OLIVIA WILDE FINDS THE WORDS TO DESCRIBE BRADLEY COOPER

So whens Cooper going to get that restraining order Ms.Rappe?

(I keeed I keeeed!)

Looking forward to Savages.

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Originally Posted by The Rain Dog 

So whens Cooper going to get that restraining order Ms.Rappe?

 

(I keeed I keeeed!)

Hey, he makes the headlines. I just write them!

Jesus, you just put Cooper in the same sentence as Fassbender, Hamm, Hardy and Dicaprio... I don't even know what to say.

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Originally Posted by Evi 

Jesus, you just put Cooper in the same sentence as Fassbender, Hamm, Hardy and Dicaprio... I don't even know what to say.

As a potential.  I said if he kept it up -- if his talent can match his brain, than I don't see why he might not be able to be among those actors.  Tom Hanks was goofy comedy guy for how long before he came out as a dramatic actor?   It was only a few short months ago that people were bitching Jon Hamm hadn't shown enough range between The Town and Mad Men.

Clearly, my larger point was lost.

Not on all of us.

Haha Elizabeth, I get that you think he's a hottee, but the guy is NOT a good actor. It's not that he hasn't shown range, he's not even that good at what he does.

Lotsa people forget Michael Fassbinder used to star in Hex.

I'm just sayin'.

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Originally Posted by Evi 

Haha Elizabeth, I get that you think he's a hottee, but the guy is NOT a good actor. It's not that he hasn't shown range, he's not even that good at what he does.

No need to go stating your opinion like its empirical objective fact.

Unless you have some mathmatical equation you can show us to support your contention?

And he was in Jonah Hex.  Heh.
 

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Originally Posted by LaurenOrtega 

Lotsa people forget Michael Fassbinder used to star in Hex.

 

I'm just sayin'.

Oh god your right! Disturbing.

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Originally Posted by The Rain Dog 

No need to go stating your opinion like its empirical objective fact.

 

Unless you have some mathmatical equation you can show us to support your contention?

You're absolutely right. Now lets sit back and let time tell whether he's "Oscar Winner Bradley Cooper" or "lousy-actor-who's-reached-the-peak-of-his-potential Bradley Cooper"

Oh, let's let Evi clutch his pearls that I impugned the reputation of Fassbender, et.al by including Cooper among them.  The guy clearly peaked with The Wedding Crashers, it was foolish to theorize.

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Originally Posted by Evi 

You're absolutely right. Now lets sit back and let time tell whether he's "Oscar Winner Bradley Cooper" or "lousy-actor-who's-reached-the-peak-of-his-potential Bradley Cooper"

I don't think anyones going to say he's the next DeNiro or a Gary Oldman-method man type - but the guy has the makings of one hell of a movie star. Different proposition, but equally important in the pantheon of Hollywood movie actors.

Hollywood needs its Brandos but it also needs its Harrison Fords and Brad Pitts.

Like I said if you have some quantifiable scientific way of proving your personal opinion as fact I'd love to read it.

Seriously, exactly which movie was it that proved he has even the potential to be Harrison Ford or Brad Pitt? Honest question, because I kind of feel like I'm taking crazy pills here.

And please leave that "scientific proof" thing, because by that theory I can go around screaming "Billy Ray Cyrus will be the next great dramatic actor!!" and no one can vehemently disagree without qualifying it with an "In my oh so humble opinion"

Honestly there's not a lot of point in offering up suggestions - you obviously wouldn't agree no matter what I came up with - which is fine, truly, you're completely entitled to your opinion about him. I happen to think the guy has that inexplicable 'X Factor' people talk about when discussing major movie stars. He has charm to burn, is serious about his craft, seems to be making some very interesting career decisions post-Hangover 1 & 2 and strikes me as a possible star that deserves longer than Warhols infamous fifteen minutes.

...and I'm not even that massive a fan of the guy - but the potential seems plain to me.

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Originally Posted by Evi 

Seriously, exactly which movie was it that proved he has even the potential to be Harrison Ford or Brad Pitt?

Limitless was pretty good. And he was good on Alias.   His body of work has largely been "Gotta eat" type of films, and I'm not going to hold those against any actor.  It's what they do once they've got a name that actually counts.  Cooper's next movies decide that.  Let's see what he does in an indie thriller or two...if you can keep the knee from jerking too hard.

