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post #51 of 60

I get what you're saying, but I'm getting the feeling people want this to be more like Flash Gordon, and I don't see why it has to be that way. I'm not really seeing a lack of pulp sensibilities either, just a little less overt than what we're used to. There's still aliens, some weird-looking architecture, swordplay, etc. Not to mention the fact that trailers rarely represent the full tone of the film.

 

I guess what I'm saying is that I'm still pretty excited for this, overt pulp sensibilities or no.

post #52 of 60

Chris Spider, Well, John Carter...Should, be pulpy, as it was launched in...1912, over a decade before Flash Gordon, Buck Rogers, and Conan!  It is quite amazing that John Carter was never adapted, as either a tv series, film, animated or live action.  I cannot wait to see John Carter.  I do not understand the comparisons to...Prince Of Persia.  Ok, there is a desert in both films.  There are...EEEEEvil Villains.  Otherwise I doubt POP has...Giant Green Aliens (Tharks), rampaging white gorillas, ray guns, Space Ships etc.  There is a hero and heroine, in both films as well.

post #53 of 60

 

 

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 It is quite amazing that John Carter was never adapted, as either a tv series, film, animated or live action.

 

actually.....there was "sort of" an attempt to make an animated JCM...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTAlgZlqwnQ

 

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Back in the 1940's, animation director Bob Clampett (director of Bugs Bunny and creator of Beany and Cecil) proposed a series of animated theatrical shorts adapting the John Carter of Mars books by Edgar Rice Burroughs (creator of Tarzan). This footage was the test reel for the studios. Apparently one major hollywood studio was interested in producing these shorts, but changed their mind when they thought the concept might be to weird for some people.

 

a bit more info here:  http://www.erbzine.com/mag21/2176.html

 

post #54 of 60

all this talk of JC needing to be "pulpy"......

 

in looking for a definition of "pulp".....the word that seems to come up often is "lurid".

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1.gruesome; horrible; revolting: the lurid details of an accident.
2.glaringly vivid or sensational; shocking: the lurid tales of pulp magazines.
3.terrible in intensity, fierce passion, or unrestraint: lurid crimes.

 

As much as I would love to see a full blown, "true to the source material" R-rated JC, no big Hollywood movie studio is going to cough up the needed $$ to make that movie...

 

Actually, if an an "accurate" Princess of Mars film was made, it would end up being NC17, seeing as, IIRC, all the characters in the original books pretty much run around completely naked except for jewelry and simple leather straps to hold their scabbards/swords....

 

If someone wants to talk Tarantino into filming his version of JC....

 

post #55 of 60

VTRan, It is too bad that...John Carter wasn't directed by Bob Clampett after seeing that footage.  I am not sure people want this JC to be NC 17 and pulpy.  I wouldn't mind at least as...Awesome as Marvel Comics John Carter: Warlord Of Mars!

post #56 of 60
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VTRan, It is too bad that...John Carter wasn't directed by Bob Clampett after seeing that footage.  I am not sure people want this JC to be NC 17 and pulpy.  I wouldn't mind at least as...Awesome as Marvel Comics John Carter: Warlord Of Mars!

 

FWIW, I had the whole run of the JC:WoM comics when they were originally released...I'm guessing that Marvel will be reprinting them sometime next year.
I would have loved to see a true animated, Pixar version of JC....IMO, they could really "go big" with the visual the scope.

I am keeping my fingers crossed that this will do justice to my memories of the books.

 

...and remember, it couldn't be any worse than this version....

 

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post #57 of 60

VTRan, Actually, I just finished reading Dark Horse Comics, reprinted trade paperback of...Marvel's John Carter: Warlord of Mars!  It was released  in March of this year, one year before John Carter...MARCHes all over his box office competition!  The collection is not only worth buying, it is a...MARVEL, of Swords, Ray Guns, Dejah Thoris, Rescues and Derring Do!  It is too bad that Disney couldn't have produced a...cartoon of John Carter, before release of the film, to introduce him to a new audience.

post #58 of 60
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There's a difference in something not being exactly what you pictured in your mind, and something not being as it was described. LOTR looked pretty much as it was described, regardless of what you saw in your mind's eye. This looks very little like what the books described. It's clearly the work of someone who is too timid to embrace the pulpiness of the source material, and settling for Disney bland.

Bingo.

 

What's particularly disappointing to me is there 's a history of attempted big studio adaptations for this property and they went THIS route. It way be too early to judge, but I wasn't teased by the poster or this footage. It's never going to look like Frazetta. I'll just have to face that, but it should at least look interesting.

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It is quite amazing that John Carter was never adapted, as either a tv series, film, animated or live action.


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Beat me to it.

 

post #59 of 60

Darkmite8, Let me rephrase that.  John Carter was created in...1912.  A dtv, made last year is the...first media adaption.  Before that, There were the original books by Edgar Rice Burroughs, and comics by Marvel and DC.  I am still amazed that in the 30's, when the Fleischer Brothers were putting out Superman, and Popeye, that John Carter wasn't animated.

post #60 of 60

I thought it was interesting that such a large percentage of the footage seemed to be with Carter on Earth, which, if memory serves, only accounted for a couple of chapters at most in the book.  I guess it's possible that they could be expanding on the idea that Carter went back and forth a couple of times over the course of the series (if wikipedia is to be believed.  I only ever read the first book.) 

 

Anyway, I actually enjoyed the trailer.  I watched it a couple of times, and I'm still eagerly looking forward to seeing the finished product.  And maybe it's just my Jake-Gyllenhaal-as-action-star prejudice, but I always thought Prince of Persia looked ridiculous.  I think this has a much better chance of being a satisfying movie experience. 

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