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post #1 of 27
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Jesus, what a failure.

- Paul Bettany is not good in this. He's just there. No attitude, no presence. The painted-on cross looks goofy.
- Cam Gigandet. Sorry pal, you may be the nicest guy on earth but you simply can not act. I've seen you in Never Back Down, Pandorum, Twilight, The Roommate, Easy A, The Experiment, The Unborn, even Burlesque. There's nothing.
- I haven't seen one episode of Nikita 2010, but Maggie Q might have peaked in terms of badassery in LIVE FREE and in terms of hotness in MI3; she's a complete failure in this one. She's never once looking good, never works in the action scenes and any attempt at doing emotions is just laughable. She's Gigandet bad. Milla Jovovich curb stomps this role. Even Musketeer Milla.
- Karl Urban is in a world of hurt. He's the only one understanding one of the ways this movie could have been any watchable (read: JONAH HEX cheesy) and the camera just works against that direction. Stewart actually thinks this is cool, epic, emotional. Serious. Urban gets a bunch of cool poses, but his character is absolutely one-note
- Christopher Plummer is still alive? He does is best doing Von Sydow in Judge Dredd but gets less scenes to work with.
- There's Charles Widmore from LOST. He's lost, and told to shut the fuck up. So he does.

 

It's JUDGE DREDD without Rob Schneider, but also without Sly, the cannibals or Armand Assante. This might have one of the dumbest, most cliche scripts I've heard in months. The story is idiotic, there's never any tension, no climax, no thrill, no surprise. The score does not relate to the images seen. Even at 88 minutes it's still slow as fuck. Endless scenes of Bettany cruising around on a futuristic motorcycle in nothingness. Many quiet scenes that are clearly supposed to evoke emotions, like deep sadness, loneliness, regret over lifelong loyality to the church or having been a mindless killing machine for years don't work. Nothing has any impact, it's just moping, wooden acting not even involuntarily funny as in Episode II. Everything just feels stale and dry, lifeless. And the world is boring. As in Dredd, the movie begins in an interesting Mega City and leaves for a mostly empty, dusty desert that is just boring to look at. Without any cool bits like Mean Machine.


Now, the big one, the action. Another failure and I'm baffled why. The fights in Legion weren't bad (in fact I loved every scene with Kevin Durand), but here, there's no momentum, no impact, just Bettany jumping around and throwing Van Helsing left-over gadgets. It certainly doesn't help that all of his enemies look like the shitty CGI creatures from I AM LEGEND (and their sleeping bags? Oh, they'll remind you of said Van Helsing. That vampire cowboy Urban actually does spend time with this drooling legion of CGI penis monsters is just unbelievable. At least VH had three hot chicks, and Roxburgh fun with his flamlboyant overacting) or that it's never clear what super powers a PRIEST actually does have. He doesn't feel like a Blade, you never get a feeling he's actually SO good priests like him replaced the army (in one scene, Q throws stones in the air and Priest runs over them wuxia style - in another, you're supposed to believe Priest dies when he gets stabbed in the shoulder). The action is just horribly filmed, and it's not even because of overuse of slow-motion or shaky cam. It's not that you can't see the cool stuff going on, there simply is none.

And it's the kind of flick that thinks you're stupid. There's a way too long introduction (which completely forgets to show the important past between Bettany and Urban, you get no idea why Urban feels so betrayed), a specific simple scene gets shown several times to remind you of it and any twist and beat gets telegraphed from a mile away. Did I mention that Urban's plan is completely idiotic as well? His plan is to drive a train into one of the big cities, then release vampires to kill everyone. Even though it's idiotic (what does he do in case he wins? hang around with the monsters that look like the one from Will Smiths Men in Black music video?) it could easily work, but he fails at that because he's just notifying the one who'll eventually stop him.

3D is so-so. This makes Jonah Hex look like a really good time. Malkovich and Brolin did a great work. No one does in this one.

post #2 of 27

Thanks for taking one for the team, Chris.

 

But its short, right? Only 87mins?

post #3 of 27


 

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It's JUDGE DREDD without Rob Schneider, but also without Sly, the cannibals or Armand Assante.


Shudder. I'll be avoiding this one like the plague.

post #4 of 27

Eek. The Missus' love for Bettany knows few bounds, but I think Legion was as far as I'm willing to go on that score. Pass.

post #5 of 27

And that tipped the balance for me.  $14.00 saved.

post #6 of 27

Man, that does sound pretty bad. I was going to keep my expectations in check, but it seems to be as bad as I initially perceived it to be. I'll probably still check it out in the dollar movies.

post #7 of 27

I've been listening to the score, actually. Haven't seen the movie, but I figured it was Christopher Young, so it couldn't be bad. Actually sounds great. To hear it has no relation to what's going on onscreen is pretty disheartening.