It's funny, I remember hearing the same kind of "Pretty boy!!" shrieking about DiCaprio, Heath Ledger, George Clooney, Ben Affleck, Brad Pitt and Hugh Jackman for ages (you could even throw Viggo Mortensen in for color), and it's been hilarious watching fandom trip over themselves to dream cast them ever since.   

So yeah. Call me when one of these huffy, red-eyed posts is actually right.  It would be an exotic sight.

Two things, firstly you're only judging by the ones who ended up being wrong, not by cries of "pretty boy!" when people were casting someone like Freddie Prinze Jr...

But either way, it's pretty condescending to believe that THAT'S my issue with him. I have nothing against "Gotta eat" type of films. THOR is one, yet Chris Hemsworth's talent and charisma remains clearly visible, so did the talent of every one of those actors you mention, within their first couple of roles. I've seen most of Cooper's outings, save for Limitless and I've yet to see anything resembling that.

In my humble opinion.

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Originally Posted by Evi 

Two things, firstly you're only judging by the ones who ended up being wrong, not by cries of "pretty boy!" when people were casting someone like Freddie Prinze Jr...

 

But either way, it's pretty condescending to believe that THAT'S my issue with him. I have nothing against "Gotta eat" type of films. THOR is one, yet Chris Hemsworth's talent and charisma remains clearly visible, so did the talent of every one of those actors you mention, within their first couple of roles. I've seen most of Cooper's outings, save for Limitless and I've yet to see anything resembling that.

 

In my humble opinion.

Again - no one is wrong here per se, some just obviously see different things in the guy (or not) than others.

It'll be interesting to see where his career goes in the coming years in light of this discussion.

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Originally Posted by Evi 

Two things, firstly you're only judging by the ones who ended up being wrong, not by cries of "pretty boy!" when people were casting someone like Freddie Prinze Jr...

 

But either way, it's pretty condescending to believe that THAT'S my issue with him. I have nothing against "Gotta eat" type of films. THOR is one, yet Chris Hemsworth's talent and charisma remains clearly visible, so did the talent of every one of those actors you mention, within their first couple of roles. I've seen most of Cooper's outings, save for Limitless and I've yet to see anything resembling that.

 

In my humble opinion.

Opinion! There you go!  Can...can we actually have different ones...and...wait, no! This is the Internet.

And condescending? Really? That's a bit dramatic.  It was condescending to get the old "I get that you think he's HOT, but..." comment, but I laughed it off because I get it every single time I write anything favorable about a male actor.  If I called it out with a "that's so condescending!"  I'd have been told to grow a thicker skin.  

For my money, Cooper's got charisma in spades.  It may be a little different than some of the names in this thread, but he's definately got something.

Also, he is way hot. 

I don't care much for this Brad Cooper boy. I will not be watching his pictures.

I'm pro-Cooper. I enjoy watching a leading man who actually has obvious charisma,  intelligence and a strong sense of comic timing. It seems bizarre to me that people are pissing themselves and labelling Cooper as "talentless" when we currently live in a world where Sam Worthington, Garret Hedlund and Channing Tatum are viewed as go-to leads. 

Give me your quirky Coopers, Evans, Labeoufs and Reynolds any day of the week! 

As a confident heterosexual man I can say without reservation that Cooper has the goods. He has been good in most of what he has been in. The Hangover 2 stunk for him I think. Nothing stood out about him in that entry.

Devin says Cooper is a frat boy and that sort of seems spot on. Elizabeth is right about many of the other big name actors out there the thing is those guys can coast on what little chops they do have as well.

Cooper at least is trying different things and branching out. Matthew McConaghey I am looking at you.

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Originally Posted by Johnny Daywalker 

Cooper at least is trying different things and branching out. Matthew McConaghey I am looking at you.

That's why I like the Brad Pitt comparison personally. Pitts not the worlds greatest thespian but is the consumate movie star yet has always tried to buck the obvious and easy career path his looks and charisma could have given him in favor of trying to stretch and challenge himself and his audience. I'm not saying Coopers the next Pitt, but he certainly seems to be more interested in that kind of career than the bland McConaghey route.

