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Matt Taibbi of "Rolling Stone" obliterates Michelle Bachmann

post #1 of 32
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Just a goddamn gold brick of greatness here: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/michele-bachmanns-holy-war-20110622

 

While I think it would be fun to see her look like a fool in debates, I do not want her getting the nomination.  That gets her on the ballot, and anything can happen after that.

post #2 of 32

"She's trying to look like June Cleaver, but she actually looks like the T2 skeleton posing for a passport photo."

 

I want to buy this man a beer.

post #3 of 32

I'll actually but Rolling Stone for that.

 

Should be interesting to see who Palin picks as her candidate as she will not run and will that have any influence in Iowa.  If not this nutjob will win that state and possibly South Carolina.  But I don't see Palin wanting to share the limelight with another woman so she will actively try and take her down.

 

This race will make people root for Palin.

post #4 of 32

Great article and the guy is especially an expert on Wall Street too go to the 21st minute here to listen to him teach Jesse Ventura.

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VW95P6_vG8

post #5 of 32

That whole Jesse Venutra: Conspiracy Theories thing is hilarious!  I never knew such a show existed.  Jeeeeez...

post #6 of 32

The comments section on that article makes my blood freeze. Half your country is irrevocably broken.

post #7 of 32

Read this the other day. God damn is it refreshing seeing someone in the US MSM calling 'crazy' and 'bullshit' when they see it. Taibbi's a helluva writer tho.

post #8 of 32

I usually like Taibbi's writing and appreciate the effort he puts into his research (even if I don't always agree with his argument), but IMO he's doing himself a disservice with the "rofl she looks like the Terminator" crap - a schtick that isn't confined to this particular article.  I don't think I've ever read a 2+ page piece of his where he refrains from commenting on how weird or evil someone looks.  There's more than enough to criticize Bachmann on without resorting to that.

 

Speaking of looks, I had lunch the other week with an uber-rich old dude and his botoxed up wife who, I can only imagine, looks exactly like Bachmann will 35 years from now.  We're raising money for an acquisition firm that is developing, among other things, one of the largest wind farms out in California.  Not realizing the lady was apparently a full on tea party loon, she spent the next 10 minutes educating me on how horrible green energy is and how wind farms are responsible for the Bald Eagle being on the endangered species list...because they fly into the propellers.

 

The food sucked, too.  And it was her restaurant.

post #9 of 32

I will admit that the article had some low grade insults in, but there comes a time when the person you're talking to is so fundamentaly wrong that, if you want to be honest, your only words to them can be: "You're a fucking troll. You're complete shit inside and out. Go fucking jump off a bridge and stop wasting my oxygen. Debate's over."

 

Bachmann has long ago passed that threshold.  

post #10 of 32
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Originally Posted by stelios View Post

I will admit that the article had some low grade insults in, but there comes a time when the person you're talking to is so fundamentaly wrong that, if you want to be honest, your only words to them can be: "You're a fucking troll. You're complete shit inside and out. Go fucking jump off a bridge and stop wasting my oxygen. Debate's over."

 

Bachmann has long ago passed that threshold.  



A-fucking-men.  You can NEVER have a rational argument with folks like that so I don't see the point in wasting your time coming up with well thought-out rebuttals with facts and reason. 

post #11 of 32

It's a bit early but it looks like we've got our Norsefire candidate for 2012.

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When you laugh at Michele Bachmann for going on MSNBC and blurting out that the moon is made of red communist cheese, these people don't learn that she is wrong. What they learn is that you're a dick, that they hate you more than ever, and that they're even more determined now to support anyone who promises not to laugh at their own visions and fantasies.

 

Terrifying in it's stark truthfulness.

post #13 of 32

Awesome article. Thanks for posting it. Bachmann is a total joke.

post #14 of 32

And yet the joke is on Taibbi and this thread.

 

The day after the article was made available, Glenn Beck spent the better part of his morning show thrashing Rolling Stone and praising Bachmann to the skies.  So she actually comes out of this stronger, whereas Taibbi comes off as a bitchy writer for a mediocre music magazine.

 

That's the problem with retards.  If you expose them for being retarded, they will only spite you.  It's a no-win situation.

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That's the problem with retards.  If you expose them for being retarded, they will only spite you.  It's a no-win situation.



This statement is so true.

post #16 of 32
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An all-time fuck-up from Bachmann when she announced her candidacy.

 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2011/jun/27/the-wrong-john-wayne/

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An all-time fuck-up from Bachmann when she announced her candidacy.

 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2011/jun/27/the-wrong-john-wayne/



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

Bachmann's entire career is like a political gag 30 Rock threw out for being too broad.

post #18 of 32

Michelle Bachmann hiding in the bushes watching a gay rights rally

 

Bachmann-in-the-Bushes.jpg

 

http://www.minnpost.com/bloisolson/2008/10/21/3976/michele_bachmanns_memorable_moments

 

 

 

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The bushes
Early in her state Senate career Bachmann was caught spying on a pro-gay-rights rally by hiding behind bushes. This incident occurred after she was profiled in the Star Tribune and photographed vacuuming in heels (see LaFave's letter to the newspaper above). If there is one thing that's out of touch with voters in the 6th District, it's hiding in the bushes (unless to hunt) and vacuuming in heels.

