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Came out here yesterday.

 

I really, really, enjoyed this. Out of the four Marvel productions thus far I'd say it's definitely neck and neck with the first Iron Man. It's genuinely entertaining and moves along at a fair old pace.

 

I've got a few quibbles, namely that the biggest and best action sequence happens within the first thirty minutes and nothing ever really matches it. I think Branagh has a better natural eye for action than Favreau and all of the action sequences are a lot of fun, but the Thor, Warriors 3, Loki, Sif vs. an army of Frost Giants battle is just great. The clips released online thus far really undersell the film, particularly the scene of Thor fighting at the hammer site. That's a bad moment in an otherwise great sequence and the pains the online clip went to edit around Hawkeye is ridiculous. The cast is uniformly great, but they're given very little to do. Even Portman as the main love interest only gets about twenty minutes of screentime, meanwhile Kat Dennings is on screen for five minutes...if that.

 

Chris Hemsworth is fantastic though and in terms of presence and charm he's almost up there with Downey Jr. Just a fantastic presence in the centre of the film and he's the reason the film works as well as it does. He's ably matched by Tom Hiddleston as Loki who is just brilliant as Loki, he's a loathsome, pitiable, genuine threat to Thor and Hiddleston makes every character beat work. He's a character who is deceitful by nature and it plays perfectly against the more physical heroes. In fact I kind of love that his deceitful nature means that we're not even really sure of what he's really trying to do until right at the end.

 

The set design, of Asgard, is amazing. There's an initial shot which travels through the solar system and up through Asgard which is kind of phenomenal. It's a real thing of beauty, and the film is just full of great looking shots. Branagh really makes the Asgard stuff work, finding an emotional core to scenes that could come across as Flash Gordonish. It's also funny, really funny. Not quite as laugh out loud as Iron Man, but it's got an amiable charm and some great jokes.

 

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The post-credits, scene is interesting too in that it actually forwards the plot a little and seems to introduce the return of Loki and the Cosmic Cube.

 

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93% Fresh outta 45 reviews on RT.

 

 Between Thor & his incredible work in Wallander, it's great to see Branaugh winning big again. Yay!

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I'm glad, I really hope this thing finds an audience.

 

It's also got me super psyched for The Avengers. Hemsworth and Downey Jr. are going to be brilliant to watch play off each other.

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I was able to catch this a few weeks ago, ain I enjoyed this film as well.  I can pretty much copy and past what Spike said but I wont.  Chris Hemsworth is amazing and I hope this leads him to other film roles. As for Loki, Tom Hiddleston  is just as amazing.  Can't wait to see this opening day with my dad.  

 

Duke, get your puns ready cause you'll love this movie.

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Are you guys watching this in 3D?  If so/not, is it worth it to splurge for a 3D viewing?

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I can't see cinematic 3D, but my friend said that she couldn't really see the difference. I think the film would benefit from a bright screen, I was frustrated at how dark the image was due to the stupid glasses.

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Also, y'know what I love about this film? It's comic booky as all hell. A lot of the Asgard sets look like they've been taken straight from Jack Kirby drawings and it's great seeing Thor be just insanely super heroic. Despite the fucking wealth of superhero films it was kind of cool just seeing a guy flying around and the film just completely embracing its comic book roots. Compared to the more grounded Iron Man and Incredible Hulk films it's just charmingly willing to go big and fantastical. I mean this is a film where it's inferred that Natalie Portman is going to create wormholes and Thor has the ability to create fucking lightning Tornados and fly around like a motherfucker.

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Are you guys watching this in 3D?  If so/not, is it worth it to splurge for a 3D viewing?



Nope. See it in 2D

 

( this is coming from someone who worked on the 3D)

post #9 of 342

The asgard stuff ranges from great (the first 30 mins of the flick) to good. The earth based stuff goes from average to pretty damn lousy. Natalie portman has the all the chemistry of a rubber tire with Chris Hemsworth. The romance stuff is terrible. Heck, the action sequences on earth are fairly poor too. The asgard stuff, Chris hemsworth the ice giants, loki, anthony hopkins looking like he gives a damn.. these things save this movie. I'd rate it behind The incredible Hulk as far as marvel produced output goes. I seem to be in the minority though.

 

Did anyone else notice all those Dutch tilts? Record number of them. Beats chronicles of Riddick in that regard.