I apologise if i was being condescending when I said you think he's hot, I was simply repeating the same thing you've written plenty of times, but I wasn't being dramatic - actually I'm pretty sure that's the exact word for what you were being since I didn't once imply that was my issue with him. In fact, there isn't a single reply to me in this thread where you *weren't* being condescending, so I'm out. I've said my piece, if people disagree it's all good.

EDIT: And RD, I actually think McConaughey's a good reference point in terms of what he can do. The guy might be a serviceable lead for certain flicks but I'm pretty sure he doesn't have a Twelve Monkeys or Jesse James in him...

Really, Mr "What You Said Is So Ridiculous I Don't Even Know How To Respond"?

C'mon Evi. You normally make more sense than this.

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Originally Posted by Bucho 

 

Really, Mr "What You Said Is So Ridiculous I Don't Even Know How To Respond"?

 

C'mon Evi. You normally make more sense than this.

Mmmhmmm, and she had all the right in the world to respond in kind (frankly, I thought and still think the idea of putting him in line with DiCaprio, Hardy and my precious Fassbender is so fucking silly that my reasoning would be self-evident). Either way I eventually explained myself and tried to cut out the snarkiness.

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Originally Posted by Evi 

EDIT: And RD, I actually think McConaughey's a good reference point in terms of what he can do. The guy might be a serviceable lead for certain flicks but I'm pretty sure he doesn't have a Twelve Monkeys or Jesse James in him...

Great point and agreed. Cooper hasn't done anything worth the vitriol seen in this thread. The man is good looking and talented but has not put his stamp on anything yet.

Limitless was close so close but that last 5 minutes is a giant fuck you to anyone with a brain to understand how our global monetary system works.

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Originally Posted by Evi 

Mmmhmmm, and she had all the right in the world to respond in kind (frankly, I thought and still think the idea of putting him in line with DiCaprio, Hardy and my precious Fassbender is so fucking silly that my reasoning would be self-evident). Either way I eventually explained myself and tried to cut out the snarkiness.

Your opinion on the actors is fine and dandy with me, I was talking about the condescension thing.

I have to side with Evi on this. If Cooper's current CV is being used as proof that he has the potential to be in the same league as the DiCaprio/Hardy/Fassbender group of great young actors, then pretty much every actor currently working could be extended the same benefit of the doubt. I'm not saying he's not capable of attaining that next level of quality, just that there's precious little to hang such a prediction on at this stage. Certainly Franco has a 100% more persuasive case based on 127 HOURS alone.

I think The A-Team was proof enough that Cooper has the chops and charisma of a potential movie star.  Does he classify as a great young actor?  I think its too soon to tell, although I'm with Evi in that lumping him in with Fassbender, Hardy, and DiCaprio is kind of ridiculous.  Hopefully he continues to mix it up.  Less romcoms / fratboy comedies, more Midnight Meat Trains. 

Also, I don't think Cooper has the geek cred that guys like Fassbender have.  Cooper's name was brought up a bunch in the fancasting discussion for The Stand.  Personally, I think thats a great call, and I think he needs a project like that to get the geeks in his corner.   

The comparison was more "these are guys who seem to be making movies for grown-ups!" rather than any deeper comparison of their acting prowess...THAT was the point that seemed to get lost in all the hyperbole.

I lumped him in there NOT because of his past CV (I merely pointed out it wasn't enough to damn him on) but the intelligence that I've seen out of him on this Hangover II junket.  Maybe he won't ever be as good as the names I dropped, but he's certainly *trying* to be in the league.  He's got a cover story in Esquire right now that's kind of interesting -- the female interviewer was so busy trying to fuck him she got a bit lost and overwrought, but he is clearly pretty frustrated with his current image. He's hungry to do more and to go indie, which is more than I can say for actors like Gerard Butler, who seems happy being nothing but tabloid staples, or even Jeremy Renner, who seems to have gone Hollywood franchise crazy instead of doing the kind of stuff Cooper's latching onto.

I'm desperate for the glory days of the adult thriller, I latch onto anyone who seems capable of pulling off the old Harrison Ford vehicle (the Witness / Presumed Innocent era Ford) or the young and thoughtful Jeff Bridges (not that he currently slums it, mind you, he still sticks to those same films...it's just no one appreciated them back then!)  Those were good days. And with stuff like "The Town" "The Lincoln Lawyer" and even "Limitless", I want to believe they're here again.