Trump's new claim: Obama did not fairly get into the Ivy League, demands records

Shit's gotta be a put-on. As crazy as Trump can be, there's no way this isn't some kind of elaborate performance art.

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Originally Posted by Andrew Merriweather 

Shit's gotta be a put-on. As crazy as Trump can be, there's no way this isn't some kind of elaborate performance art.

Agreed.  He's just leading the media around, much like Sheen did.

That's not the worst of it. When he was six he hit the hand of another kid and made her drop her ice cream cone.

He also moonlighted as an international assassin.

And Lincoln had a year and half of formal education in total.  What's Trump's point?

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Originally Posted by Andrew Merriweather 

Shit's gotta be a put-on. As crazy as Trump can be, there's no way this isn't some kind of elaborate performance art.

It's like every week Trump must make some crazy outlandish claim in order to stay in the news.

He probably got into that school without deserving it through affirmative action like all these blacks. Almost robbed poor C. Thomas Howell of his education, too.

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Originally Posted by Draco Senior 

Well, if Obama did indeed lie about his academic records, then more credence is given to the central proposition of the birther movement as a whole - which is based around the claim that Obama is deliberately concealing his records because they would show that his connections brought him not only to the United States but also to the Ivy League.  It's not that higher education is necessarily a given for the presidency in the sense that they have to attend an Ivy League school (although many of them have), but that Obama has lied about the specifics of his education.

I'm still waiting to hear just what these shadowy connections are supposed to be. The Ottoman Empire?  The year Obama was born, Israel had just won the Six-Day War and had yet to see Egypt and Syria come across the Sinai Peninsula.  The year he went to Harvard, Al Qaeda was busy being created by the CIA to fight Soviet imperialism.  Maybe it's time-traveling Muslims whose pocket almanac told them we'd be ready to elect a black President by 2008.

Hahahahahaah. Oh, I see, Donald. It's not about what's good in any absolute sense or what's right, it's about knowing where your fucking bread is buttered and that's it? Jesus. THIS is why CEO's and "great businessmen" should not necessarily be a good mark of a good public leader. If anything, it should be something they have to overcome.

"President? Foolish faceless man. My campaign is a farce, a small part of a much grander scheme. President! Do you know how much power I'd have to give up to be President?" 

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Originally Posted by stelios 

That's not the worst of it. When he was six he hit the hand of another kid and made her drop her ice cream cone.

 

He also moonlighted as an international assassin.

I sense sarcasm, but how do we know he didn't?  Has he denied it?  Where is the proof, I ask you?

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Originally Posted by Syd 

"President? Foolish faceless man. My campaign is a farce, a small part of a much grander scheme. President! Do you know how much power I'd have to give up to be President?" 

I'm betting on Braniac's involvement as well.

I try to say something substantial or funny or nice whenever I post here, but the only thing I can think when I read this is "Jesus Holy Shit, is this dude fucking KIDDING me?"

quoting "The Queen":

"God, someone save these people from themselves!"

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Originally Posted by Jesse T 

I'm betting on Braniac's involvement as well.

 

Stop insulting an entity of Brainiac's vast power and intellect by in any way associating it with such a sub-par person.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/27/white-house-releases-obama-birth-certificate/?hpt=T1&iref=BN1

Uh oh.

Not happy with Obama today.   Trump's press conference was disgusting.  Here's hoping there's some revenge coming.

Jesus Christ, I can't believe he gave that stupid fuck the satisfaction. Or maybe I can believe it, and that's what's so immensely disappointing about the whole disgusting thing. Horrible.

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Originally Posted by dynamotv 

Not happy with Obama today.   Trump's press conference was disgusting.  Here's hoping there's some revenge coming.

Why are you displeased with Obama?

And I agree, Trump's press conference was amazing in how disingenuous it was. Disgusting, yet somehow hilarious. He really was taking notes all those years he spent working with the WWF.

He didn't do it for Trump, he did it to remind the goddamn media that we've got bigger fish to fry. He says it clearly during the press conference, when he addresses the fact that the networks wouldn't have interrupted programming for Obama on the budget, or national security, but are more than happy to do it when it's about a made-up conspiracy theory.

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Originally Posted by Jacob Singer 

He didn't do it for Trump, he did it to remind the goddamn media that we've got bigger fish to fry. He says it clearly during the press conference, when he addresses the fact that the networks wouldn't have interrupted programming for Obama on the budget, or national security, but are more than happy to do it when it's about a made-up conspiracy theory.

Exactly. As usual, I think he did a pretty good job of making the appropriate point and the way in which he went about presenting it was the best way to do it, all things considered. It really allowed Trump to once again make himself look like a tremendous, bumbling jackass as well.

Trump's donation history shows Democratic favoritism

Let me preface this by saying that if you were to peg me, I'd be firmly on the left. That said, I just can't get behind this hand-wringing against Obama for showing it. The time was right and he made good points while doing it. Let it go.

I keep seeing all these whiny fucking leftists (elsewhere, not here mind you) pissing and moaning about how "the crazy right won again." No they didn't. They look like assholes and this will bite them in the ass. Just let it die. It would've been worse at this point if he just kept it hidden as a "fuck you" to the right. BOTH side need way more humility and "let's get down to actual business" attitude and less of this back and forth slapping.

Yes, they're total fucking pricks and Obama shouldn't have, in theory, ever had to show it. But he did. It's done. Let's move on.

So what does he have to show next? Of course this won't be the end of it.

Fuck all these stupid racists. Fuck Trump the media whore. Fuck the essentially state-run media. Fuck this empire. Fuck Obama for lying about pulling the troops about. Fuck I'm sick of these scum and swine winning.

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Originally Posted by Andrew Merriweather 

So what does he have to show next? Of course this won't be the end of it.

