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The Closer - Final Season

post #1 of 22
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So we're two episodes into the final season of The Closer and so far the show is as high caliber as its ever been.  It looks like Brenda's moral retribution at the end of last season is going to be the focus of this season, and I'm guessing it could lead to her downfall at the LAPD, with her leaving at the end of the season to cap off the series.

 

The sudden death of the new Chief was a nice twist, since it looked like things were going to get shaken up in the department (though not for the better), but now we're back to the status quo, with Pope as acting chief and Commander Taylor continuing to be utterly useless.  I kinda miss how Taylor was in season 1 when he was actively working against Brenda, but now he's pretty much no good to anyone.  He's not even a good cop.  But seeing Pope turn on Brenda because he wants to keep his job was kinda sad.  He's always been there to protect her before, so seeing this development is kinda heartbreaking.

 

And Captain Raydor continues to be a thorn in Brenda's side, though this time its against her will.  Its funny that she kinda likes Brenda and doesn't want to press this investigation, but she's being commanded to by Pope and she's so like Brenda in her single-minded pursuit of her investigations that they are constantly clashing, even when Raydor is doing something she doesn't want to do.  And Brenda's moves to hold her off are always brilliant, as usual.

 

And was it just me, or was the rap song in the season opener insanely catchy?  lol.  I really liked all the slow-mo Brenda walks when it was playing.  Had a real gangsta vibe to it, like she's some bad ass walking into a fight.

post #2 of 22
See, my wife and I didn't think that Pope was really turning against Brenda. He was doing what he had to do to insure he, nor the force, get bitten in the ass at some later point unawares. Anyway, the point of the whole plot is that Brenda IS guilty. She knows it but doesn't want to admit it to herself. I've been waiting seasons for her shadier actions to catch up to her and I'm glad to see it finally happen.
post #3 of 22
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Um... I'm not so sure about that.  Raydor turned in her report that she found nothing there, but Pope is looking for a scapegoat he can dump this on to keep his job, which is why he ordered her to go back and find some dirt.  He's actively trying to throw Brenda under the bus because it serves his best interest.  His predecessor was willing to let this matter slide, after all, but he feels the need to pursue it for selfish reasons.

 

And honestly, I'm not sure if Brenda could be found "morally" guilty, since the guy she dropped off did kill an old man and a little boy, and was responsible for getting his twin brother and two other marines getting killed.  Technically, she didn't do anything wrong with his release, even if she did give the killer of the marines a phone call to let his homies know that guy was coming home.

 

The thing about Brenda is that she has a very rigid sense of Justice, and she can't abide letting technicalities set the guilty free, which is why she was brought into the LAPD in the first place, because she gets convictions that stick.  Pope was the one who gave that guy immunity and basically let him walk on a double murder.  I think that's what he's worried about more than anything.

post #4 of 22

Oh yeah. Pope is totally throwing Brenda under the bus.

 

And I think Raydor willing to let the matter dissappear is part of turning her into a "friendly" carachter since she will be heading up the spinoff next summer.

post #5 of 22

Unless the team messes up in interviews they really can't prove anything.  The extra phone calls Brenda allowed are about the only thing that could point to guilt.

 

I'll be interested to see who jumps to the spin off show.  Personally I think they should build a new cast with maybe Provenza and Taylor along for the ride.

post #6 of 22
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I hadn't heard about a spin off show.  Got any details?

post #7 of 22



 

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Originally Posted by Simon West will kill Again View Post

I hadn't heard about a spin off show.  Got any details?



It may be called Major Crimes with Raydor(Mary McDonnell) as the lead.  No wod if any of the other characters are carrying over.

 

I assume Branda and Fritz will move to DC or something.

 

post #8 of 22

I thought I read somewhere that a couple carachters would move to the new series. One of them has to be Provenza. GW Bailey kills in the role, I'd hate to see him go away.

post #9 of 22
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Last night's episode was really funny.  It seems that every season there's always one episode where Provenza and Flynn fuck up and hilarity ensues.  Only this time they involved Buzz.  The part where Fitz popped out the police sketches of Provenza and Flynn had me rolling with laughter.  Also, everyone seeming to be fine with Commander Taylor making a fool of himself in front of the press was just classic.  "I can live with that."  lol.

