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post #51 of 72
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I must admit part of me craves one last Evil Dead starring Bruce Campbell as Ash though.  Basically I want an Unforgiven/John Rambo send off for Rami and Campbell with the character and franchise they created.


 

You could end up with the horror equivalent of Indiana Jones and the kingdom the crystal skull though....
 

 

post #52 of 72
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You could end up with the horror equivalent of Indiana Jones and the kingdom the crystal skull though....
 

 

 

I got more faith in Raimi and Campbell than I do Spielberg and Lucas.  I think Raimi can still play in a small sandbox and do interesting things while those two probably wouldn't get out of bed for a production under 90 million these days.

 


 

 

post #53 of 72

There's a good reason to be pissed. Evil Dead IS Raimi having Bruce Campbell DO a Sam/Ted Raimi script. 

You cut the Raimis, you get shit. You get MY NAME IS BRUCE.
You go and cut Bruce, too, well. Guess.

 

From the producers of Boogeyman and Rise: Bloodhunter, two of the worst theatrically released horror flicks of the last decade.

 

And it's Sam Raimi openly not giving a fuck. Otherwise he'd either do ED4 himself or not let this happen.

post #54 of 72
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There is no "letting this happen".  The have ACTIVELY pursued getting a remake made for the past five or so years.  They own the rights.  Nobody is making Sam do this.  And yes, if Sam actually wanted to make Evil Dead IV, he could easily do it.  He's pretty much had the power to get that film made in any fashion he wants for almost a decade now.  Problem is, despite what he has been saying for years, Sam obviously doesn't have that strong of a desire to make a fourth entry.  Or at least he doesn't want to do it as much as he wants to see the original film remade to bring the series back to a strong horror standpoint.

 

Unless for some reason Ash appears in this, effectively making it ED4 and a remake all in one, we will never get Evil Dead IV.  We never were going to get Evil Dead IV.  While I always held out hope, I never really believed Raimi when he said he was definitely going to make it.  I believe Don Coscarelli when he says he wants to do Phantasm V.  I don't believe Sam when he speaks the same of ED4.

post #55 of 72

Evil Dead 4's time has long since passed that puppy may have been a possibility before Spiderman but not after. Raimi was knee deep in that trilogy.

 

Its hilarious that anyone would think it was possible in 2011.

 

30 million seems massive for this kind of movie. Doesn't make this smell any better.

post #56 of 72

Where is everyone getting 30 million? I'm not seeing it anywhere in the press release. I feel like the internet just threw that number out and now it's being taken as fact. Raimi has been touting this as "low budget". 30 million is mid-budget and pretty high for horror.

post #57 of 72

I confess, I only said $30 million because someone else did. I don't know if that's accurate, I hope it's not.

post #58 of 72

$30 million or $1 million, it's all still too high....

post #59 of 72
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$30 million or $1 million, it's all still too high....


The latter isn't too high at all when you factor in inflation.  Doing the remake for $1 million would actually be perfect.

 

Raimi made The Evil Dead for about $400,000.  Using a basic online inflation calculator, that same production in 2010's economy would cost you about $950,000.

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"using filmmaking techniques that were not available to us thirty years ago"

 

Issuing this statement is missing the point...

 

The Evil Dead is a product of its time. The working conditions, no-budget, the practical effects on the fly, the blood, sweat and tears of it all, in front of and behind the camera. It truly was lightning in a bottle.

 

You want to remake The Evil Dead? Well, you're late to the game, because so many other filmmakers have copied it in the decades since.

 

You can up the ante and deliver a more polished (CG?) and technically sound remake on your "meager" $30 million "budget", but that's totally at the opposite end of the spectrum of what made the first film a classic.

 

With The Evil Dead, you're not trying to remake just a film (and a rather simplistic formula one at that), but you are trying to replicate a cultural phenomenon unique to a whole generation of horror fans.

 

Good luck with that.


He speaks the truth.

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Gah, I don't like Cody for this. She's a good writer, but EVIL DEAD doesn't need such a strong scripting voice behind it.


Exactly. It's the manic energy, leading man bravado, and hand-made innovation.



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 but Campbell is really busy with Burn Notice right now (and for the foreseeable future), so I don't see him showing up as anything more than a cameo.  Maybe he'll be the voice on the tape recorder.

That's what I thought. VO cameo.

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The title of this article is a nice turn of phrase.

 

Ditto.
 

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Yeah, it's fantastic because it's such a kinetic, joyous roller coaster ride, about as well directed as any horror movie ever made. It's not a shitty script or anything, but it's not exactly Network. Imagine, if you will, reading the script for Evil Dead 2 without any of the iconic camera movements, shot composition, or Bruce Campbell in your head. The tight plotting and dialogue are not these movie's strengths.