 

post #8 of 27

Can Bettany fire his fucking agent now please???

post #9 of 27

There's a scene where Priest Bettany jumps in the air and Priest Maggie Q picks up two stones, tosses them in Priest Bettany's direction, for him to step on - in mid-air - to jump higher.

And when you think that defies the laws of gravity, wait until the patented Fight On Top Of A Moving Train set piece at the finale.

I felt terrible for Karl Urban. This seemed like a movie he would have to do 5 years ago. He's totally better than this shit.

post #10 of 27

Ouch. A library borrow at best, it sounds. Too bad. I was hoping for something formulaic but enjoyable. But thanks to Gabe T, I'll give the score a shot.

post #11 of 27

 Now for another worthless opinion. The trailers tell you exactly the movie you are going to get. So, if you are at all interested in the trailers, I think you could find the movie entertaining. I had some fun with it. I liked some of the design of the world. The problem is that it's an extremly silly film that lacks humor. It would have been nice to see some self-awareness. I thought Maggie Q was the best thing about it. She gets in pretty great fight scene against some familiars (?) on motorcyles. I thought the vamp design beat the I Am Legend vamps, at least. I realize that's not saying much. 

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(in one scene, Q throws stones in the air and Priest runs over them wuxia style - in another, you're supposed to believe Priest dies when he gets stabbed in the shoulder).

 

Anyway, about the above quote. The rockwalk scene was ridiculous, of course. But you're not supposed to believe that ol Bets dies when he gets to pinned to the (spoiler) train wall via knife through priestshoulder. At least give the flick that.

 

post #12 of 27

Ugh.  Priest barely feels like an actual movie - its just a handful of scenes that make up an act or so of a much bigger movie.  And yet, despite only feeling like half a movie, its still an absolute fucking slog.  I don't even understand how a movie so streamlined ends up being so boring.  Everything is marginalized - characters, backstory, world building are all tossed aside in favor of people riding bikes across the desert.  I'd say 1/3 of the run time is devoted to people riding bikes across the desert.  This was the longest 80 minute movie I've ever seen.

 

That animated intro was kind of neat though.

post #13 of 27

I am planing to watch this movie tonight with my friends.I really like the trailer and so i gave a great expectation of this movie.Now lets see whats happen.

By the way guys last night I watched a movie which name is Stake Land.Its also horror movie like Priest.Its a really great movie.I think you people should watch this movie.You can Watch Stake Land Online here.

post #14 of 27

I have A Knight's Tale playing in the background.  Bettany shows more star-power in a few seconds of his introduction in that film than in the whole of Priest.  So boring...

 

I'm not really a Christopher Young fan, but the score was pretty good from what I heard (I dozed off for much of the middle of the movie).  I thought the opening animation sequence came across a bit cheap.  Something that tried to kick the movie off with a nice bang (like Kung Fu Panda), but felt completely underwhelming and lifeless.

post #15 of 27

Oh god damn, fuck this movie. Fuck every single fucking thing about this movie. It felt like a thirteen year old boy was writing the script as they were filming because every single fucking scene screams 'oh my god, wouldn't this just be soooo badass if...'.

 

And fuck Stewart for claiming 'adapted from the graphic novel by'. There is not one fucking thing, save for the desert, that this piece of shit has in common with the manga. I know, I know, it's manga and CHUD seems to be against that, but it's Shakespeare to this.

 

Paul Bettany, do better work. You were in Master and Commander, one of the most severely underrated films of the last decade. You're brilliant. You made Wimbledon a halfway decent movie and you know what? You could be an action star, I honestly think you could. But Jesus H, stop, for the love of god, stop. I don't care if Stewart releases the incriminating photos he has of you, just get away. Far, far away.

post #16 of 27

Seriously, the guy either needs a new agent or, if he picks his own scripts, hire someone else to do it. His talent is quite literally being wasted at thispoint.

post #17 of 27

Paul Bettany's agent:

 

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I'm guessng that he keeps doing this schlock because producers have incriminating video of Bettany's wife going "A to A" & he has yet to realize that it's from an actual film.

