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Walk, don't run...what kind of Zombies do you like?

post #1 of 36
8/19/03 at 2:00pm
Thread Starter 
Recently, around the internet people have been slamming the new "wave" of zombie movies. I've read that zombies should not run, they are better when they stumble and shamble around.

I was wondering what everyone thought.

Some very good movies have 'running' zombies.

28 Days Later (I know, I know, they're really not zombies) used the fact that a fast brutal attack can happen anywhere.

Return of the Living Dead and it's sequels had animate, running crafty zombies.

these movies work, despite not fitting into the "slow zombie" mold.

on the other hand, Fulci's and Romero's zombies relied on their strength in numbers to get you, but they handled themselves on their own when they had to. So these are movies where slower zombies also worked.

I guess it boils down to opinion: What do you prefer your zombies to do?

I personally don't care, i love zombies.
And fast moving zombies can add some real scares if done right. (I hear that the Dawn of the Dead Remake will have very fast, ferocious zombies).

Thanks.
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post #2 of 36
8/19/03 at 2:34pm
I like Chinese zombies. They don't walk, they don't run.. they JUMP.
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post #3 of 36
8/19/03 at 3:19pm
eh...I love zombies that turn into vampires after drinking blood wich in turn, turn people into zombies, who then turn into vampires after drinking blood.

Don't belive me, well take a gander at Vampire Hunters!

Cheers!
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post #4 of 36
8/19/03 at 3:31pm
In the zombie script I wrote a while ago, I used *both* types of zombies. I mean, isn't it common sense that a fresh corpse would have most of its musculature intact, and could thus move a lot quicker than its shambling, skin-n-bones counterparts? I thought it was a cool contrast between the different types of zombies...the older corpses moved in methodical, shuffling herds, while the fresher zombies would suddenly break out of the pack and sprint after the characters.

<Nerd Police break down door, beat Slater with sticks, drag him away.>
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post #5 of 36
8/19/03 at 3:33pm
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ALIENinfluence:
If a zombie can do a mean cha cha or mambo, that saves him from getting one in the head from my .45.
Dancing Zombies are the Best.

But Seriously folks, how scary would zombies be if they move a meter in 2 hours and a half?

You'd have to be pretty stoopid to get swarmed by those slow moving meatbags.
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post #6 of 36
8/19/03 at 3:37pm
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Slater hoards electricity:
<Nerd Police break down door, beat Slater with sticks, drag him away.>
Let go of our Nerd you bastards!!!

Hey, I like, so when are you going into production Slater?

I mean come on those slow moving fuckers could be chopped down at will.
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post #7 of 36
8/19/03 at 3:47pm
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HellSpawn:
so when are you going into production Slater?
If God continues his hatestreak, it'll be right around the 17th of Never.
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post #8 of 36
8/19/03 at 3:51pm
I myself perfer the shambling spanish ones...
like in the templar series

but the best zombie ever is George W...
he is the king
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post #9 of 36
8/19/03 at 3:57pm
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Originally posted by Slater hoards electricity:
If God continues his hatestreak, it'll be right around the 17th of Never.
Eh...with Bill J on special effects, the Chud member as cast and crew, all you need is a location and a camera...

And the Blair witch of zombie is born...

I can personally interview the girls for the gratuitous nudy scene in the shower.

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post #10 of 36
8/19/03 at 5:50pm
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ALIENinfluence:
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instant_zombie:
I myself perfer the shambling spanish ones...
like in the templar series

but the best zombie ever is George W...
he is the king
Hey! Don't forget ALGORE, the zombie from the 86th dimension! No political party has a corner on the zombie market. Shit, I saw Strom Thurmond shambling by the Walmart on the way into work this morning...
LMAO now that's a good one
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post #11 of 36
8/19/03 at 6:04pm
Ever since seeing Return of the Living Dead, I've liked the faster ones better.

Picture it. You're standing in the middle of a street, and out of an alley comes a group of shuffling zombies. From the other direction, a zombie lunges full-tilt out of the shadows at you. Which are you going to feel more threatened by?

And there you go. wink
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post #12 of 36
8/19/03 at 6:28pm
I think if its more an action zombie move they should move slow. If its more plot driven then walk at a normal pace.

My only complaint of Running zombies is woulnt rigamortis set in 24hours after the body is dead
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post #13 of 36
8/19/03 at 6:40pm
The DVD i have has the alt take where he says Shotgun. I got the Double Disk Army of Darkness that was 50 bucks that is a limite number ever made
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post #14 of 36
8/19/03 at 6:56pm
You silly people, al gore isnt a zombie, he's a robot

but anyway, whatabout the res. evil game remake? you'd kill a shambling zombie, then half an hour later he'd get back up, and grow claws and teeth, then run at you like rosanne to an all-you-can-eat buffet
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post #15 of 36
8/19/03 at 7:10pm
If you like dancing zombies, you need to check out The Happiness of the Katakuris. There is a lovely zombie dance number towards the end.