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I thought Portman and Hemsworth were pretty great together (aside from Hemsworth making her look like a midget) and I don't get the complaints about the action scenes. I mean aside from a bit of wirework I found the action sequences and beats really quite impressively tactile. Vic Armstrong was the 2nd Unit director and you can really see his hand in the action sequences. I even liked a lot of the stuff with The Destroyer, particularly the moment when Sif impales it and it just sort of molds itself to face her.

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You'll get no complaints from me in regards to the first action sequence. Great stuff. The destroyer sequence built up really well and then kind of went nowhere. The impaling you describe is probably the best moment from it and I was kinda expecting this epic showdown between the destoyer and Thor. But Thor just gets his hammer, wacks him and that's it.  A real let down, for me atleast.

 

In regards to the romance, Hemsworth is giving it his best and portman gives her best smile, but I never really got the connection between them. The final scene has Thor wondering how portman is doing on earth and waiting to see her again and all I could wonder was "why?". The film didn't earn that moment at all.

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I thought the Destroyer fight was truncuated, but I did love him creating a tornado and then destroying it like some fucking fire valkyrie. I actually really liked the Thor/Loki fight, but I think that was because I was really invested in both Thor and Loki as characters.

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Yep, the destroyer scene reeked of marvel cutting costs and runtime. Actually the entire film feels heavily edited. I could see an extended cut improving this flim. A lot.

 

I'll be honest, I was expecting a fight of much bigger scale between Thor and Loki, but in the end the it was the emotional content of the fight that really did the job for me. The final bit where Loki lets go was really heartbreaking.

 

 

At the end of the day I was expecting a bit more from the entire movie. The earth stuff should have been much better than what we got, considering they pretty much nailed asgard. Either way, I still hope the film does well. I hope it does well enough that the next Thor movie we get sticks to Asgard and other realms for most of its runtime.

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The final fight had some great elements. The 'frozen lightning' was a cool effect, Loki's duplicates and putting the hammer on his chest at the end. That shot of the bridge being smashed and waves going away was brilliant.

 

I loved Loki through out, but his reaction to Thor's relationship with Jane seemed like an odd response. I suppose it was jealousy, but it really hit a raw nerve.

 

Minor rant: I don't like movies which have a 'thing' which has a nice useful purpose, but at some point is revealed to be a known weapon of mass desyruction. The Bifrost falls into this category. So does Cerebro from X2. I have a hard time believing that Odin/Prof X would keep such a device around if it can so easily be turned into something dangerous.

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Nope. See it in 2D

 

( this is coming from someone who worked on the 3D)


I thought as much.  Thanks.
 

 

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The 3D works in some places but not in others (some of the fight sequences are cut quickly so it ruins the effect) this is the last time I think I will be paying for a 3D film as I keep getting pulled out of the film when the 3D doesn't work. 

 

Been having a discussion with a friend about the post credits sequence and he thought it was weird that you

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see the cosmic cube which is from another movie not yet out.

I told him he was being picky and that it didn't really matter as it was a wee clip for "fans" rather than part of the movie.

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 Actually the entire film feels heavily edited. I could see an extended cut improving this flim. A lot.

 

 


I adored this film but I agree completely. I bought Thor and Jane but it certainly wasn't as strong as it should have been.

 

The film needed at least one more scene of the two of them bonding and for God's sake more of the Warriors three. It felt like they did nothing but sit in a room pining for Thor.

 

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I thought Hiddleston was astonishing as Loki, note fucking perfect but...

His motives weren't really clear enough.

He let the Frost Giants into the vault initially out of boredom and jealousy. Later on he sends the Destroyer to Earth to fuck everything up out of spite, then he attacks Jotunheim to prove himself to Odin. It was just a little murky and I think needed tightening up.

 

While I'm in spoiler mode. "I need a Horse!" Killed me.

 

 

 

I also hope this finds an audience. I know a sequel has been confirmed but Marvel will really need to loosen the purse strings. Asgard looks stunning but it doesn't look real. There are rooms and CGI back drops. We never see the Asgardians properly. Bring on Balder, Tyr and Valkyrie. Don't tell us how magnificent Asgard is show us.

 

Everyone was worried about mixing magic and science. I think Thor succeeded and I can not wait to see Hemsworth and Downey Jnr face off. I think Whedon will get something really special out of those two. 