His sixth grade report card according to more than a few conservative commentators. And I'm literally not joking. Heard one on the radio this morning earnestly saying this is necessary. Sixth. Fucking. Grade.

"Fine, you have the long form certificate. Now where's the wide form, hmmmm? JUST WHAT ARE YOU HIDING?"

I heard a person say that he wants evidence that the President was never a citizen of any country but the USA. Now, I have to wonder if people like that think all presidents go through a fact finding mission for evidence from all the countries they were never citizens of.

Barack Hussein Obama, who is supposedly half white, is darker than Harold Ford Jr., another mulatto. You can't explain that.

Sorry for a second Drop A Link And Split in the same thread, but oh lord:

Top 20 Crazy Tea Party Reactions To Obama's Birth Certificate

I finally figured out who Trump reminds me of...

He even sounds like him. Seriously just add the wig/mustache. IT'S HIM.

http://www.businessinsider.com/birther-response-birth-certificate-doesnt-matter-because-obama-is-an-illegal-alien-2011-4

Hahahahahaha

Surprised this man was not carrying a gun as he screamed into the camera.

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Originally Posted by The Closer 

http://www.businessinsider.com/birther-response-birth-certificate-doesnt-matter-because-obama-is-an-illegal-alien-2011-4

 

Hahahahahaha

From the comments section...

America may have elected a Black man as President but many in this country is still livin' on a plantation. Trump, and those who follow his racist retoric, are the same backwards thinking neanderthals that would have stood in front of U. of Miss. protesting as its first Black students tried to enter said University.

Its unfortunate that Obama had to sucumb to this load of horse shit , but I agree that Republicans will end up loosing on this issue in the end.

There're at least some level heads over at National Review re: this. They really don't like the birthers.

Wow - you got that right.  I've never once been to that site in the past, but reading the comments was like a breath of fresh air:

There was the same (well, not the same, but the same kind of idea) lunatic fringe during the G.W. Bush era.  Lest we forget the 9/11 "truthers."  The problem with the lunatic fringe (from whichever side of the political spectrum) is that they never focus on the constructive issues.  They have to find the most outlandish, conspiracy-laden theories they can drum up because the real world isn't scary enough for them.

On the plus side, while there's a lot of sound and fury over the "birther" issue it really does signify nothing...or at least not much.  Most polling has indicated that the significant majority of Americans in general believe Obama is a citizen.  While nearly half of Republicans in specific "have doubts."  I don't disagree with Obama's decision to show the long-form certificate, I just shake my head at the fact that the only people he "needed" to show it for are people that were never going to vote for him no matter what he did, unless he managed to get a melanin-removal procedure and a legal name-change to "Barry  O'Ballmer."  Oh, and Jesus Christ descended from the heavens to show the media his "certificate of Christianity."

I can only hope this bites the Republicans in the ass (in terms of independent votes gathered) as badly as some are fearing it will in 2012.

I was once a Truther in my angry college days and the reactions to the certificate are much the same, in that they fly in the face of logic. It's the belief and movement that is more important than the facts. Obama shows his birth certificate? Then nit-pick that to death because it can't be real because IT JUST CAN'T BE. If the college records are released (or whatever the fuck they're asking for now) then those are obviously forged because some cabinet member knows some guy who plays golf with the head of...Yale? Whichever university Obama went to. The absolute refusal to face facts is what is at work. I just hope that by showing the facts, the people who can still be reasoned (because birthers, truthers, etc never reasoned themselves into it) can be shown how crazy the birthers, etc are and distance themselves.

This clip of Goldie Taylor on Rachel Maddow last night really puts birtherism in perspective:  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/

does trump have a long list of things that he wants to bash obama on? as each one comes out he moves on to the next, demanding to see his immunization record or his marriage blood test or some other batshit thing.

Donald Trump is a fucking joke. I really do hope he runs for president though...because doing so will pretty much guarantee four more years with Obama. Four more years that this country needs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtGfkhnyKPc

Letterman called him on it.

Kind of off-topic, but there are three Donald Trump threads.  WTF?

Yeah, not to add to it all, but the sooner everyone stops talking about this fuckwad, the better we will all be.  That goes for the media and also all of us. 

Pushing aside the blame for elevating this guy, I do have to wonder if Trump is good for Democrats or will all his bullshit and demagoguery really work at winning votes. Some of my more cynical friends really think that elevating the debate will only end in electoral failure, that the electorate is stupid enough to believe anyone who will say shit like "fuck China, fuck OPEC, fuck immigrants, etc" and vote for them out of anger. 2008 was different in that we were still reeling from supreme incompetence. We will have had Obama for what will be 3.8 years by the time the election rolls around. If the economy is still a big problem, will Trump's brand of hate and mindless scapegoating really pull a number on people? The scariest thing is that there is historical evidence to suggest it might... The optimist in me says no way. The pragmatist in me says be very careful of the candidate who preaches hate and promises everything.

The beltway's reaction to the birthers post-certificate really surprised me. They actually thought that this would put the issue to rest and were shocked when they all immediately switched the topic of conversation to his school records, his selective service application, etc. That the birthers would dig their heels further should've shocked no one, but there ya go.

I have a little more faith in the American public and the laws of the universe, than to seriously entertain the idea that in 2012 Trump's name will be anything other than a euphemism for "mammoth asshole" (much like it's been for the entirety of his career as a public figure thusfar). McCain / Palin looked like a very scary close call in 2008, but even then there just weren't enough dolts milling around the states to make that happen. Even the looming threat of a black dude being the President of the United States couldn't get these people to multiply  and mobilize fast enough to do anything about it.

I'm under the opinion that Trump will not run, he's just using this as free press.