What he said.

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I believe Don Coscarelli when he says he wants to do Phantasm V.  I don't believe Sam when he speaks the same of ED4.

I concur.

 

I wonder if Justin Long's character from DRAG ME TO HELL ends up going to that cabin after all... Alison Lohman's Christine is the new Linda.

 

Without Raimi at the helm, these smells like Platinum Dunes style boneheadedness.
 

 

post #61 of 72
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I'm glad to see I wasn't the only one who thought we just might get to see The Evil Dead cabin at the end of Drag Me To Hell.  It would certainly be a fun connection and I honestly wouldn't mind Long having at least some sort of role in the film.

post #62 of 72

THE THING prequel teaser made me crack out my Carpenter DVD last night. I'm kinda in the mood now for the ED series. But I wanna finish revisiting the PHANTASM series because of the Franchise Me articles. What to do?

post #63 of 72
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THE THING prequel teaser made me crack out my Carpenter DVD last night. I'm kinda in the mood now for the ED series. But I wanna finish revisiting the PHANTASM series because of the Franchise Me articles. What to do?


I see no problem in segueing from Phantasm IV to The Evil Dead.  Those franchises were meant for a marathon viewing.  BTW, you aren't alone on the Franchise Me addiction.  I'm trying to catch up on everything I am wanting to watch right now before Josh starts up his Planet of the Apes articles.  I actually want to be able to watch along with him this time!  I wanted to with Phantasm, but my brother had borrowed them from me the week before he started.

 

post #64 of 72

I'll take more Drag Me To Hell but no more Justin Long. Ugh.

post #65 of 72


 

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There's a good reason to be pissed. Evil Dead IS Raimi having Bruce Campbell DO a Sam/Ted Raimi script. 



Ivan Raimi is the co-writing brother. I actually love the tone of their dialogue. I think they have the most fun in ED3/AoD, though Drag me to Hell has some fantastic lines in it. I think that would have been a tough but ultimately fun household to grow up in.

 

 

So, what's the word on Cabin in the Woods? Was that an attempt to reboot Evil Dead or at least claim that territory somewhat?

 

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So, what's the word on Cabin in the Woods?


This in-the-can flick popped into my head as well during all this discussion. Do we even know if it's a supernatural threat in that one and not some backwoods mongoloid? Hope it's the former. We don't need another another HATCHET.

 

post #67 of 72
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The latter isn't too high at all when you factor in inflation.  Doing the remake for $1 million would actually be perfect.

 

Raimi made The Evil Dead for about $400,000.  Using a basic online inflation calculator, that same production in 2010's economy would cost you about $950,000.

 

Ahhh, good point. I could settle at $950,000. A "cool million" sounds too much like fat cat money to me!
 

 

post #68 of 72
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This in-the-can flick popped into my head as well during all this discussion. Do we even know if it's a supernatural threat in that one and not some backwoods mongoloid? Hope it's the former. We don't need another another HATCHET.

 


 

I don't know if the supernatural is involved (probably is), but Cabin In The Woods is apparently a creature feature.

post #69 of 72

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This in-the-can flick popped into my head as well during all this discussion. Do we even know if it's a supernatural threat in that one and not some backwoods mongoloid? Hope it's the former. We don't need another another HATCHET.

 


We never needed the first Hatchet.

 

As for Cabin in the Woods, [Spoiler]  I read an early script review where it seemed to indicate the villains were actually wealthy businessmen ("white collar") who utilize the cabin as a Saw-style death trap.  The major difference is that, instead of using spring-loaded bear trap mouthpieces and such, traps are rigged in the manner of classic horror movies.  For example, there's a possessed tree (a la Evil Dead) death.  Meanwhile, there are other wealthy businessmen as a remote location betting on which of our unlucky teens will die, how they will die and who will survive. [/Spoiler]

 

post #70 of 72
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As for Cabin in the Woods,

 


Don't know how I feel about that plot summary. Part of me thinks it's really dumb and partt of me thinks it has potential to work in the right hands. Like a (spoiler) Scooby Doo meets SAW deconstruction?

 

post #71 of 72
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Anytime Devin mentions it over at Badass (and even when he was here), he talks about how awesome the creature concepts are for Cabin In The Woods..............................and I'm pretty sure he did a set visit.

 

 

That synopsis mentioned above sounds like a cross between Hostel and Rat Race.

post #72 of 72
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It seems the rumors of Bruce appearing in the film are becoming closer to fact, if some of the reports circulating are to be believed.

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