 

 


Edited by Mike's Pants - 4/29/11 at 2:26am
post #18 of 342

Really liked. Didn't loved it, but its a step foward for Marvel after Iron Man 2. Hemsworth is amazing, Idris Elba fucking rocks the earth and loved Kat Dennings fumbling with the word Mjnolnir.

 

My favorite scene is the giggle that Portman makes after Thor kisses her hand. I love sappy moments like that.

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THOR's not doing as well as FAST FIVE, but it's definitely doing well. Early numbers are either equal to or more than IRON MAN's box office take.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/thor-grosses-8-million-internationally-183679

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did anybody recognise any of the weapons that were in the armoury? I'm sure i saw the eye of Agamotto (Dr Strange's amulet).. They did show the infinity gauntlet at comicon last year and said that it would be in the film...

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Better than Iron Man 2, a little ahead of Incredible Hulk due to action sequences and Hemsworth's charisma, but this really suffered from Portman's character and the romance being horribly underdeveloped and unconvincing, and from feeling too much like a build up to the Avengers rather than a film in its own right. Branagh has a far better visual eye than any of the directors Marvel's used thus far, but was let down by the script.

Hawkeye was also kind of pointless.

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The CHUD crew sees it tomorrow and we are jazzed!


 

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Absolutely loved it.  Especially now I've had over a week to digest it and come down from the post-viewing high a bit and be more subjective.  I was never one to bury Hemsworth when he was announced, but I had no idea he was going to absolutely NAIL it like that.  He just owns the role just like RDJ did with Stark. 

The cast are uniformly spot on (Hiddleston is magic, no pun intended, Elba is . . . well, he's Elba - he makes the simplest lines with the most monotone voice sound absolutely badass), even Portman does great when you look at her as an intelligent, focused woman who gets reduced to a giggly high-school girl around, well . . . a God among men, basically.  I bought it, but I agree that there could have been more build-up in there.  As it was, I didn't feel cheated. 

I think one of the great things (that we all kind of expected with Ken at the helm) was that, like IM1, you find yourself hanging off the character moments more than the big action sequences.  At the end of the day, I'd put it neck-and-neck with IM1.  If you go through a checklist for each film of what they do right and what they could have done better, I think you'll find they're almost identical scorecards. 

 

Also, "I need a horse!".

 

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Loved it as well. May be the best Marvel film next to IRON MAN and X-MEN 2: UNITED. I got a nice Superman vibe when i saw Thor flying about in his red cape.

 

Just checking, but that object in the Post Credits...

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was it the same Cosmic Cube that was in Odin's Vault? If i remember my Marvel  Continuity correctly, there are a few of these Cosmic Cubes running about.

 

 Also I can't recall but did they reveal who Skarsgard contacted regarding all this THOR stuff? Could it be

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Reed Richards.

 Is it?

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I'll just type this cos for some reason my comp is being a prick about something as simple as adding spoiler tags, but . . . he mentioned his friend was "an expert in gamma radiation.  SHIELD got involved and no one ever heard from him again".  HAS to be Banner.

 

 

post #26 of 342

Loved it, even more than Iron Man actually. Whereas IM lived and died by RDJ's charisma, Thor's got scores of great character work (not to mention an interesting villain) and a story that isn't as by-the-numbers. Props to Brannagh for making the Asgard stuff feel real as opposed to campy. It's not perfect, the romance needed a bit of cleaning up and it could've used another character beat - Thor's conversion is a bit quick - but it made me care about the character, which is saying something...

 

No idea where Hiddleston is from, but he's fucking awesome.

 

EDITED TO ADD: I saw this in 3D. Definitely not worth the extra cash.


Edited by Evi - 4/30/11 at 3:07pm
post #27 of 342
It has to be Banner. Easy to tie into the Avengers.

It'll be cool if it was Richards but he can't show up on screen so why mention him.
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Really pleasantly surprised. Hemsworth was good. Hiddleston was good. Branah got some of the best superhero action I've seen. Whoever played Sif really eclipsed Portman though. She was damn stunning.

 

The negatives? Some of the effects were spotty and the music was almost unnoticable.

 

Very highly recommended. 

post #29 of 342

Loved...pretty much everything except for the romance which just seemed underdone. Portman was stranded by the script, and the Earth-2 Michelle Monaghan playing Sif had way more chemistry with Thor. Otherwise, it's my favorite Marvel movie yet, even including the ones done by Sony (Spidey) and Fox (X-Men). The Battle of Jotenheim (sp?)...my god.....

