. Was kind of expecting an eyepatch-wearing Cole Hauser to be giving instructions to Frank Martin or something. It's yet another shot-on-lunch-break bonus scene using a publicity photo of someone special to establish them as a presence somewhere else. But it's cool.

-Grossest poop scene I've ever seen in a PG-13 rated movie. If this were an indie, surely it would have gotten an R. It gets Trainspotting up in this bitch for like five minutes.

-The Asian dude gets the girl. SCORE.

-Loved the henchman who would never ever ever die. I remember the fuzzy-looking attack in the favelas, bodies and cars everywhere, multiple grenades and such. And at the end, when everyone walks away from piles of bodies, the henchman walks in, holding a gun, angry/sad, in theory angry that he didn't get our men, but looking like he JUST purchased the shirt he was wearing.

-Paul Walker ages well. I would like to meet his trainer. Jordana Brewester doesn't. I would not.

-Love the idea of this turning into a heist franchise. And if Justin Lin stays on, even better. But let's get some new blood in the crew, please. Tego Calderon has a dog-face.

post #58 of 169

http://www.theonion.com/video/today-now-interviews-the-5yearold-screenwriter-of,20188/

 

Pretty funny, but can't snuff out my enthusiasm for this one.

post #59 of 169

I've been looking forward to this ever since my friend told me they got a lot of the same stunt guys that worked on PM Entertainment's "Rage".  Glad to hear it doesn't disappoint.

post #60 of 169
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I've been looking forward to this ever since my friend told me they got a lot of the same stunt guys that worked on PM Entertainment's "Rage".  Glad to hear it doesn't disappoint.


 Holy obscure, Batman.
 

 

post #61 of 169

Heh, yeah, it's not that it's a good movie so much as that it has some awesome over-the-top action, and, in particular, a pretty spectacular car chase.

post #62 of 169

This movie is absolute dog shit.  Its easily the worst film I've seen all year long.  Pure torture.  For reasons I cannot completely really remember, I did enjoy the first two, although that was a long time ago.  Somehow, Fast 5 is even worse than those ones.  There's no chemistry between any of the characters.  The script is amazingly bad, predictable and cliched.  It's just an obnoxious film.  Its choke full of irritatting slo mo shots of womens asses set to shitty music.  It's such a fucking annoying film.

 

It is definitely not the best of the series, I don't know why people are saying this.  Although, I guess this is like arguing what is the best type of cancer.  The first two, the only ones I've seen, were dumb fun(maybe?).  This is not fun at all.  The first one was fresh and unexpected, but still monumentally dumb.  Tyrese made the one he was in watchable, although maybe I feel this way because I didn't see it in a theater packed full of dipshits laughing to insanely retarded and unfunny jokes.  This one should make anyone older than 15 cringe from beginning to end.  And Vin looks tired and fat in this.  Only thing worse than this film are the people peddling it.

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Only thing worse than this film are the people peddling it.

 

Oh, fuck you.

post #64 of 169
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Oh, fuck you.



Only a retarded dipshit would be butt hurt over Fast 5.  That's you, in case you didn't get it.

post #65 of 169
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Only a retarded dipshit would be butt hurt over Fast 5.  That's you, in case you didn't get it.



Only a retarded dipshit wouldn't understand making the leap from snark about the film to nasty ad hominem attacks on those here who liked it might elicit some angry responses.

 

post #66 of 169
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Only a retarded dipshit would be butt hurt over Fast 5.  That's you, in case you didn't get it.

Only a retarded dipshit?  So not standard dipshits, then?

 

It was an eye-roll 'oh, fuck you' by the way.  You hardly ruined my day, random person on the internet.

 

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Only a retarded dipshit wouldn't understand making the leap from snark about the film to nasty ad hominem attacks on those here who liked it might elicit some angry responses.

 


Where did I say I didn't understand this?  I meant to take a small swipe at anyone who liked it, and was aware a dumbass like Dark Shape might embarrass herself and get angry, just as she did.  You want to throw insults, go ahead.  But don't resort to making stuff up.  

post #68 of 169
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I've been looking forward to this ever since my friend told me they got a lot of the same stunt guys that worked on PM Entertainment's "Rage".  Glad to hear it doesn't disappoint.

