ALEX TSE GIVES THE CROW WINGS

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Originally Posted by CHUD Main Site Feed 

by Elisabeth Rappe: link

Alex Tse is going to help Bradley Cooper go black, white, and undead all over.

I love that you're embracing the whole doe-eyed Cooper fangirl persona with this project. As Tyrion Lannister says, never forget who you are for surely the world will not. Wear it like armor and it can never be used to hurt you.

Honestly, top to bottom I don't know what to make of this film even existing. I am at least curious tho.

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Originally Posted by The Rain Dog 

I love that you're embracing the whole doe-eyed Cooper fangirl persona with this project. As Tyrion Lannister says, never forget who you are for surely the world will not. Wear it like armor and it can never be used to hurt you.

 

Honestly, top to bottom I don't know what to make of this film even existing. I am at least curious tho.

Thank you. :)  Someone needs to give Cooper some love. And I need a glittering up-and-comer since Gerard Butler let me down.

Even as a Cooper booster, you gotta admit that this part seems as wrong for him as a part can be.

You just wait. I've expressed my interest in this from the first rumors onwards and I will be proven correct.

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Originally Posted by Andrew Merriweather 

Even as a Cooper booster, you gotta admit that this part seems as wrong for him as a part can be.

I said that even in this piece.  But I'll remain optimistic.   If they take the "ordinary guy broken by pain and reincarnation" then I don't see why any actor, including Cooper, can't do it.    If this ends up a straight up remake of the Brandon Lee "rock star gone revenge" then yeah, it's going to be all wrong for him.

If Cooper had been cast as Top Dollar I'd be all for this. But even as "normal man wronged and resurrected" he just doesn't seem right.

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Originally Posted by Elisabeth Rappe 

I said that even in this piece.  But I'll remain optimistic.   If they take the "ordinary guy broken by pain and reincarnation" then I don't see why any actor, including Cooper, can't do it.    If this ends up a straight up remake of the Brandon Lee "rock star gone revenge" then yeah, it's going to be all wrong for him.

Draven is based on Iggy Pop and Ziggy Stardust so he'll be a rockstar unless they are drastically changing the character.

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Originally Posted by Elisabeth Rappe 

I said that even in this piece.  But I'll remain optimistic.   If they take the "ordinary guy broken by pain and reincarnation" then I don't see why any actor, including Cooper, can't do it.    If this ends up a straight up remake of the Brandon Lee "rock star gone revenge" then yeah, it's going to be all wrong for him.

If it's the first option, that's just boring as fuck. If they go the second, Cooper's the epitome of a retarded choice. But, there's also hundreds of different ways they can do this mythology justice without rehashing what's been done, and none of them have been exploited yet. We'll see.

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Originally Posted by Alex Augustine 

Draven is based on Iggy Pop and Ziggy Stardust so he'll be a rockstar unless they are drastically changing the character.

 

Now I'm wondering where all the "he wasn't a musician in the book, it was invented for the film" comments/emails I got came from on the last round of casting rumors. 

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Originally Posted by Elisabeth Rappe 

Now I'm wondering where all the "he wasn't a musician in the book, it was invented for the film" comments/emails I got came from on the last round of casting rumors. 

 

Still, I think its hard to divorce the "rock star" aesthetic from the Crow. For good or bad its a rock-n-roll comic. Whether he actually plays guitar shouldn't matter. I mean look at this guy!!!

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Originally Posted by Elisabeth Rappe 

Now I'm wondering where all the "he wasn't a musician in the book, it was invented for the film" comments/emails I got came from on the last round of casting rumors. 

 

He wasn't. IIRC, he did some sort of home remodeling/construction work in the book. But the look of the character once he's back from the dead is unmistakably 80s industrial/goth/punk, and the art style was such that it changed depending on who James O'Barr felt like drawing that day.

It was never indicated that he was a musician in the comic; he didn't even have a last name. The home he was building was for he and Shelly, but it was never determined that that was actually his profession. They are never defined beyond their first names and their relationship, which I assume is intentional. Resurrected Eric in the comic is also several shades crazier than his film incarnation.