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The negatives? Some of the effects were spotty and the music was almost unnoticable.



Now, I ain't saying it's perfect, but I thought it was the best Marvel score (Marvel, not Marvel properties at other studios, mind) by a mile so far.  The piece when they were riding their horses across the Bifrost at the start was pretty damn awesome.

post #31 of 342

Why people are let down by the romance angle? I thought Portman and Hemsworth had really great chemistry, and i bought that she was genuinely fascinated by him.

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Loved...pretty much everything except for the romance which just seemed underdone. Portman was stranded by the script, and the Earth-2 Michelle Monaghan playing Sif had way more chemistry with Thor. Otherwise, it's my favorite Marvel movie yet, even including the ones done by Sony (Spidey) and Fox (X-Men). The Battle of Jotenheim (sp?)...my god.....



This is good to hear.  I've got high hopes for this.  I really want Thor and Cap to nail it so we can roll into the Avengers on a high note.

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Why people are let down by the romance angle? I thought Portman and Hemsworth had really great chemistry, and i bought that she was genuinely fascinated by him.

 

For me, it's because Portman's Jane wasn't really a character. Sif and Darcy...they felt like real people with quirks and substance, and their respective attraction to Thor felt more real as well. Jane - despite Portman's talent - was just starry-eyed and mad about her research being swiped. Fascinated, sure, but there didn't seem to be much else. I enjoyed the bonding between Skaaaaaaaaaarsgared and Hemsworth more than the featured romance.
 

 

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Yeah, both the other women fared better than Portman. I never bought the romance and this removed a bit from Thor's sacrifice at the end. Maybe it's because of my knowledge of the comic, but I kept thinking "What's the big deal, Sif is way better anyway."

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Way hotter as well.

 

Will Portman be in The Avengers? I assume that's going to be one of the first things he does when Thor returns back to earth.

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Anybody else cringe when the Warriors 3 came to Earth  looking like that? Jesus, that was Michael Bay level of dumb....

 

 

post #37 of 342

Liked it, didn't love it.  I'm not a Marvel fanboy, so seeing things come to life never clicked.  But I liked Hemsworth a lot, Loki made for a good villain, and even the fish out of water stuff was good for a few laughs that didn't make me hate myself.  Looking forward to seeing Hemsworth and Downey play off each other.

 

In the Marvel shared universe, I'd rank 'em as such:  Iron Man, Thor, The Incredible Hulk, Iron Man 2.

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It was nice the way that they didn't make Loki as outright villian. In his own way, he really does care about Asgard and his family.

 

Did anyone what other artifacts were there in Odin's Vault? Besides

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the Cask of Winters and The Cube that is.

 

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It was nice the way that they didn't make Loki as outright villian. In his own way, he really does care about Asgard and his family.

 



Disagree. He was willing to commit genocide, shot people in the back etc, he was an excellent villain, easily the best in any of these Marvel movies. Arguably the best thing in the movie.

post #40 of 342

@felix The Eye of Agametto and the Infinity Gauntlet.

 

Really enjoyed it, but wasn't blown away. There's too much focus on Portman's character, and there's simply not enough action. The Destroyer bit and the final fight should have been bigger, and there could have been more of Sif and Darcy. And if you have Hawkeye in there, why not add him to the Destroyer scene? Point being that you have that elite guys from SHIELD not able to do a thing about the Destroyer, with only a true thunder god being able to do it.


Lots of cool stuff, the flying, the bifrost, the arrogant attitude, the Jotunheim fight.... but honestly, I had more fun with Fast Five.

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I was wondering about that Eye of Agamotto. I thought I saw it but it was too fast.

 

Yeah, that Hawkeye thing seemed more like a throwaway as well. Did your audience catch the refrence?

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Hawkeye was obviously added in post-production, that's why he didn't interact with anyone directly. They did about as well as they could have with it.

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@felix The Eye of Agametto and the Infinity Gauntlet.

 

Really enjoyed it, but wasn't blown away. There's too much focus on Portman's character, and there's simply not enough action. The Destroyer bit and the final fight should have been bigger, and there could have been more of Sif and Darcy. And if you have Hawkeye in there, why not add him to the Destroyer scene? Point being that you have that elite guys from SHIELD not able to do a thing about the Destroyer, with only a true thunder god being able to do it.