I love running, jumping zombies with guns a la Versus, but usually I prefer the more traditional shambling type.

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post #16 of 36
8/19/03 at 7:40pm
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HellSpawn:
You'd have to be pretty stoopid to get swarmed by those slow moving meatbags.
It's that kind of thinking that's gonna turn you into zombie food. "They're too slow to be dangerous. See, I can just walk around them. Ha ha, zombies are stupid... hey, where'd that one come from? Waitaminnit, I'm surrounded! AAAAAAAAAGGHHH!!!!!!"

Or you'll get nailed by the one that sneaks up behind you and bites you on the forearm. Then you'll have to hide it from your friends until you turn. Sad way to go really, taking a bullet to the head from your best friend.

Oh, my personal preference is the fast moving zombies. I really liked Demons, so any zombie movie that has the zombies moving like the demons were gets my vote.

Now the perfect zombie movie would be one where the newly developed Trioxin 269 turns women into supermodel nympho zombies. The only cure is for the government to round up the zombie hotties and force them to have lesbian sex with other supermodels who have been innoculated and are using antidote-filled strap-ons.

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post #17 of 36
8/19/03 at 7:51pm
I prefer the classic, shambling ones. The ones that you can easily run away from...but are everywhere, and when in numbers watch out. That's what always creeped me out about the Romero movies. No one ever really seemed safe. When the dead walk the earth it seemed like even going to sleep at night was a bad idea because you never knew when one would show up (which is also why in 28 Days Later them camping out in the middle of no where had me on edge.)
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post #18 of 36
8/19/03 at 7:52pm
[quote]soultaker:
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Now the perfect zombie movie would be one where the newly developed Trioxin 269 turns women into supermodel nympho zombies. The only cure is for the government to round up the zombie hotties and force them to have lesbian sex with other supermodels who have been innoculated and are using antidote-filled strap-ons.
um....can I get that on DVD, in a plain wrapper please?
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post #19 of 36
8/20/03 at 8:13am
Thread Starter 
See i dig the movies that can mix the two, but then again people would complain that the zombies aren't constant from start to finish.

If I made a zombie movie, I would have certain scenes of both, like recently dead are slow, but once movement comes back naturally, they move faster.

But I will say that the jumping, flipping zombies of Zombi 3 and AfterDeath ( Oh, alright...Zombie4:AfterDeath...happy?) are a bit too much. All jumping and back flips...

I can't stand it when a zombie goes from being a revived corpse to a revived corpse SUPERCHARGED by supernatural means.

Give me Nightmare City any day.
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post #20 of 36
8/20/03 at 9:43am
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Ashxking2001:
My only complaint of Running zombies is woulnt rigamortis set in 24hours after the body is dead
If you're thinking logically...wouldn't corpses not be walking at all after 24 hours? How are their brains sending electrical signals to their muscles if they're dead? How do the muscles function without blood? And HEY, I just thought of something... zombies don't exist.
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post #21 of 36
8/20/03 at 9:48am
NINJA ZOMBIES.....

Think about it!
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post #22 of 36
8/20/03 at 10:01am
Zombie in a trash metal band touring the States, but no one knows they're really Zombies they all think it's an act... see... and mysterious disappearances would happen around this band... but nothing really linking them to the bizarre disappearances... and then a lovely undercover reporter is sent to investigate the group posing as a groupie... but she uncovers the horrific truth... and vile mayhem ensues...

huh, huh...

At the end it’s revealed that they aren’t zombies at all but aliens that come form the dark side of the moon…

Huh, huh...
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post #23 of 36
8/20/03 at 10:03am
They're dead bodies, they shouldn't be bouncing off the goddamn walls. Next you'll want them all running around with Freddy-style razor-gloves on their hands and Jason hockey masks stuck over their heads. And hey, why shouldn't all zombies carry machetes and have their faces made-up like insane clowns? Would it be too much to ask to give them like, Alien-type jaws that shoot out of their faces? Or would that conflict too much with the sacred zombie "Mythos" and "Canon"?
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post #24 of 36
8/20/03 at 10:09am
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Englebert:
They're dead bodies, they shouldn't be bouncing off the goddamn walls.
Think outside the box mate, you're just a pawn of the MAN, man!