RAGE is a great little-known Action gem. Glad to hear F5 may go in that nutty direction.

 

post #69 of 169

 Life is good.


I plan on spending my Saturday night at the drive-in. Fast 5 and Your Highness. Family night at the drive in.

 

post #70 of 169

Despite some truly extravagant action set pieces, it's the latin pop-scored post-heist sequence at the end of the film that keeps making me smile when I think about it. Perfect summer movie stuff.

post #71 of 169
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Only thing worse than this film are the people peddling it.

 

 

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Only a retarded dipshit would be butt hurt over Fast 5.  That's you, in case you didn't get it.

 

 

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Where did I say I didn't understand this?  I meant to take a small swipe at anyone who liked it, and was aware a dumbass like Dark Shape might embarrass herself and get angry, just as she did.

 

Haha, yep.  Clearly, I'm the one who decided to be laughably angry.  Keep fighting the good fight, anonymous net guy.  I'm sure nigger and faggot will be rolling along soon enough, just before mom checks in to make sure you finished your homework.

post #72 of 169

yes, keep feeding the troll....I am bored.

post #73 of 169

For the record, now that critical consensus seems to have weighed in, I am surprised by the appraisals of this movie.

 

I think it's been a pretty shitty year for tentpole studio films, so something like Fast Five probably feels like a breath of fresh air in some ways. But there's just... nothing there. I think even the biggest apologist for the movie has to acknowledge that, in the realm of big budget blockbusters, this is decidedly below average. Character development, nil. Compelling story, no. Interesting performances? No, and a few really bad ones. I can see some of the praise, but you can't go whole hog on pushing this movie to others without at least a little guilt. It's junk food, served quickly and sloppily.

 

Also, it's been over a decade, Paul Walker - how are you still the worst actor on planet Earth?

post #74 of 169

Thumbs up from Ebert! I'm really surprised by how much positive word of mouth and how many good reviews this movie has received. As a teen I used to love watching action movies, but over the past eight years I've become a big softie who doesn't want to watch movies in the theatre unless I believe I'll get some emotional kick out of them. I think I might make an exception this time. I don't think I've seen an action movie in theatres since "The Italian Job". I wonder if I should finally break my action-less movie streak for this one.

post #75 of 169
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For the record, now that critical consensus seems to have weighed in, I am surprised by the appraisals of this movie.

 

I think it's been a pretty shitty year for tentpole studio films, so something like Fast Five probably feels like a breath of fresh air in some ways. But there's just... nothing there. I think even the biggest apologist for the movie has to acknowledge that, in the realm of big budget blockbusters, this is decidedly below average. Character development, nil. Compelling story, no. Interesting performances? No, and a few really bad ones. I can see some of the praise, but you can't go whole hog on pushing this movie to others without at least a little guilt. It's junk food, served quickly and sloppily.

 

Also, it's been over a decade, Paul Walker - how are you still the worst actor on planet Earth?


 

Paul Walker's a charismatic cat in my book, but I'll come right in line with your bewilderment at how much praise this seems to be getting. It's a fun flick, and the camarderie between the gang got a good few smiles out of me, but it's nothing anyone should be losing their shit over and there are large stretches where it downright drags. The tone is wildly uneven too, mixing knockabout slapstick with moments of outright brutality.

 

post #76 of 169
A blast from start to finish. Hardly any downtime between crazy stunts. So much better than FAST & FURIOUS. The packed cinema I was in ate it up, wooping and cheering, which hardly ever happens in placid west London. The train heist and bridge stunt look incredible in the big screen, hell the whole damn movie does.

Vin Diesel is odd in this movie. A little tubby, charismatic but not great acting. Everytime he emotes it looks like he's taking a dump. And did anyone else's crowd bust up when Vin Diesel finds out his sis is pregnant? He looks really depressed that his brah O'Connor will be taken away from him. It's like they're not even hiding the gay subtext. Or it was just an in joke.

Remind me how Rodriguez died in FF4. Did anyone see her dead body?
post #77 of 169

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and there are large stretches where it downright drags.

 

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Hardly any downtime between crazy stunts.

 

Does not compute. Unless Ricardo was bored by the action on display.

 

I can't weigh in for myself, as I haven't seen it yet. What am I doing in the Post-Release thread, then? Good question.


