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THE HOBBIT GETS A LILLY AND A HUMPHRIES

post #1 of 43
6/20/11 at 1:10am
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by Elisabeth Rappe: link

An elf and a Goblin join the ever expanding cast of The Hobbit
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post #2 of 43
6/20/11 at 1:15am

Humphries as the Goblin King is like divine inspiration.

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post #3 of 43
6/20/11 at 1:30am

Still going on a positive streak.

 

I usually don't care about reading scripts at all. But if the shooting script for this ever came into my hnads I'd be tempted like I've never been tempted before. I'm dying to see how PJ is going to handle the additions.

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post #4 of 43
6/20/11 at 6:15am

For all the misgivings I've had about the LOTR connections, Cumberbatch and Humphries are damn awesome casting choices, and it'll be awesome just to go back to the cinematic Middle Earth.

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post #5 of 43
6/20/11 at 6:33am

There must be a hundred better actresses than Lilly who could've been cast.

 

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post #6 of 43
6/20/11 at 6:36am

There were a hundred better actresses than Liv Tyler, but she still did okay with the pointy ears and breathy Elvish.

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post #7 of 43
6/20/11 at 8:21am

Even as someone who has seen Dead Alive and Meet The Feebles a combined 200 times, I have almost less than zero interest in this. Of course, I am being pigheaded, and I am in the minority, but please, I am just so done with all this Middle Earth stuff.

 

Does anyone know if there will be any black or Hispanic people in this one? Because all these names being cast are totally alien to me, and I wonder if they come from some sort of "White Culture" that I am not privvy to, like when some white people saw Battle: Los Angeles and were like "What's a Ne-Yo?"

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post #8 of 43
6/20/11 at 8:40am

We are one step closer to a sequal to Les Patterson saves the world :)

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post #9 of 43
6/20/11 at 9:12am
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Originally Posted by Andrew Merriweather View Post

There were a hundred better actresses than Liv Tyler, but she still did okay with the pointy ears and breathy Elvish.



Her storyline was horrible.

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post #10 of 43
6/20/11 at 9:40am
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Originally Posted by Gabe T View Post

Does anyone know if there will be any black or Hispanic people in this one? Because all these names being cast are totally alien to me, and I wonder if they come from some sort of "White Culture" that I am not privvy to, like when some white people saw Battle: Los Angeles and were like "What's a Ne-Yo?"


Not this stuff again. Wasn't this particular dead horse beaten into paste with the previous trilogy?

 

 

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post #11 of 43
6/20/11 at 12:26pm

Barry Humphries is one of the most magnificennt performers ever to stride the Earth. This news got me rubbing my hands together and grinning like a loon.


 

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Does anyone know if there will be any black or Hispanic people in this one?


You mean orcs?

 

I'm sure there'll be plenty.

 

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post #12 of 43
6/20/11 at 12:34pm

Bucho, that's just cruel, man. Something that annoys me about these complaints: do there HAVE to be black, Hispanic, etc. characters in everything? Just because there's an absence of minorities doesn't automatically make a work of art racist, people.

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post #13 of 43
6/20/11 at 12:45pm

Well, it's that combined with the overall whiteness of this production. This thing is only in my periphery, but I see so much breathless excitement for a chick named LILLY and someone named CUMBERBATCH or something, and talking of the Tri-King Of Lidsville or whatever, and I wonder if the nebulous concept of "white culture" has become a real thing and I am totally not aware of it, because I have never heard of some of this shit beyond my basic understanding of the source material.

 

But yeah, some fantasy shit that wasn't totally reliant on white faces and kingdoms and aristocratic destinies would be nice. As I've always said, black kids want to go to Narnia too

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post #14 of 43
6/20/11 at 1:43pm

When someone makes a Shaka film and decides to throw some white guy protagonist for "audience identification" let me know and I'll be right with you. When someone decides to make a Spider-Man movie with a black or hispanic protagonist let me know so I can jump to his defense. Don't keep grasping at straws. "Oh god, a made up Anglosaxon mythological story doesn't have brown people in it!" "Oh god, Journey To The West doesn't have brown people in it!"