Lots of cool stuff, the flying, the bifrost, the arrogant attitude, the Jotunheim fight.... but honestly, I had more fun with Fast Five.


Gotta disagree with this.  I thought that Thor had the ideal balance between substance and action, which satisfied both my heart and need for some Marvel-worthy action sequences...whereas with Fast Five, all I could think of was that the decision to change the structure of the whole thing and try to play for some cheap drama just did not work on any level.  It's a small miracle that Branagh was able to bring as much genuine drama as he did out of the material and never once entered too deep into outright silly territory.

 

Plus, am I the only one here who found the length of the Destroyer scene to be ideal?  Dunno..I thought it was neither too short, nor did it overstay its welcome. 

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Also, I have to hand it to Hopkins as Odin, because I initially had my doubts over how he would play the character.  In the banishment scene particularly, he manages to be explosive without compromising one iota of the emotion.  Branagh brought a really great, perfectly balanced performance out of him that never threatened to descend into mere theatrics.

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Don't get me wrong, I don't think that Fast Five is the better flick, just the better theatrical experience. There's lots of substance, but while the actors are really amazing in it, there's only little depth to it.

There are four major action sequences in the flick: the warriors vs the frost giants, Thor vs SHIELD, Thor vs the Destroyer and Thor vs Loki. In two of those, Thor is the invincible thunder god who doesn't even break a sweat. In the SHIELD scene, Thor has to work harder but still has no real enemies, which makes none of those three sequences ever really thrilling. Now the Loki fight could have been something with true emotions, but Thor fighting his own brother never gets much more emotional than Obi vs Anakin. I think it's sad to see because Hiddleston and Hemsworth are really great, just not able to do enough with the simple scenes. I never felt Thor's despair, Loki's self-hate, confusion and rage or Odin's sadness over handling his sons. Same goes for Foster, we never feel any sparks of her love for Thor. They're cute together, but the final kiss doesn't feel deserved, same for Thor's longing after he smashed the bifrost. I think there's much in Thor that's meant to move you, but it didn't move me, although I appreciated the effort of the actors and the overall entertaining presentation of the story.

In my screening, there were a bunch of giggles (Darcy, Foster hitting Thor twice, drunk Selvig, gimme a horse) and only one yeah moment: when Thor killed that beast.

 

Now Fast Five. The actors in this are no characters, they're just there to move the story along. They too try to have some emotional scenes and completely fail at that. But it's only two small moments, Lin spends most of the rest on either exciting action scenes or fun build-up to the next, and it works like a charm, even though non-characters are doing unrealistic, unplausible stupidity.

I don't know about your screening, but in my people cheered on

- seeing Dom, Brian, Rock, Ludacris, Tyrese, Han - that alone is more than the cheering in Thor
- the opening heist
- some times specific car models were shown (the Charger especially)
- both stand-offs with Rock and Diesel
- the police car race
- the safe sequence
- the post credits scene (everyone stayed on to see this one. no one stayed to see the one in Thor)

It felt like a mix of people cheering because they actually love everything in there and people cheering because they think it's just so ridiculous (although it's never as insultingly stupid as TF2). Whatever they were thinking, they have major fun seeing this. Even if many, including me would say that Thor is the better flick.

post #46 of 342

Thor is supposed to be the invincible thunder god. That's his thing. I for one appreciate seeing a superhero movie finally showing a superhero acting the way I remember from comics.

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Also, I have to hand it to Hopkins as Odin, because I initially had my doubts over how he would play the character.  In the banishment scene particularly, he manages to be explosive without compromising one iota of the emotion.  Branagh brought a really great, perfectly balanced performance out of him that never threatened to descend into mere theatrics.



 I absolutely loved "....you have opened these peaceful realms and innocent lives to the horror and devastation of wwwaaaaAAAARRRRR!"

post #48 of 342

The post-credits scene in Thor finally reveals what was Marsellus Wallace's briefcase.

post #49 of 342

Loved it. Thought we had a little too much of mortal-Thor, but great acting from a great cast, somewhat of an interesting story, good, funny dialog and really good f/x. After just watching Sir Anthony Hopkins in The Rite, and now this, and the fact that he and I are from the same birthplace, absolutely loved any scene he was in.

 

Fast Five, then this, what a great start to the summer!

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It has happened and I'm PISSED.  Trying to find a theater to see this film and everyone only has it in 3D.

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