Bin Laden Dead as hell. - Page 10

Fave porn movie: "The American Devil in Miss Jones"?

Osama's porn stash is just too delicious not to be at least partially PSYOPS.

Santorum says McCain doesn't understand torture.

How hilarious would it be if this little fracas saw McCain finally turn his back on what the Republican Party has become?
 

Ah, Santorum. He really is that "frothy mixture of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the byproduct of anal sex," isn't he?

Does it not seem strange that 22 of those killed were involved in the supposed killing of Bin Laden and why would they be set up on such a foolhardy mishandled mission. Could they have been conveniently silenced?

You misread the article...

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Originally Posted by Johnny Daywalker 

Does it not seem strange that 22 of those killed were involved in the supposed killing of Bin Laden and why would they be set up on such a foolhardy mishandled mission. Could they have been conveniently silenced?

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/06/afghanistan-helicopter-crash-sources-navy-seals-killed_n_920147.html

 

Conveniently silenced???

This is the same line of thinking being pushed by the likes of conspiracy nut Alex Jones and other irresponsible characters. I really would like to understand the mind of conspiracy theorist though, you really have to be pretty paranoid to come up with these nonsensical explanations for events that happen in the world ...

Considering the men on the copter were DEVGRU, but were NOT on the mission in question makes silencing them 1) useless and 2) cost-inefficient.

The training a sailor receives to become an active member of DEVGRU runs well into the millions of dollars per man.  Times 22 men, times the experience lost, times the cost to the families.  It may make sense for a retarded Call of Duty game, but not in the real world.  It's not like there are dozens of DEVGRU operators running around talking about their exploits.  They stay quiet because that is what they naturally do, that is what they have been formally trained to do, and they could go to jail if they don't.  22 men from DEVGRU is about 7-8% of the ENTIRE UNIT. 

Anyways, as with all fallen service personnel, my thanks and my thoughts are with their families and loved ones.  Terrible tragedy.

I wasn't on CHUD when Bin Laden got taken out, but I posted about it on GUY.com, so for the sake of completeness I'm offering my thoughts on the lack of a photo ETC here:

I will now add that there is a reason Libya had Momar's body on display for days on end, with people lining up to view it: it was psychologically important for the oppressed people of Libya to see that he was really dead, and know his era had ended. Having his body on display put a punctuation mark on the whole thing, and gives them all a chance to excise the fear they'd lived with

Seeing as Bin Laden was essentially America's go to bogey man for a decade, denying us a chance to have that same moment, to see his end and know that we can now move forward.. I think it's just bad for the country

So, you think America should have put his body on display and put a parade around it? 

I think it says a lot about America, that we don't resort to turning his dead body into a trophy.  We found him, took him out, done and done. 

And buried him like Megatron at the end of the first TRANSFORMERS movie too.

And look how well that turned out.

But seriously Kate, what do you think the reaction around the world would have been if they did what you wanted?  If he's a martyr now, what would be the result of parading his body around?

Disposing of his body the way they did was the smartest move they could've done. He'll continue to get touted by extremists on that side of the spectrum, sure, but at the end of the day he's just another dead rat in a garbage pail behind a Chinese restaurant.

I don't get what people want?  His head on a spike?  A glass casket like the pope so everyone could see?  Pics of his bullet mangled body?  I think what the US did was the absolute best.  To just dump his body into the ocean like a bag of trash, is exactly what he deserved.  

you know those pictures would be the rallying call of all terrorist recruiters.  You are absolutely right, they have NOTHING left of him.  No even a picture.  

Osama isn't a well liked figure in the Arab world. He's killed more Muslims than anyone. Iraq was a great terrorist recruitment tool. Final confirmation of Bin Laden's death (also to prove he's not at a black site being tortured) is just that, and not an incitement to anyone other than people who already are in Al Quade

What I am personally interested in knowing is how American political/social culture functions without a generic bogeyman to which it can attach essentially all relevant fears of the present time. Will a new one just be created? Or, will a new period of tranquility be born with this one man's death? The latter is a "clearly not," I think -- all this anxiety is going to go somewhere. I'm just curious to see who/what country is the ultimate object now that one situation-specific and yet unusually persistent cultural hate-enemy has been disposed of.

Good question.  Now rank and file people are questioning the ridiculous military budget and the vast, octopus-like, extremely expensive private contractor industry that has exploded under the umbrella of "Homeland Security."   I think the Eisenhower rule will apply, but I don't think it will be analogous to bin Laden.  I think it will be more along the lines of the USSR, and judging from Herman Cain's bizarre prediction about the Chinese developing nuclear weapons 45 years after they developed them, perhaps China is what the Koch brothers will dictate their "grassroots" tea partiers complain about next. 

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"I just wish we could be honest that the order was to kill and not capture. It insults our intelligence to claim he was making "threatening gestures" towards Navy SEALS with his bare hands, and so he needed to get gunned down."

(I'm forum disabled and couldn't figure out how to quote the quote.)

As a combat vet I have to be honest, shit like that still bothers me.

Unarmed is a relative term when dealing with the current regime of enemy combatants. In my time in the Army we were always told the same thing during any raid. Take targets that are valuable if they ARE NOT a danger to you or your men. We gather intel after ops for that exact reason. And honestly with the way we're forced to interrogate insurgents, paper and documents are more reliable. 

And as far as Bin Laden being at a "black site" being tortured...this is the real world. Not 24.

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Originally Posted by JMulder 

What I am personally interested in knowing is how American political/social culture functions without a generic bogeyman to which it can attach essentially all relevant fears of the present time. Will a new one just be created? Or, will a new period of tranquility be born with this one man's death? The latter is a "clearly not," I think -- all this anxiety is going to go somewhere. I'm just curious to see who/what country is the ultimate object now that one situation-specific and yet unusually persistent cultural hate-enemy has been disposed of.

Probably the government itself.

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Originally Posted by JMulder 

What I am personally interested in knowing is how American political/social culture functions without a generic bogeyman to which it can attach essentially all relevant fears of the present time. Will a new one just be created? Or, will a new period of tranquility be born with this one man's death? The latter is a "clearly not," I think -- all this anxiety is going to go somewhere. I'm just curious to see who/what country is the ultimate object now that one situation-specific and yet unusually persistent cultural hate-enemy has been disposed of.

Thank you. Nice to see someone thinking and not reacting here.

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Originally Posted by Greg Clark 

Disposing of his body the way they did was the smartest move they could've done. He'll continue to get touted by extremists on that side of the spectrum, sure, but at the end of the day he's just another dead rat in a garbage pail behind a Chinese restaurant.

I beg to differ - this could have been Obama's shining moment, to take Bin Laden's dead body, round up all the nukes on earth and launch him INTO THE SUN.  

NU'QLEAR MAN, coming summer 2013 to a theater near you.