By the way, dead bodies, they don't do Jack shite, just to let you know wink
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post #25 of 36
8/20/03 at 10:54am
I'm not particular on my zombie-brew of choice. Ninja Zombies? Magic Zombies? Shambling Zombies? Shaving Zombies? As long as you have the undead in your flick, I'm there and willing to accept whatever you have them do. I *really* need higher standards.
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post #26 of 36
8/20/03 at 11:14am
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HellSpawn:
By the way, dead bodies, they don't do Jack shite, just to let you know wink
I'm just sayin', if you're gonna make them walk, they shouldn't be able to beat the four-minute mile. A three-legged dog ain't gonna beat Seabiscuit. You can't go from 0 to 60 in a broken down wreck. Some semblance of the ordinary limitations of physical reality can actually help a movie, you know, even if you're addressing absurd ideas. That's part of why Romero's movies worked so well.
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post #27 of 36
8/20/03 at 11:17am
I like my zombies to waddle as if they were standing in line to get on Space Mountain

that is what made Michael Myers so goddamned creepy

now, I like my ghosts to move at lightning speeds a la Samara/Sadako and the Juon ghosts

That stuff makes me fill my pants

but zombies should be clocked at about .6-.8 mph or get a speeding ticket

/Frank Booth

AND DO YOU KNOW WHAT A SPEEDING TICKET IS?!?!??!?! IT'S A BULLET FROM MY FUCKING GUN!!!!!"

/fRANK bOOTH
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post #28 of 36
8/20/03 at 11:17am
Just to clarify...

Even "running" zombies shouldn't actually SPRINT in a perfectly straight and orderly line. These are still decomposing corpses, not Olympic athletes. Their movements should be awkward and shambling...just *faster* than the other, more-decomposed zombies.

I saw a few scenes from the Dawn of the Dead remake, and it looked absolutely ridiculous watching the zombies sprint around like normal human beings, like I was watching outtakes from "The Warriors" or something. Just an awful, terrible idea.
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post #29 of 36
8/20/03 at 11:47am
Take PotC: CotBP... the crew of the black pearl are all zombies and they can move and fight and think etc... And it worked.

By the way I think it's pretty thoughtless to call them zombies, I think they prefer to be called "a life deficient person".
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post #30 of 36
8/20/03 at 11:49am
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Slater hoards electricity:
Just to clarify...

Even "running" zombies shouldn't actually SPRINT in a perfectly straight and orderly line. These are still decomposing corpses, not Olympic athletes. Their movements should be awkward and shambling...just *faster* than the other, more-decomposed zombies.
yeah, what Slater said.

but with ninjas, with shurikens and kamas.
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post #31 of 36
8/20/03 at 11:51am
but, they were cursed in PotC, not the dead re-animated

a whole different ball game

I did notice that, in the moonlight, they would become more prone to having limbs removed than in the light

but it is still too early to get into that

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post #32 of 36
8/20/03 at 11:57am
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Slater hoards electricity:
In the zombie script I wrote a while ago, I used *both* types of zombies. I mean, isn't it common sense that a fresh corpse would have most of its musculature intact, and could thus move a lot quicker than its shambling, skin-n-bones counterparts? I thought it was a cool contrast between the different types of zombies...the older corpses moved in methodical, shuffling herds, while the fresher zombies would suddenly break out of the pack and sprint after the characters.

&lt;Nerd Police break down door, beat Slater with sticks, drag him away.&gt;
I used the same concept in my zombie feature script.
It just made more sense to me and it gave me a great way of having some quick scary action where a couple of fresh zombies attack and also the more traditional hordes of lumbering ones.
This way you didnt know when you saw a zombie if its was slow or speedy.
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post #33 of 36
8/20/03 at 1:25pm
I suppose you could have it so, the "recently dead" who are rising are your bog standard romero zombie, but people bitten and "turned" are more agile...

I do like the idea's from some Fan Fiction, such as some Zombies being "leaders" for whatever reason they are a bit more intelligent and agile, and control the herds....
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post #34 of 36
8/20/03 at 1:34pm
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HellSpawn:
NINJA ZOMBIES.....

Think about it!
Ninjas are awesome! But NINJA ZOMBIES!?

My head would just explode.
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post #35 of 36
8/20/03 at 3:31pm
Slow zombies work better for me. What kind of chance do you have with fast zombies? You get tired, they don't. What makes me excruciatingly uncomfortable is to see someone overcome by the slowbies, when you know the guy could've made it out... "GET THE KEYS OUT OF THE DAMN SLIDING DOOR... GET YOUR FEET INTO THE DAMN TRUCK... GET YOUR ASS UP THE LADDER!... MOVE, MAN, MOOOVE! PUMP THE GAS INTO THE TRUCK AND GET OUT!" Of course, when the elevator door opens and scores of dead people jump on you, fast or slow, you are so screwed.
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post #36 of 36
8/20/03 at 6:55pm
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HellSpawn:
But Seriously folks, how scary would zombies be if they move a meter in 2 hours and a half?

You'd have to be pretty stoopid to get swarmed by those slow moving meatbags.
Here's a little site that shows how the slow moving meatbags do it. Damn their zombie patience!

<a href="http://kevan.org/proce55ing/zombies/" target="_blank">http://kevan.org/proce55ing/zombies/</a>
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