Edited by DARKMITE8 - 4/28/11 at 3:11pm
post #78 of 169
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Remind me how Rodriguez died in FF4. Did anyone see her dead body?


 

She was supposedly shot to death at point-blank range after wrecking her car, but we never actually see her body.  Dom goes to the crash site and has a vision of what happened, and the audience is meant to take it as fact.  Or so I thought.  Hell, the baddie that Dom kills at the end even taunted him about how he was the one who shot Letty.  Why would you taunt a pissed-off Vin Diesel by telling him you killed his woman when you didn't?  Did dude WANT to die?!

 

post #79 of 169
I guess he just thought she was dead. Or they make this shit up on the fly.

Diesel saw her body though, right?
post #80 of 169
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I guess he just thought she was dead. Or they make this shit up on the fly.

Diesel saw her body though, right?



 Nope. He didn't even go to the funeral; he just looked at it from afar. Phoenix shot Letty, but I'm guessing she either survived her wounds and went into witness protection and then fled from THAT, or... I dunno, something!

 

 What I hope is that they don't reveal Brian knew she was alive. I'm tired of the same damn plot of Brian hiding a secret from Dom. Make it a surprise to ALL of them.

 

post #81 of 169

I truly don't think that Brian knows.  And again, Phoenix SAYS that he shot Letty, but we never truly SEE it.  We see what Dom THINKS happened when he visits the crash site.  All of that may have never even happened.  The more I think of it, the less it makes sense (and I know, I know, nothing in this franchise makes sense, bear with me).  First, how was Mia notified of Letty's death?  Remember, it's Mia who calls Dom to inform him of the murder.  Who told Mia?  The cops wouldn't inform you of a murder unless there was a murder and they had a body.  If Mia was notified by cops, then she's listed as Letty's next of kin somewhere, which means that she would have had to positively ID the body.  Clearly that didn't happen if she's still alive, so WTF?  Did some random person drive by the house and yell "Letty's dead!" and she just took it as gospel?  Where's the body?!  How the fuck did they not know that they were putting an empty goddamn coffin in the ground?  That's one hell of a con that you'd have to coordinate with the goddamn funeral home, the goddamn morgue, the goddamn police...why go to all that trouble for her?  She's not Jimmy Hoffa!

post #82 of 169
post #83 of 169

Had a blast with the flick. The Rock kept me in stitches.

 

I knew it had an after-credits sequence but my friends were all tired lame asses and didn't want to stay, so I had to read up about it. Nice!

post #84 of 169

Great review Nick!  I'm glad to hear yet another voice saying this one delivers an entertaining package.  I've got plans to meet up with a friend to see it this coming Tuesday, so I'm definitely looking forward to it.  Plausibility doesn't necessarily have to be a factor for me, as long as the entertainment value is there.  If they can keep this up for a few more installments, well, no one will hear me complain.

post #85 of 169

There is some truth in advertising, the poster declares that summer beings April 29th and by golly, it delivered. A perfect summer day this movie. 130 minutes, really? Didn't even feel like it. Loved the levity, the banter (really starting to like Ludacris as an actor) and the action is so ridiculous I think Newton should sue for destroying physics. Do I care? No, fun as hell. Great review, Nick. As long as they keep making em, like a sheep, I will keep seeing em.

post #86 of 169
I love the bridge stunt. Some of it was CG but not all. When Walker and Diesel float off the car it looks awesome. Need to know how they did that.

And when Vin Diesel throws the guy off the train and he immediately smashes the bridge you feel it.
post #87 of 169

Gotta join the echo chamber on this movie.   Easily the best movie with the original crew but can I just say Tyrese felt a little wasted here?   I mean he was fine and it was cool seeing him eating but not one "breh" or "I'm HONGRY", or even Hoasis?   Otherwise, great film and way better than the last one.   The franchise is back on track.

