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post #101 of 141

Was 3 eps behind and caught up yesterday.  Holy shit did it get worse.  This is The Killing bad.  I'll finish off the first season but there is too much stupid to watch a 2nd season.

 

My fav stupid was when the 2 harnessed kids were talking about people looking at them funny and 2 extras just stare at them to hammer home the point.

 

It's bad when the only decent character is either a rapist or gave up a girl to be raped. 

post #102 of 141

Best episode of the season. Finally some sense of movement, that the writers actually have something on their mind about the future of this show.

 

 

post #103 of 141
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once you notice the way Patton whistles every time he says a word with the letter "S", you can't un-notice it.


Damn you for pointing this out!

 

Show doesn't deserve it but for some strange reason I'm actually looking forward to the big 2hr season finale. Maybe it's just that I like those new Slender Man aliens. Is this going to get a second season, do we know?

 

post #104 of 141

Yes. It has already been renewed, and is pretty much TNT's highest rated show.

 

So expect a cliffhanger.

 

We should get a good idea of if this show has any balls at all with this episode. I expect no balls. I would be happy with one ball (someone that matters dies). Two balls (them actually killing someone that is openly and continually betraying the human race, and/or the death of a kid or Christian Girl Who Is Annoying and Appears to be Twelve Years Old) would be too much to hope for.

post #105 of 141

Falling Skies and balls. HAH!

 

They didn't have the balls to have Czerny and his crew killed. They probably don't know the meaning of the word. Seriously, there is no possible iteration of context, circumstances, personalities involved or historical era, in all of humanity's history where these people do not end up dead. None. Period. This seriously is one of the most unbelievable (in the literal sense of the word) things I've seen a human do in a work of fiction. I wish I was able to speak to the show's writers and ask them how they came to this resolution.

post #106 of 141
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So the two hour season finale was really just two episodes strung together.  The first hour "Mutiny" was okay, though it seems that there almost always needs to be an obligatory "human resistance turns against each other" episode in sci fi shows nowadays.  Seems to me the whole episode could have been avoided if Will Patton had just told his senior commanders what the deal was.  So it seems the 4th and 5th Mass Infantry got wiped out, along with Command (the 1st?), leaving only the 2nd Mass unit ready for fighting, so at the end of the episode the remaining fighters mount up and head out to take down the alien structure - despite the fact that it seems like a futile effort.

 

The final episode wasn't that bad... at least until the end, lol.  I don't know why Will Patton's character seems to inspire such loyalty, because his plan to blow up the Alien Structure was pretty bad.  Espcially after his scouts discovered the Skidders were waiting for them and 75% of his force was dead or missing.  If I remember correctly, there were 200 fighting men in the 2nd Mass, now there's probably closer to 125?  Or less?

 

The "Last Stand" scene at the school wasn't bad, though the radio frequency thing was kind of odd.  I mean, the aliens basically blew a gasket after that happened and started to recall all their troops, but that seems weird to me since it was just a small blip in their overall campaign.  Not only that, but they could just change their frequency again and mount another attack, couldn't they?  But they kept the same frequency that was used to "disrupt" them for some reason.  Oh, and the new "mech killer" bullets didn't seem to work all that well.  The one Pope shot initially blew a golfball sized-hole in the mech head they had, yet when a real mech shows up, it takes 30 men emptying an entire clip into it to take it down?  Seems like 4-5 well placed shots should do it.

 

Finally, Tom hitting an alien ship dead on with an RPG was just... I mean, I get that you need a little suspension of disbelief, but its not like that was a guided missile.  That shot was one in a million that it would actually hit something.  So that part I kinda shook my head at.

 

But then, on their way home, the aliens land (apparently they didn't notice a massive brightly lit spaceship hovering directly above them), and they invite Tom to come with them because their "curious," and the big cliffhanger is this Close Encounters shot of Tom getting on the alien spacecraft with Will Patton looking like he has to fart just standing by watching the whole thing.

