CAPTAIN AMERICA: The First Avenger - Post Release Thread - Page 6

Quote:

Originally Posted by S.D. Bob Plissken 

I can understand the "2 hour Avengers prologue" complaints against Iron Man 2 and Thor, but not for Captain America.  It felt like its own story through and through to me, just like Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk did.

Yes but it felt exactly like Iron Man one and two, and Hulk for that matter.

Like I said, I'm having a hard time not thinking of Marvel Studios output as pretty 'samey' and identical these days.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diva 

You found the first half boring? I felt totally engaged with Steve. Once he became Cap, I got bored real fast.

OK, it's unfair for me to say that I found the first half boring, it definitely did engage me more than the second half, but almost every cool moment had been given away by the trailer.

I knew I couldn't be the only one who was pretty disappointed in this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Rain Dog 

Yes but it felt exactly like Iron Man one and two, and Hulk for that matter.

 

Like I said, I'm having a hard time not thinking of Marvel Studios output as pretty 'samey' and identical these days.

And not only Marvel, if you count Green Hornet and Green Lantern. With these superhero movies coming at us at such a rate, it's almost impossible to avoid noticing how similar they are. Instead of giving each of the films a distinct flavour and merely using the particular superhero as a means to tell a great tale all we get is retellings of the same rote guy with powers defeats a villain story. The good ones have been set apart more by enjoyable performances and some directorial flourishes than anything else. Really feels like they're taking the path of least resistance.

I guess that's why I responded so favourably to First Class, because even though it's wasn't perfect it really felt like the makers had aspirations that went beyond appealing to the lowest common denominator and telling the least ambitious story possible.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Rain Dog 

Yes but it felt exactly like Iron Man one and two, and Hulk for that matter.

 

Like I said, I'm having a hard time not thinking of Marvel Studios output as pretty 'samey' and identical these days.

That is pretty much the price we pay for finally getting a "shared" cinematic universe for Marvel's films.  They can tell their own stories within, but the overall look and style of the films is definitely going to be similar.  Honestly, it should be that way for it to make sense that they all take place in the same world..............at least the Earthbound stuff anyway.  I really don't have a problem with all the films having the same overall aesthetic.  The only problem I have had with their output so far is when they have chucked out films that needed more work on the script, which has happened twice so far (Iron Man 2 & Thor).  I don't have a problem with the concept of including SHIELD and other world-connecting concepts in these films, just with the execution.  There is nothing wrong with tossing SHIELD into these films, but they do need to make sure they have included in the story from the get-go and aren't trying to shoehorn stuff in at the last minute.  You want Hawkeye in Thor?  No problem!  Just make sure that he is apart of the script from Day One and that you have a damn good reason for him not appearing to fight alongside the SHIELD agents when The Destroyer lands on Earth.  Also, why have him there if you aren't going to have him take down Thor during the SHIELD compound sequence?  Would it have been that hard to have Clint incapacitate him and then fly off to wherever once he thinks things are under control in Arizona?  Basically, don't rush these films.  If you do and you're lucky, you will end up with something like Iron Man 2 and Thor.  On the opposite end, you can end up with a turd like Green Lantern.  If the proper care is given, the film will be all the better for it and will probably do well..................or at least have a better chance of it.
 

Green Lantern had no chance of making money because the previews looked horrendous from the get-go.  There is absolutely ZERO reason why a good movie couldn't have been made from that material.  Audiences didn't stay away because they are tired of superhero films.  They stayed away because it looked like shit, which is why it is the only superhero movie to hit this year that didn't do well.

- The Green Hornet had a budget of $120 million.  It only cleared $98 domestically, but finished with a worldwide total of $228 million.  It won't get a sequel, but it made money.

- Thor was budgeted at $150 million.  So far its domestic take is $181 and it's currently sitting at $448 million worldwide.

- X-Men: First Class had a budget of $160 million.  Domestically it only made $145, but it finished worldwide at $349 million.  This one was hurt by bad reactions to the last two entries though and I suspect Fox will push on with another X-Men flick regardless.  The Wolverine hits next year, so it will be interesting to see how that one does.