 

post #88 of 169

Ah, but he DID say HE HONGRY.

post #89 of 169

I watched Fast Five this evening, and I have to agree with everyone who liked the movie. I missed the after-credits scene because I had to pee. frown.gif

post #90 of 169

I caught it in IMAX (my membership got me in for $5) and liked it, but there's a bunch here keeping me from outright loving it as some others do.  The villain was so vanilla that it did the story a disservice, and having an interesting and formidable baddie would have really helped.  As it stands, they could have been stealing from a mannequin in a store window and had the same effect.  I don't dislike any of the protagonists, but I really don't have an investment in any of them save for the original three, so I could feel myself losing a bit of interest when anyone else was onscreen.  The way that the film goes about telling us that Mia is pregnant literally made me howl laughing.  In the span of ten seconds, they show her wolfing down food, then cuddling a baby, then running to the bathroom with morning sickness.  Elena showing up with Dom at the end didn't work for me, and I did feel like the movie was a touch too long.  I was thinking to myself "wrap it up" by the time we got to the vault chase.  Having said all of that, the action scenes were fun, the genesis of the heist is very clever, and The Rock is absolutely the best thing about this movie.  When he says "Your mistake is thinking you got a goddamn choice, BOY!" to Dom when he tries to arrest him, the guys behind me let out this hushed, awestruck "daaaaaaaaamn".

 

Word about the after-credits scene seems to have spread, because barely anyone left once the credits started.  And boy did that scene bring the house down.  Screams of "Whaaaaaat?" "Oh my God!!" and "How?!" were abundant, and everyone was buzzing exiting the theater.  Faster Sixer:Super Mixer looks to be guaranteed money in the bank. 

 

ETA: Gabe wasn't kidding about the continuity.  I noticed lots of little shout-outs to previous films, from the scars on Vince's arm from the original film's truck heist, to the return of Brian's "buster" nickname, to Han's line about getting to Tokyo "eventually".


Edited by HarleyQuinn22 - 4/29/11 at 6:38pm
post #91 of 169

I can't believe I missed the "I'm HONGREH" line.   Guess I need to see it again.   Also, I kind of miss 2Fast 2Furious Paul Walker in the last 2 movies.   He's much more entertaining spouting off "bro" and "cuz" all over the place and not as stiff.   It's almost like another character he plays separate from his other turns in the role.   Gotta love Han's line about Tokyo: "We'll get there eventually".   This movie also explains how the guy is super rich in Tokyo Drift or at least never has to worry about money.   Here's hoping the next one is in Europe.

post #92 of 169

Best of the series, no doubt. In fact this one really makes me realize just how bad the other films in the series truly were. I can totally believe that some of the guys behind the old PM Entertainment flicks did the stunts because the stuff in this film has the same go-for-broke spirit that a lot of those movies did.

 

Really didn't care about a good chunk of the middle where it's all heist planning. Could have cut that garbage in half and nobody would know the difference. Like all that worrying about the security camera seeing the car. There's like no payoff at all for that. Waste of time.

 

But once Diesel and The Rock throwdown the film is fairly relentless. Pretty sweet riff on CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER when all of The Rock's team gets butchered.

 

I'm not quite as enamored by Tyrese as most, but he has the best line in the picture with the "Martin Luther King's car" bit.
 

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As will I! Could it possibly be... LETTY LIVES?



OH to the SNAP. The kid called it, and I swear I didn't look at no spoilers or nothing.

 

Nice touch bringing Mendes back.

post #93 of 169
No Levine, Remar or Hauser though. And boo to those who say Hauser was bland in 2F2F. That shit with the mouse was chilling.

Speaking of Mendes, it looks like there maybe a love scene between her and Dwayne. Boggles the mind. He would sweat even more.

Molt, I hope this has inspired you to see TOKYO DRIFT. It's great. Great races, hardly any CGI, plus Sonny Chiba having fun.
post #94 of 169
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Speaking of Mendes, it looks like there maybe a love scene between her and Dwayne. Boggles the mind. He would sweat even more.

 



It's funny you say that, because my friends and I spent the walk to the car from the theater trying to figure out if those two are a couple or not.  My friend's evidence: "Would YOU sit on his desk like that in a skirt that tight if you didn't want him to tap it?"

 

And I can't believe I forgot to mention this before: we last see Han and Gisele driving toward Berlin.  The after-credits bit has Letty pulling a job in Berlin.  Hmm.

 

post #95 of 169
Letty's ridiculous resurrection is actually weirdly appropriate in this crazy franchise.