 

Over all, it wasn't a bad 2 hours of television, but the show constantly falls short of being a "Fuck Yeah!" must watch series.  I'm glad it got renewed, because I'm hoping season two improves.  I'd like to see more of Pope, and less of people acting like complete retards.  The Crazy Black Kid who ran away and told the Skidders everything about the 2nd Mass plans was so avoidable.  I mean, did no one notice how weird he was acting?  And why was he privy to all their military plans and stuff?  That type of thing just bugs me because the characters of a show should at least be as smart as the people watching it, and you could see that kid betraying everyone coming a mile away.

post #107 of 141

Underwhelmed as hell. So many missed opportunities for this to really work. Suicide missions, last stands, resolutions of (feeble) romantic tensions, betrayals and absolutely everything fell flat. And that ending. Ugh. It would take a miracle for me to bother with the next season.

post #108 of 141

I know this is a show about aliens, but I'd like to see some humans for once.

post #109 of 141

Did I hear they were getting a new showrunner for next season?  Normally that makes me nervous, but in this case, not so much.

post #110 of 141
post #111 of 141
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Hmmm.  Something tells me that getting a showrunner who's credits include "Stargate Universe" and "Caprica" is not the best idea, considering how those series turned out.

post #112 of 141

"Caprica" was a failure, but there are large swaths of it that I at least remember, which I'll be hard pressed to do when it comes to this season of television.

 

What a limp noodle of a show, devoid of anything resembling a personality. Stuff happens, people talk, and then the credits roll. The production values are there, but the story is so flat and uninvolving.

post #113 of 141

I liked SGU and Caprica. Both were better shows than this one. If this becomes a better show and is then canceled, I'll take it over a mediocre show that runs 7 years...

post #114 of 141
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"Caprica" was a failure, but there are large swaths of it that I at least remember, which I'll be hard pressed to do when it comes to this season of television.

 

What a limp noodle of a show, devoid of anything resembling a personality. Stuff happens, people talk, and then the credits roll. The production values are there, but the story is so flat and uninvolving.


Stargate Universe was the best thing associated with that "brand" because at least they tried something entirely different and Carlyle was doing great work.  It was approaching something very, very good towards the end of its run.

 

 I watched this show (and I figured out the "twist" pretty early on) but all of the complaints leveled towards it are extremely spot on. This show has soooo much room for potential but it comes off as so lightweight and melodramatic at times that it just falls flat on it's face.  I guess we shouldn't expect much from the network that gives us the Pseudo-Lesbian Sexual Tension Detective Hour and whatever Will Smith paid to get his talentless wife a job but damn..take some risks.

 

Oh and I have 10 bucks that says the "new" aliens are actually involved in a war with another alien race and are using planets like Earth as FOB's (hence the construction of the structures that look like aircraft carriers, the raiding of scrap metal and earth ammunition) and recruitment centers (children are probably more easily converted and indoctrinated due to biology).  OMG PARALLELS!

 

post #115 of 141

 

Just wanted to post this pic of Whistlin Will. "I did it for them! For all of usssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhh!"

 

 

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Sorry, the way he was holding on to that thing, and the angle, just made me laugh. The Browning .50 Cal at its most phallic.

 

Sucky finale. Not sure if I'll watch season two. Show is kind of a chore to be honest, didn't turn out fun like I was hoping. Writing is pretty bad, direction is nothing special, Wyle has always been a decent actor but he can only do so much. Cunningham is quite good but has shit to work with. Patton's just weird and sometimes unintentionally funny (at this point, I think he might have given more bad performances than good ones). Some of the other actors like Bloodgood, are not exactly terrible, just... lifeless. The child actors are all lousy, and make me wonder if Spielberg has even watched the show.

 

Unless they have a lot more stuff with those creepy Slender Man aliens in store, I'm probably out.

post #116 of 141

I really think Patton is fucking with everyone. He acts way too weird to just be sucking at the role. I mean, what the fuck was that face he was making during that stupid ending?

post #117 of 141

 

He's just unnecessarily weird on this show. He's supposed to be like this substitute father figure to Jimmy The Terrible Teen Actor, but the whole thing just comes off creepy.

 

Oh and they better not have killed off Porter. Awesome no-nonsense authenticity from Dale Dye in the role, one of the few genuinely cool things about the show.

post #118 of 141

I can't work up any excitement for this show, pro or con.  It's so consistently maudlin, and dumb.  Not as rock-stupid as the V remake, but still dumb.  I get the feeling we're not the target audience, and that this really is a 'family' show, in completely the wrong timeslot.

post #119 of 141
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I get the feeling we're not the target audience, and that this really is a 'family' show, in completely the wrong timeslot.