- Captain America's budget was $140 and it just crossed $143 this past weekend.  Worldwide it is already sitting at $246 and climbing.

Green Lantern cost at least $200 million to make and has only made $160 million worldwide ($114 domestically).  Unless they really are that desperate, I will be shocked if Warner Brothers actually makes a sequel to this puppy.  I suspect we'll just end up with a Man of Steel-style reboot sometime in the next decade or, at the very least, with a different Green Lantern in a Justice League movie (if one is ever made).

Audiences are still responding enthusiastically to superhero films.  Marvel has proven that time and time again over the past three years.  That said, they have to be decently made.................which is why DC is 1 for 3 with their franchises since 2005.  Warner Brothers has learned a lesson this summer.  I just hope it was the right one.

It's the strict adherence to the shared universe which is the problem, and I don't know why they have to be such an obvious focal point. Surely if you've got a SHIELD subplot in IRON MAN 2 which references both Thor and The Incredible Hulk then we don't need to play out the same sort of SHIELD subplot in Thor. Because we've already made the link that these films exist in the same universe. Same with Captain America, where I honestly think the bookend scene cut any dramatic momentum from the film. The film should have cut to credits with the kids playing in the street, with the modern day stuff after the animated credits and the Avengers Trailer after that.

I've still got a lot of patience for superhero films, I liked First Class and Thor way more than Captain America but thought both were tripped up by horrible third acts, but I'm sick of having to like these things with caveats.

While the SHIELD aspects aren't necessary, I still say they can easily gel with any given film as long as they are better written.  Bad writing is the main problem with those elements in IM2 and Thor.  Both scripts needed more work before production started, instead of constantly being rewritten on set.  As for the bookend sequence in Captain America, they should have saved Steve waking up for The Avengers.  The actual bookend should have involved them finding Rogers' body frozen in the plane and revealed that he was still alive.  It also should have been mid-credits.

Anyway, I suspect things will be fine post-Avengers...................at least in the sequels to the current batch of characters that we have right now.

Yeah I'm kind of fascinated in how Thor 2 and Iron Man 3 turn out without the baggage and having to promote the cross-over event, it might allow the films to have their own bit of personality.

S.D. Bob Plissken, Well The WB, just might greenlight a sequel, with a...New Green Lantern.  They might just move...Hal to The Justice League Film, and introduce another Green Lantern.  This way, there can be a new love interest or none at all, a new adventure tied to the first movie, but with a new hero, there could be a new mission not connected to the goings on at...Ferris Air!  It would not surprise me to see...John Stewart as the new GL (not the comedian, the John Stewart Green Lantern).  

Back to Captain  America.  I do not know how people see Captain America as the same as other Marvel Superhero Films.  I hope that the filmmakers keep mixing in WW2 Adventures with Dum Dum Dugan, Peggy and co, with Present Day Cap!  I...Love the inclusion of S.H.I.E.L.D. in the filmed Marvel Universe.  I hope that Fury gets to join in on the action in...The Avengers!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evi 

Yeah, we disagree.

Well, it's no fun if you just leave it at that.
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Rain Dog 

That, and I feel like I just watched yet another 2 hour leadup to Avengers 2012, rather than a movie unto itself.

Many of the Marvel films being dragged through the dirt here are really not "warm up" films for one down the line. I haven't seen Thor, but even so, his cinematic kin absolutely work on their own... both on a narrative level and as thoroughly enjoyable blockbuster films. It seems to me people are letting their own hang-ups get in the way and obsessing too much about the multi-tasking aspect of these movies. The way they've handled the "bridging" so far has been charming and unobtrusive from what I've seen. It adds another layer rather than paper over cracks.

How quickly people have gone from rightly praising Marvel's ambition in replicating their comic universe on film with linking movies to nit picking it. What was "awesome" a number of months ago is now only modestly impressive? Why am I not that surprised?