 

Also no brown people in Beowulf, in the Kalevala and in the Iliad. Shocking.

 

 

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post #15 of 43
6/20/11 at 2:08pm

So just keep adapting the same, white-heavy stories? Okay, then.

 

Again, it's not that I'm complaining OH NOES TOO MANY WHITEYS. But I consider myself pretty clue'd in to this stuff, and it feels like every news item about The Hobbit is written in Elvish. Is this a function of my actual non-whiteness and/or the universe's response to my repeated championing of an Asian Percy Jackson or an Inuit version of "The Seeker: The Dark Is Rising"? Or has "White Culture" gone from some idiot pundit's empty-headed musings to an actual real-life concept?

 

What the fuck is a Cumberbatch? Is that a guy? Or a brand name or something? Sounds like a cookie.

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post #16 of 43
6/20/11 at 2:12pm

Jackson's populating the film with a bunch of really great really not-american actors, just like he did with the original.

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post #17 of 43
6/20/11 at 2:16pm

So it IS a cookie?

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post #18 of 43
6/20/11 at 2:16pm
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So just keep adapting the same, white-heavy stories? Okay, then.

 

Again, it's not that I'm complaining OH NOES TOO MANY WHITEYS. But I consider myself pretty clue'd in to this stuff, and it feels like every news item about The Hobbit is written in Elvish. Is this a function of my actual non-whiteness and/or the universe's response to my repeated championing of an Asian Percy Jackson or an Inuit version of "The Seeker: The Dark Is Rising"? Or has "White Culture" gone from some idiot pundit's empty-headed musings to an actual real-life concept?

 

What the fuck is a Cumberbatch? Is that a guy? Or a brand name or something? Sounds like a cookie.


You're not making any fucking sense, mate.

 

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post #19 of 43
6/20/11 at 2:19pm

I am essentially someone who probably read The Hobbit billions of years ago (maybe not, don't remember) who sat listlessly through the LOTR movies and is using my love of pre-LOTR Peter Jackson to trod into this thread and say I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS THIS I DON'T GET THIS WHAT IS HUH? So I apologize if it comes across as trolling, I just have a couple of hours to burn.

 

I assume White Culture isn't a "thing" though, and if it is, it isn't in play here. Right?

 

I still have not been told what a Cumberbatch is. Is it a plush doll of some type?

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post #20 of 43
6/20/11 at 2:20pm
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Originally Posted by Gabe T View Post

I am essentially someone who probably read The Hobbit billions of years ago (maybe not, don't remember) who sat listlessly through the LOTR movies and is using my love of pre-LOTR Peter Jackson to trod into this thread and say I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS THIS I DON'T GET THIS WHAT IS HUH? So I apologize if it comes across as trolling, I just have a couple of hours to burn.

 

I assume White Culture isn't a "thing" though, and if it is, it isn't in play here. Right?

 

I still have not been told what a Cumberbatch is. Is it a plush doll of some type?


White Culture, whatever the hell it is, is probably not in play here, no. And Benedict Cumberbatch is merely a British actor with a strange surname.

 

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post #21 of 43
6/20/11 at 2:21pm

I liked him better as a cookie.

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post #22 of 43
6/20/11 at 2:30pm


"White culture"? "just keep adapting the same, white-heavy stories"?

 

Wow.

 

 

 

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post #23 of 43
6/20/11 at 2:32pm

Oh, why don't you just cry into your pack of vanilla-sprinkled Cumberbatch Lites about it?

 

Mmm, Cumberbatch Lites.

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post #24 of 43
6/20/11 at 2:48pm

I kind of really dislike Evangeline Lilly because of her character on Lost, which was just a terribly written, but she always seemed kind of dumb in interviews too. But it really isn't a big deal, because I doubt her part is very big.