 

 

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Great article and the guy is especially an expert on Wall Street too go to the 21st minute here to listen to him teach Jesse Ventura.

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VW95P6_vG8


 

So why is it that Jesse Ventura can get this story so spot on while that hack Andrew Ross Sorkin gets his backwards Wall St. propaganda turned into an HBO movie?  WTF?

post #20 of 32

C'mon YT you are one of the most intelligent voices here. Maybe you are baiting me but whatever.

 

Its about spreading the lie. The Sorkin film makes a hero out of people who are all time villains.

 

Again this is 2011 where truth is a lie and the lie is the truth its downright scary.

 

For people to swallow the widespread looting is too frightening for them.

 

They want fantasy and they have it... for a small while longer that is.

 

The next couple of years will be unlike anything ever seen or since.

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C'mon YT you are one of the most intelligent voices here. Maybe you are baiting me but whatever.

 

Its about spreading the lie. The Sorkin film makes a hero out of people who are all time villains.

 

Again this is 2011 where truth is a lie and the lie is the truth its downright scary.

 

For people to swallow the widespread looting is too frightening for them.

 

They want fantasy and they have it... for a small while longer that is.

 

The next couple of years will be unlike anything ever seen or since.




Of course!  How could I be so stupid!?  *facepalm* 

post #22 of 32
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Michelle Bachmann hiding in the bushes watching a gay rights rally

 

http://www.minnpost.com/bloisolson/2008/10/21/3976/michele_bachmanns_memorable_moments

 

 


This was from one of the comments below the article...

 

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What happened? How did Michele Bachmann fall through the cracks? Where were all the educated and well informed voters two years ago?

It has been 58 years since we Wisconsin folks have had the dubious honor of being attached to one Senator Joseph McCarthy. In 58 years we have not been able to fully live down the fact that Sen. McCarthy was one of us. It will be at least 58 years before you Minnesotans live down the fact that Representative Michele Bachmann is one of you.

 

It touches exactly on what I said in the 2012 Election thread.  It's easily to laugh some of the Republican lunatics off, but the truth is that they continue to float back up to the surface.  They're like cockroaches for which the forces of reason and progress do not possess a big enough shoe for.

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Edited by soylentgreen - 6/28/11 at 12:37pm
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Originally Posted by soylentgreen View Post

This was from one of the comments below the article...

 

 

It touches exactly on what I said in the 2012 Election thread.  It's easily to laugh some of the Republican lunatics off, but the truth is that they continue to float back up to the surface.  They're like cockroaches for which the forces of reason and progress do not possess a big enough shoe for.



"float back up" evokes an image of a turd rather than a cockroach, which is probably more appropriate, but I get your point :-)

 

Do you guys think Bachmann emerged as a "national political figure" (I'm embarassed to use that term, but what the check) because of Palin or not? I have this image that McCain accidentally opened some type of Pandora's box, but maybe this was bound to happen anyways.

post #25 of 32

I do and I think the Pandora's box metaphor is on the money.  It's a peculiar base that Palin energized, perhaps (perhaps!) a bit too late for 2008 (poor McCain).  By 2:15 am on November 5th that year, these cool and unsympathetic folks were feverishly rallying and organizing...and slowly and surely drawing their plans against us.

 

It's like Fruit Stripe gum, remember that.  It tastes so juicy and flavorful when you first start chewing it, then turns into a rubbery glob and goes tasteless within a minute or two.  So you spit it out and get more, only this time you shove two pieces in your mouth.

 

They've got the taste in their mouths and the novelty of an "outsider" still gets them hard.  With no prejudice or misogyny intended, that's why I firmly believe a female or black candidate is not choking the Republican windpipe just yet.  (though where a Mormon fits in remains to be seen)

 

With the unbridled partisanship on both the left and the right, and a news media that can't report a story without an alarmist or sensationalist bent, it's hard to get a good grasp on just how large this base is. 

 

By the morning following the gay marriage vote in New York, the papers were full of resolute right wing orgs vowing to "punish" the politicians that voted yes.  If they do follow through with this and show some decent strength, I'm still not sure how much of a barometer that would be for extreme social righties across the country.

 

Right now, Bachmann is preaching to acknowledged choirs.  How far this will carry her is hard to guess, but did anyone believe that someone like her, with her batshit theories, blatant lies and narrow-mindedly provincial grasp of government, would get even this far?

post #26 of 32

I would just like to speak on behalf of the Sane Minnesotans Coalition and apologize for Michelle Bachmann. Really, we try to keep her bloc occupied with crayons on election day, but once they've eaten them all, there's just no containing them.

 

But, hey, you guys like Prince, right? And remember the Replacements? Garrison Keillor's not so bad when you're in the mood for him. Let's not forget Peter Krause.