 

It really does feel like that. Speaking of, I did enjoy that ridiculous movie-watching scene where they're all laughing at some bad old cartoon way too hard.
 

 

post #120 of 141
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I can't work up any excitement for this show, pro or con.  It's so consistently maudlin, and dumb.  Not as rock-stupid as the V remake, but still dumb.  I get the feeling we're not the target audience, and that this really is a 'family' show, in completely the wrong timeslot.


You know what? I think you'e on to something. This might very well be a "sci-fi" version of Seventh Heaven.

 

 

post #121 of 141
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I get the feeling we're not the target audience, and that this really is a 'family' show, in completely the wrong timeslot.


I've heard this spoken out loud: "Normally I don't watch that alien stuff, but Falling Skies is really good."

 

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I did enjoy that ridiculous movie-watching scene where they're all laughing at some bad old cartoon way too hard.


Ha! Ya that made my day.

post #122 of 141

Maybe it's all the crappy sci-fi I've been watching as of late but I don't hate this show. It's not great and doesn't do anything that half a dozen shows have done better in the past, but I am curious to see where it goes. I think there's enough there to have some cool payoff in the later seasons. But, yeah, it's a poorly put together show.

post #123 of 141

 

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Ha! Ya that made my day.


 

As did your comment:

 


 

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I know this is a show about aliens, but I'd like to see some humans for once.

 

 

lol nice

post #124 of 141

I honestly liked the first couple of episodes.. and well I just kind of went along for the motorcycle ride. I thought the first hour was pretty good and the second hour was pretty lame. They had a chance to have a big fight and it was just a let down.  Yeah, when ever this shows comes back, it's got one episode to draw me back in.

post #125 of 141
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As did your comment:

 

lol nice


Aww I'm blushing.

post #126 of 141

This show is incredibly frustrating.  They've got some cool concepts going on, like the harnesses and the notion that the skitters are an enslaved race that used to be something completely different, and the tall skinny aliens.  But their Hallmark/Spielberg family shite just drove me up a wall.  I would be bailing on the second season but for the new showrunner.  Caprica and SGU were not gooey Family Channel fare and Caprica especially had some nice, complex character stuff.  So I'll probably check out the first couple episodes -- because I do watch "that alien stuff" -- and see if the Spielberg treacle fest continues. 

post #127 of 141
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This show is incredibly frustrating.  They've got some cool concepts going on, like the harnesses and the notion that the skitters are an enslaved race that used to be something completely different, and the tall skinny aliens.  But their Hallmark/Spielberg family shite just drove me up a wall.  I would be bailing on the second season but for the new showrunner.  Caprica and SGU were not gooey Family Channel fare and Caprica especially had some nice, complex character stuff.  So I'll probably check out the first couple episodes -- because I do watch "that alien stuff" -- and see if the Spielberg treacle fest continues. 



Spielberg was a lot funner when he had daddy issues.

 

This show's concept has a lot of potential but the execution thus far has been bogged down by just horrible writing.  I can't think of one character on the show (outside of maybe Pope) that I would miss if killed off.  I have zero investment in them because they've done a shit job of giving me a reason other than trite family stuff.

post #128 of 141

The finale was totally limp dick.

 

"WE'RE GONNA GO FIGHT THE ALIENS AND KICK SOME UNHOLY AMOUNT OF ASS oh we got our shit pummeled off screen, sorry Dr Carter".

post #129 of 141

Losing, at best, a quarter of their fighters plus their base of operations was so worth it now that the weird black kid learned a life lesson about addiction. No need for this to mess with their "boy scouts out on the park" mode of operation.  

post #130 of 141

I gave up on this show a long while back (and from reading these posts it seems like I made the right choice), but there seems like an unusual amount of Spielberg-bashing going on. I seriously doubt the man spent more than a couple of hours in his Executive Producer role on this.

post #131 of 141

agreed with most of the above that the most annoying thing about it is it has the potential to be really good, but it's buried under a whole heap of shite writing and soap opera like plotting.

post #132 of 141
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The finale was totally limp dick.

 

"WE'RE GONNA GO FIGHT THE ALIENS AND KICK SOME UNHOLY AMOUNT OF ASS oh we got our shit pummeled off screen, sorry Dr Carter".