 

Seriously tho, I'd kill to see Bettany in a Hellblazer HBO Series exec produced by Francis Lawrence.

post #18 of 27

I think it's kinda of awesome that Bettany mixes it up. He wanted to play action hero for awhile, so he did. This movie was certainly not incredible. But I didn't find it to be the affront folks are labeling it. That said, I'm thinking this is the last time we'll be seeing Bettany spar with otherworldly things.

post #19 of 27

Bettany can't carry an action movie.  He isn't terrible, but he doesn't really have the swagger, charisma, or physicality to make him a convincing lead in something like this.  He's just kind of ... there.  Maybe a lot of that is the weird indentured servant type relationship he has with Scott Stewart.  Could also be the shitty scripts.  

 

But man, Dogville, Master and Commander, etc.  The guy can do great work.  Just not in this genre.

post #20 of 27

One thing you left out is that it has absolutely NOTHING to do with the comic. Nothing. Maybe just the title. This movie should have been done from Urban's point of view. He was wasted on this movie.

post #21 of 27

Haven't seen the movie, but I read this surprisingly interesting positive review... http://filmfreakcentral.net/screenreviews/priest11.htm

 

Any thoughts? The writer may be reaching a bit, but I'm intrigued by the ideas he mentions.

post #22 of 27

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Haven't seen the movie, but I read this surprisingly interesting positive review... http://filmfreakcentral.net/screenreviews/priest11.htm

 

Any thoughts? The writer may be reaching a bit, but I'm intrigued by the ideas he mentions

 

Admittedly, some of the world-building going on (the confessionals lining the streets, the vampire reservations, etc) might be kind of interesting, but Stewart doesn't seem to care about any of it and doesn't give it space to breathe.  He just seems so anxious to get his stupid steam-punk motorcycles in front of his green-screens.  

 

Stewart directs this movie like hes racing against the clock, as if the scenes involving characters interacting with one another are eating up precious seconds that could be used for sweeping shots of CG vistas and stock apocalyptic imagery.

post #23 of 27
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One thing you left out is that it has absolutely NOTHING to do with the comic. Nothing. Maybe just the title. This movie should have been done from Urban's point of view. He was wasted on this movie.


I understand a terrible movie when I see one, but to just say 'I'll adapt this (admittedly really cool) manwha' and then throw everything about it out the window? I don't know if it's balls, studio interference or just plain dumb, dumb, dumb. Now we'll never get a proper telling, nor will the series itself ever get finished.

 

post #24 of 27

My sister in law came back from the Redbox with this, and I figured I'd hang out and watch it while I get some work done... after all, I told my wife, it has to be better than Legion, right?

 

Holy crap.

 

At least some of the humor in Legion was intentional.

post #25 of 27

Yeah Netflix delivered and I watched. Not a good movie. Seems like a waste all around.

 

Have to agree Bettany deserves better. Urban was pretty great though. Shame the film wasn't about him in some low rent Underworld western.

 

Look forward to seeing him as Dredd.

post #26 of 27

It wasn't good, but I couldn't muster up a lot of hate for it. Production design-wise, it was fine - really derivative, but actually not bad. I felt like it was about 3 script polishes/revisions away from being a fun B-movie; more world building, better characterization. There were a lot of fun ideas and concepts thrown in, but the film did nothing with them.

 

Bettany was utterly miscast. I just wasn't buying him as a badass. Urban was great, though; he was in full scenery chewing mode, and the movie came to life whenever he was onscreen. Maggie Q was wasted. 

 

I kinda liked the vampires in the movie. Pure monsters, and freaky eyeless ones to boot. I wish the film had done more to explain the relationship between the familiars and the vampires, and what Urban's character was, exactly.

 

Bettany's character using stones in the air as leverage was a big FUCK YOU to the audience, though. Not over-the-top cool. Just stupid.

post #27 of 27

Finally caught this ($5 at Walmart's Black Friday promo). Can't really recommend it, it's just sort of... there. Imagery was very JUDGE DREDD + ALIEN 3 + EQUILIBRIUM. I wasn't expecting the Western vibe (are the vamps un-PC "Injun"-analogs?), but appreciated it. If people think the UNDERWORLD series(which I have a soft spot for) is dour and self-serious, this flick takes the cake. ANd the monsters here are MUCH better than the goofy putty-undead from I AM LEGEND, design-wise and execution-wise. I did like the small world-building flourishes as mentioned here, but I think DAYBREAKERS and STAKELAND both handle that better. And both of those superior post-apocalyptic vampire movies develop more relatable characters as well. I had a fear that the derivative action/horror script I wrote 8 years might never get made, but hell, if PRIEST can make it to theaters, maybe I should dust it off.

 

JONAH HEX might be a better "Weird Western", but only because of the lead character,

 

 

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