 

Guys? Guys?

post #27 of 32

I remember Jesse Ventura. WTH is going on in Minnesota? Is it the inhumanly cold weather?

post #28 of 32

I loves me some Michelle Bachman; I might buy cookies from her at a bake-sale. As for her being El Presidente: George W. Bush was elected twice, people, so don't laugh off the possibility that Americans almost certainly will cut-off their collective noses to spite their red, white and blue faces.

 

Maybe we'll luck out and the Rapture will happen before it comes to that.

post #29 of 32

Michele Bachmann Says John Quincy Adams Was 'One Of Our Founding Fathers,' Flubs Slavery Remarks

 

 

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During an appearance on ABC's "Good Morning America" on Tuesday, Republican presidential candidate Michele Bachmann was given an opportunity to set the record straight with regard to comments she made earlier this year lauding the nation's Founding Fathers for working "tirelessly until slavery was no more in the United States.”

 

ABC's George Stephanopoulos asked the conservative congresswoman to address the statement, noting that many of the country's Founding Fathers, including Thomas Jefferson and George Washington, in fact had slaves and that slavery wasn't abolished until the Civil War. Here's an excerpt of the exchange that went down:

 

 

Bachmann: Well you know what’s marvelous is that in this country and under our constitution, we have the ability when we recognize that something is wrong to change it. And that’s what we did in our country. We changed it. We no longer have slavery. That’s a good thing. And what our Constitution has done for our nation is to give us the basis of freedom unparalleled in the rest of the world.

Stephanopoulos: I agree with that…

Bachmann: That’s what people want...they realize our government is taking away our freedom.

Stephanopoulos: But that’s not what you said. You said that the Founding Fathers worked tirelessly to end slavery.

Bachmann: Well if you look at one of our Founding Fathers, John Quincy Adams, that’s absolutely true. He was a very young boy when he was with his father serving essentially as his father’s secretary. He tirelessly worked throughout his life to make sure that we did in fact one day eradicate slavery...

Stephanopoulos: He wasn’t one of the Founding Fathers – he was a president, he was a Secretary of State, he was a member of Congress, you’re right he did work to end slavery decades later. But so you are standing by this comment that the Founding Fathers worked tirelessly to end slavery?

 

 

Asked if she stood by her assertion that the Founding Fathers worked hard to end slavery given the facts, Bachmann said, "Well, John Quincy Adams most certainly was a part of the Revolutionary War era. He was a young boy but he was actively involved."

 

Earlier this year, Bachmann told a group of local New Hampshire Republicans, "You're the state where the shot was heard around the world in Lexington and Concord." However, the first shots of the Revolutionary War were fired in Massachusetts, not the Granite State.

 

She told CNN on Tuesday morning, "I'm introducing myself now to the American people so that they can know that I have a strong academic scholarly background, more important I have a real life background."

 

In an appearance on Fox News' "Hannity" on Monday night, Bachmann suggested that President Barack Obama "is threatened by [her] candidacy." She said, "He fears me. He sees me as a serious, substantive competitor. I think he sees that I have a very clear path to victory for the nomination. And, I think he wants to do whatever he can to diminish me because he thinks he'll have to see me in the debates. That's my intent, to take him on in the debates and to win and take the voice of the people that I serve to the White House."

 

Also on the program, Bachmann accepted an apology issued by "Fox News Sunday" host Chris Wallace after he asked her if she's a "flake" on last weekend's edition of his show. Earlier in the day, the Tea Party favorite told ABC News' Jonathan Karl, "I think that it's insulting to insinuate that a candidate for president is less than serious. I'm a very serious individual."

 

 

Ya know...as much of a shadow and a threat as I feel Bachmann may be, I'm starting to get a rather disturbing CARRIE vibe from this situation.  It may boil down to the question of whether she herself is the one pulling the cord.

post #30 of 32

Fuck Michelle Bachmann right in her hypocritical ass.

 

I sincerely hope she dies in a car fire.

post #31 of 32
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Of course!  How could I be so stupid!?  *facepalm* 


Now now I didn't mean it like that.

 

We can both certainly agree HBO should have made something much better than the end result. Shit Inside Job at least touched on how nobody has been prosecuted.

post #32 of 32

It's worse to have kernels of truth dressed up in a lie than to just blatantly lie about the whole thing, so I don't let HBO off the hook for this, and I think time will ultimately be unkind to that feckless docudrama.

 

Anyway, I was finally able to read Taibbi's RS piece, which was insightful and brilliant (and scary) as always.  Today, he has this tidbit up about Michele Bachmann's husband, who has received $100k in evil government Medicaid money for a clinic that "cures the gay."

 

“We have to understand that barbarians need to be educated, need to be disciplined,” Bachmann said. “And just because someone thinks [they're gay] or feels it doesn’t mean we need to go down that road. That’s what is called the sinful nature.”

 

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/bachmann-campaign-starts-with-a-bang-20110629

 

ETA:  I just realized this basically repeats what's on TCD's link above.

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