 

This episode seemed like a real bottle ep, since we didn't get any real movement on the whole IE investigation into Brenda or see Pope maneuvering to keep his position.  This one was just straight up Provenza and Flynn being good police but horrible human beings, lol.  I really hope those two move into the spin off.

 

We also got to see Gabriel's penchant for conspiracy theories.  That was pretty interesting too, ha ha.

post #10 of 22

Yeah, last nights episode was awesome in so many ways. They have to make sure Flynn and Provenza move over to the spin off. And the Commander Taylor stuff was just gold...especially the scene where they show him walking up to the podium.

post #11 of 22
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This episode was kinda meh.  It was cool seeing Taoub's relationship with his son, and his son being in awe of his dad when he sees him doing policework.  That was a nice touch for the show.  But the investigation this week was pretty uninteresting.  We did get the big "Raydor warns Brenda" scene at the end explaining how she's vulnerable to a civil action that could ruin her, which was an appropriate scene to end on.

 

But I don't really understand how the kid's dad got out of the interview room.  Those things are locked, aren't they?  Seemed like a poor plot device.

 

Hopefully next week's episode will be better.

post #12 of 22

Ok, so who's the mole?

 

I think you can cut the obvious one's like Taylor and even Gabriel. No way it's Provenza, Tau or Flynn. My guess...Pope or Sanchez.

post #13 of 22
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I'm definitely leaning towards Pope for the mole.  I doubt anyone in the unit would screw over Brenda after all they've been through.  Pope seems to think that throwing Brenda under the bus would help secure him his spot as Chief of Police, so that's motivation.

 

This was a good episode though.  i loved it when Brenda used the Tyrell Gibson killing to psyche out the dickhead lawyer into confessing.  Great scene.

post #14 of 22
I keep trying to understand people thinking Pope is screwing over Brenda but I don't see it like that. He gives a perfectly valid explanation for each of his actions. He's the Chief Of Police so that means he's got to handle both police-work and political BS. He even says so many times. The guy has gone out of his way to help Brenda plenty of times over the series.
post #15 of 22
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Damn.  Booger is totally obsessed with Brenda!  I was hoping the whole trial thing was done with, and then that final scene comes around.  Jeesh.  I guess the mole in the department let Booger know about all those other cases.  I'm guessing the mole is probably Commander Taylor since he has the most to gain if Brenda is out of the way and he was set to advance with the old Chief who died.  He's always kinda been an antagonist to Brenda as well.  Oh, and anyone else think Mark Pelegrino just steals every scene he's in?  Get this guy his own Boston Legal-esque show already!


Edited by Simon West will kill Again - 9/13/11 at 12:48am
post #16 of 22

Anyone else catch the new episodes over the past couple weeks. I'm kinda surprised the wrapped up the lawsuit so quickly. Although they did leave the identity of the mole hanging out there. Also nice to see them setting up Brendas exit with her likely heading back to Georgia at series end.

post #17 of 22
Something felt really off in the premiere. I dunno what it was but the quality didn't see the same almost kinda rushed...I dunno.

Although it looks like we get a Flynn/Provenza episode next week. Those are always the best.
post #18 of 22

It certainly didn't follow the usual format but I didn't have any problems with the episode.

post #19 of 22

You knew one of Brenda's parents was gonna die. But they couldn't have telegraphed it anymore than when her Mother said they had something to talk about and Brenda put it off until the next day. Still been very pleased with the final 6 so far except for the opener.

 

I guess we finally find out the mole next week. Keeping in mind it looks like the only ones not returning for "Major Crimes" are Brenda, Pope and Gabriel anyone have some early guesses?

post #20 of 22
So it was Gabriel but it wasn't....hmmm...I guess this is why he won't be in "Major Crimes"
post #21 of 22

I was hoping that Clay and Willie Ray would both make it out alive.  There was no reason to kill the old gal off with two episodes left.  The Gabriel reveal wasn't a surprise.  It's a shame what he had to go through.  I can understand the squad being upset, but Sanchez and Flynn took it too far.

 

I just noticed that Fritzie was going to be on Major Crimes also.  Kind of strange.

post #22 of 22
Satisfying enough finale. Shame to see it go.
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