As for Alex Tse, the man has a short CV, and I've not cared for anything on it. He was brought onto Watchmen to specifically dial-up the action quotient, and if I'm correct, a lot of the work he did do was scrapped when Snyder decided to do a low-quality xerox of the comic book instead.

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Originally Posted by JacknifeJohnny 

It was never indicated that he was a musician in the comic; he didn't even have a last name. The home he was building was for he and Shelly, but it was never determined that that was actually his profession. They are never defined beyond their first names and their relationship, which I assume is intentional. Resurrected Eric in the comic is also several shades crazier than his film incarnation.

 

As for Alex Tse, the man has a short CV, and I've not cared for anything on it. He was brought onto Watchmen to specifically dial-up the action quotient, and if I'm correct, a lot of the work he did do was scrapped when Snyder decided to do a low-quality xerox of the comic book instead.

 

 

 

 

Regarding his craziness; comic book Eric might just be dealing with a gunshot wound to the head (not actually resurrected) and conjuring up a talking crow in his mind.

I can always count on the CHUD forums to know all the fine points. I don't mean that sarcastically.   The movie and the book seem so entwined with fans that Google can't even turn up a straight answer.

Thank you! I don't feel so stupid, I was kind of right...!

The Crow comic is awful, teenage-angsty and largely plotless. A straight adaptation would be very much in the same vein as Twilight.

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Originally Posted by Sebastian OB 

The Crow comic is awful, teenage-angsty and largely plotless.

And to think the movies are actually worse. Nowhere to go but up.

I think the story being largely plotless, i.e., simple and straightforward*, is not only perfectly fine, but also the very point. I haven't watched the film in years, but I own the comic, and I don't look back on my love for either with any embarrassment. Whatever flaws O'Barr has as a writer and an artist, he most certainly chose his iconography well, and that's the element of the story I've always responded to (as well as many, many other people, obviously).

*Ironically, the thing that kind of bugs me about the film is that they actually tried to flesh out the plot w/ the whole Devil's Night thing and making Top Dollar a ghetto fabulous Lex Luthor (though Wincott is a lot of fun), and to this day I think it would have been more unique to shoot it as a dream-like, tottering on surreal, stream of consciousness picture (if not as fiscally responsible).

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Originally Posted by Alex Augustine 

Regarding his craziness; comic book Eric might just be dealing with a gunshot wound to the head (not actually resurrected) and conjuring up a talking crow in his mind.

 

Sure, if you discount the 2,784 gunshots to the head he takes after the first one. Also, it's been a while, but doesn't T-Bird crash his car at the end because the crow actually blocks his windshield?

Comic Eric's still a psychopath, though.

I don't exactly buy Augustine's interpretation, but he only took one shot to the head in the comic, and was still alive when the crow appeared. The crow tells him "not to look/watch", but he still witnesses Shelly being raped and murdered and dies in the hospital a few hours later. In the comic, T-Bird crashes his car, and it may have been because the crow showed up in front of him, but I can't recall exactly. Last panel is T-Bird all messed up and incapacitated outside of his car in the background, and a close-up of Eric's hand holding a ballpeen hammer in the foreground.

I might've read that wrong, but it sounded like he was saying everything that happens after Eric got shot was in his mind which just doesn't hold.

Yeah, that's what he's saying. I'm not being dismissive, but It doesn't hold for me either.

I'm getting to that age now when I think that these remakes are going to start pissing me off. I'm already boycotting next years Spider-Man reboot and now this as well.

The original was my first R/18 rated movie I saw at the cinema and I was underage. The film blew me away and as a result I feel quite protective over the original.

LEAVE IT ALONE

They have left it alone, you can get it online or at your local video store and watch it any time you want, just the way it was. Also, I will heretofore refer to remakes as "rebrands", because rebranding is exactly what it is and really the only thing it's about.