And I dug the return of the moving subtitles. Totally unecessary, but fun.
post #96 of 169

This is the first, and the only, Fast and the Furious movie I have and will ever see. I don't want to spoil the party, but why the hell does anybody like this movie? All this positivity is clearly going way beyond ironic enjoyment. The intentional humor is remarkably Revenge of the Fallen-esque, and is so cringe-worthy it warrants immediate dislike. I laughed all over myself at every dramatic beat in the film and was bored to tears during the rest -- including the apparently "mind-blowing" action scenes. I mean, Revenge of the Fallen had all the racist/insipid comic relief caricatures, nonsensical plot points and indecipherable action sequences one could ever need. Anybody interested in seeing Fast Five should just go re-watch that movie instead. At the very least, they could re-watch an installment in the Ocean's franchise, since that's basically what this movie is minus charismatic stars, a clever plot, witty banter, and a sense of general filmmaking grace.

 

The argument of "this is just big dumb summer fun!" is moot. I know everyone around here agrees with the idea of not having to turn your brain off in order to enjoy a movie. Isn't that one of the main tenets of being a self-respecting, intelligent film lover? Nobody can honestly think this movie is good and simultaneously believe in that concept -- it's simply impossible. Unless some of you believe in that idea only selectively, in which case I don't know what to say to you.

 

The Rock was hilarious, though. I'll give it that.

post #97 of 169
Err, REVENGE OF THE FALLEN? WHAT?!

Don't compare this to that wretched pile of shit. Are you saying the spanish comedy duo are like the racist twins in FALLEN? I don't see it.
post #98 of 169

Yeah, I guess I am. I would like to hear you tell me how they're different -- most of the comedy with the Spanish "comedy duo" (if they qualify as that) is oriented around the mere fact that they're Spanish. They speak to each other really fast in another language, a lot of the time without subtitles so it's just them chattering, and we're supposed to find that inherently amusing? Maybe it was just the cackling woman sitting behind me who laughed her way through every one of their scenes, but that strikes me as racist in the same way the robot twins were.

 

Beyond getting involved in an argument about the twins, I'd like to hear you point out how the Revenge of the Fallen comparison is off-base. I think all criticisms you can level at that movie apply equally to this one.

post #99 of 169
They were speaking Spanish because that is their main language. Why is that racist?

This film is ludicrous, but in a FUN way. It doesn't take itself seriously, unlike FALLEN which tries to tell a grand mythic story but falls flat and is a chore to sit through. It was boring. FAST FIVE is not.

And the action wasn't indecipherable. Quick edits, but you can always tell what is happening.
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They were speaking Spanish because that is their main language. Why is that racist?

This film is ludicrous, but in a FUN way. It doesn't take itself seriously, unlike FALLEN which tries to tell a grand mythic story but falls flat and is a chore to sit through. It was boring. FAST FIVE is not.

And the action wasn't indecipherable. Quick edits, but you can always tell what is happening.



 Don Omar and Tego Calderon are two of the most famous (worldwide) reggaeton/urban hip-hop solos artists out there. As a Puerto Rican born and raised (like them), I can attest that having them in the flick is like having Tupac and Biggie together. They're there to attract latino audiences, and because Diesel is a big fan of theirs (Don Omar has songs in every Fast movie since Tokyo Drift, and the song Dom is listening to in his Tokyo cameo is one of just 3 songs Don Omar and Tego have together). There's THREE Don Omar song cues in F5. He even follows them on tour! He crashed a Don Omar concert and got on stage and sang with him, all before Fast & Furious even began filming. AND the short film "Los Bandoleros" that Diesel directed (and which can be found in the F&F DVD) is all about Dom and Letty springing their characters out of a jail in Dominican Republic and them joining the gang. The name of the movie is the name of one of Don Omar's albums, to boot.

 

 The point being: they're in the gang because they're two of Vin Diesel favorite artists and he really, really, really wanted them in the movies. And they're HILARIOUS, especially Tego Calderon (the one with dreadlocks). You can tell 80% of their lines are improvised, and they have good comic timing (you can tell in spanish, dunno if it translates in english well). The Latin American audience is a BIG part of the Fast franchise, so that's why they're there. And they're practically playing themselves (Tego's character is called Tego).

 

 And that's the end of my rant. They're nothing like the caricatures in TF2. They're just two silly Puerto Ricans.

 

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