Weird. I said almost the exact same thing on Twitter last night after watching. I genuinely enjoyed most of FALLING SKIES this summer, but it seemed like the finale took the least interesting route on every running storyline. The worst was Tom giving Rick an "everything's going to be okay" hug and Rick crying that he missed his father (despite never showing a bit of sadness about his death before) right after Rick totally sold everyone out to the aliens. There had to have been a more dramatically satisfying resolution to that thread that didn't involve Noah Wylie shooting kids (although ... you know ... that would have been okay too).

 

And, yes, Jimmy bugs the living shit out of me. And, yes, something really weird is going on with Will Patton in this show.

 

I still like a decent chunk of the cast here though: Wylie, Moon Bloodgood, whoever plays Pope, the hot tattooed blonde -- all agreeably watchable.

 

post #133 of 141
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I can't think of one character on the show (outside of maybe Pope) that I would miss if killed off.


 

Other than Porter, I can't think of any character I would miss including Pope. Cunningham is a good actor and does what he can with it, but he's saddled with something that has been done a few too many times in these sci-fi ensemble jobs. If you must do it, either make it really special somehow or have a shit ton of charisma to fall back on e.g. Josh Holloway.

 

post #134 of 141

Jimmy and that Christian bint are two of the most annoying characters in the history of television IMO.  Jimmy's just unbelievably fucking irritating, he just moons about and does sweet fuck all (oh except for call for his dog in the second episode and balls everything up.) but claims to be a soldier, and why does Weaver have so much time for him?  Balls. Christian girl - urgh.  While I have no love for any religious person if she'd been written a bit better, or directed a bit better then maybe she wouldn't make me want to put my fist through the screen every time she gets some beatific look on her face and starts spouting some crappy platitude or other.

 

Oh, and did they have to have Tom put his hands up and his sodding weapons down so often (at least once every episode I think) ?  I get it 'he's a thoughtful man of peace'. But thanks for treating me like a moron and banging on about it ad nauseam.

 

But it could be so good. Urgh.  Gives me a headache just thinking about it.

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Other than Porter, I can't think of any character I would miss including Pope. Cunningham is a good actor and does what he can with it, but he's saddled with something that has been done a few too many times in these sci-fi ensemble jobs. If you must do it, either make it really special somehow or have a shit ton of charisma to fall back on e.g. Josh Holloway.

 




Even the character of Pope is emasculated by the writing.  He's falling into the anti-hero trope without being able to fully establish his character's "anti" part. Every time I feel they're getting to the point of doing something interesting with him they throw the breaks on.  His last scene in the finale he might as well gave Wylie thumb's up and a "go get 'em tiger". 

 

 

post #136 of 141
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Christian girl - urgh.  While I have no love for any religious person if she'd been written a bit better, or directed a bit better then maybe she wouldn't make me want to put my fist through the screen every time she gets some beatific look on her face and starts spouting some crappy platitude or other.


In one of the last two episodes, the girl says that she was a first year med student. I thought she said earlier in the season that she was pre-med? Then I thought on it some more and realized that I didn't really give a shit because I find it fucking incredible that this show wants me to believe that this girl who looks younger than my 11 year old son has graduated college and was in her first year of med school. Thinking on the stupidity of this show's writing at times actually makes my head hurt.
post #137 of 141
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Every time I feel they're getting to the point of doing something interesting with him they throw the breaks on.  His last scene in the finale he might as well gave Wylie thumb's up and a "go get 'em tiger". 



Yeah, that positive exchange with Wyle was pretty dumb given that it came soon after Tough Blonde Chick mentioned how the people would be horrified if they knew what Pope would do to them. Too bad for Cunningham that everything is so pussified on this show. I sense he's got the potential to be a real mean SOB if it was one of those cable shows for grown ups.

post #138 of 141
Nothing more to be said about this mediocre, bland show. Hard to believe it was created by one of the main BSG writers.

I am slightly intrigued by this line from the Deadline article though: "None of the writers from season one will be back".
post #139 of 141

Terry O'Quinn! shit, might have to watch season 2 after all.

post #140 of 141
Well, that's nice. But who is writing this crap now?
post #141 of 141

Did I call it that Dr. Carter would come back with no memory of what happened when he was with the aliens?  Because that looks like what's going to happen.  Carter mysteriously comes back, no memory of what happened, a rehash of season one ensues.

 

Do I hate myself enough to watch?  Probably.

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