 

And for the Goblin king stuff? I hope this scene makes it into Jackson's film VERBATIM, song and all.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPkqjc23yqs

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post #25 of 43
6/20/11 at 7:45pm

Cumberbatch was awesome in the stage production of Frankenstein recently.

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post #26 of 43
6/20/11 at 7:53pm

Dame Edna as a goblin King. David Bowie would approve. Will his mouth be big enough to attempt swallowing Thorin O's head?

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post #27 of 43
6/20/11 at 11:14pm

Enter The Cumberbatch.

 

Sherlock explains to Watson his method: http://youtu.be/im4TYITM0VE

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post #28 of 43
6/21/11 at 1:36am

Fabfunk, you just make yourself look like an asshole by not knowing (or pretending not to know) about a truly great up-and-coming actor.

 

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post #29 of 43
6/21/11 at 3:08am

 

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Originally Posted by Gabe T View PostOr has "White Culture" gone from some idiot pundit's empty-headed musings to an actual real-life concept?


I'm afraid that, today, that pundit is you.

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post #30 of 43
6/21/11 at 4:21am

Game, set, match.

 

Look, no-one here would bat an eyelid if Jackson cast some minorities in the movie. But equal to that, no-one's going to start getting shitty about them not being put in simply to placate people like you. It's a non-issue.

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post #31 of 43
6/21/11 at 5:00am

wait there are supposed geeks who don't know who Cumberbatch is? 

 

This saddens more than all the talk about casting token minorities.

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post #32 of 43
6/21/11 at 5:03am

I still haven't forgiven Ang Lee for not casting any black actors in Crouching Tiger. And what was with Miyazaki not drawing any hispanic characters in Princess Mononoke? Does he not know that every culture, real or imagined, must represent the same ratio of racial minorities as 2011 america?

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post #33 of 43
6/21/11 at 5:47am
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wait there are supposed geeks who don't know who Cumberbatch is?



Fabfunk doesn't know who Benedict Cumberbatch is because Cumberbatch is a stuff boring white guy with a funny name whereas FF is an ultra-cool sexual dynamo with his finger on the pulse of every minority culture in the world.

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post #34 of 43
6/21/11 at 8:18am

Wait....that's the legendary Fabfunk?

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post #35 of 43
6/21/11 at 8:21am

I believe so.

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post #36 of 43
6/21/11 at 8:29am

well if it is the sex forum will be getting busier again.

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post #37 of 43
6/21/11 at 9:06am

Cumberbatching does sound like something that belongs in the sex forum

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post #38 of 43
6/21/11 at 9:11am

Gentlemen. What does this turn of the dicussion have to do with the topic at hand?

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post #39 of 43
6/21/11 at 9:15am

Evangeline Lilly?

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post #40 of 43
6/21/11 at 11:28am
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Originally Posted by DARKMITE8 View Post

Dame Edna as a goblin King. David Bowie would approve.



Best post.

 

Humphries' casting is inspired and genius. Don't know if I care much one way or the other about Lilly being on board, but I can see her playing an elf without much trouble and I'm sure Jackson will get the demure breathiness out of her that he needs. Humphries alone makes the announcement aces.

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post #41 of 43
6/21/11 at 12:21pm
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This saddens more than all the talk about casting token minorities.



I think you mean tolkien minorities. 

 

I'm really surprised Jackson has gone with Lilly as I don't find her acting all that great.  Maybe it's a role that isn't too dialogue-heavy?  

 

And consider me shell shocked by the possibility that Gabe is Fabfunk.  

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post #42 of 43
6/21/11 at 1:03pm

I've been open about it. Let's move on. Preferrably with a bag of Cumberbatch Lites.

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post #43 of 43
6/23/11 at 9:27am

"Cumberbatch - it sounds like a fart in a bath, doesn't it?" - Benedict Cumberbatch

 

Face it, you're all amateurs in Cumberbatch-mocking compared to Cumberbatch.  Take your cigarette & cookie jokes and go home.

 

I got to see the man play both Frankenstein and The Creature in the production mentioned by Subotai.  The guy's got talent to spare.  And what a voice!

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