I think CAP's successful in being more self-contained than say IM2 because of it's distinct tone, the fact that it is a period piece, and its focus on its main character. IRON MAN 2 only succeeded at squandering the goodwill of the first entry, squandering its villains, including way too much crap, and boring me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DARKMITE8 

I think CAP's successful in being more self-contained than say IM2 because of it's distinct tone, the fact that it is a period piece, and its focus on its main character. IRON MAN 2 only succeeded at squandering the goodwill of the first entry, squandering its villains, including way too much crap, and boring me.

Well at least some good came of it.

I'm one of the people who still vaguely likes Iron Man 2, although a Re-Watch kinda revealed a lot of it's faults.

At the moment I'd go;

Thor/Iron Man > The Incredible Hulk > Iron Man 2 > Captain America. Largely because I found Hemsworth and Downey Jr. to be far more interesting on screen presences than Evans.

I actually enjoyed Iron Man 2 the most when I watched it on a long bus ride and had to turn off the volume because I forgot head phones. It worked like gangbusters for some reason.

Yeah, I think the opinions would be more favorable if we had no idea an Avengers movie was looming next year. I like the idea of a super spy organization pulling the strings from above, to the point where you kinda question how much influence these guys really have. I feel like, in Iron Man 2, it really makes Tony look like a myopic brat, which, in many ways, he is. And the off-brand bureacracy in Thor is a refreshing counterpoint to the epic Asgardian High Drama. As for Captain America, I think it was minimal, and that last sequence is a borderline nightmarish Jacob's Ladder scenario for our hero. Holy shit, WHAT HAPPENED TO TIMES SQUARE.

I think Tony as a douche will change in Joss's take. I really hope.

I just want to re-establish that I actually do like Iron Man 2 and Thor.  Just because I'm pointing out their faults doesn't mean I'm not a fan.
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by duke fleed 

S.D. Bob Plissken, Well The WB, just might greenlight a sequel, with a...New Green Lantern.  They might just move...Hal to The Justice League Film, and introduce another Green Lantern.  This way, there can be a new love interest or none at all, a new adventure tied to the first movie, but with a new hero, there could be a new mission not connected to the goings on at...Ferris Air!  It would not surprise me to see...John Stewart as the new GL (not the comedian, the John Stewart Green Lantern). 

Even if we do get a Green Lantern 2 or a Justice League film, I'll be shocked if they bring back Ryan Reynolds.  I have a feeling they are going to dump him, just like they did with Brandon Routh.  I just hope that Deadpool turns out well if it gets made.  So far poor Reynolds is 0 for 3 when it comes to starring in good superhero movies.

I don't get why he had to stay in the bomber.. couldn't he escape once it hit the water? He's captain america!

Also, Red Skull's red skull is too red it looks fake. It should've been darker red.

I thought Red Skull looked fine.  As for the bomber, Captain America or not, I imagine he was at least knocked unconcious by the force of it barreling into the ocean at that speed.

I did think it was pretty weird that Cap spends the whole movie essentially bulletproof, and then you're like, oh, a plane crash? How is he so sure that will kill him?

He could've found a way to escape the bomber. What happened in the comics?

I believe in the comics he ghostrode the whip.

Quote:

Originally Posted by blakninja 

He could've found a way to escape the bomber. What happened in the comics?

 

He crashed/fell into the ocean and froze.  Just like in the movie.  For better or worse, it was a faithful adaptation in that regard.

This is what happened (as shown in Avengers #4);

Bucky was Cap's Rodimus Prime

I agree that bad writing/execution has hampered the Marvel films to date. Yet I've enjoyed all of them (except Iron man 2) to date. I especially like the way SHIELD is portrayed differently in the films. In the Iron Man movies Nicky Fury and Agent Coulson are good guys, while in Thor SHIELD is a sinister organization. And in Incredible Hulk there is next to no SHIELD involvement (the Army uses the SHIELD database and monitoring capabilities to track Banner, and that's about it) .

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica 

Bucky was Cap's Rodimus Prime

The lad certainly had potential. I still call foul on a lot of this Marvel-bashing as retroactive backlash and nit-picking, but anyway.

You know, all this talk about Cap's lackluster second half made me realize just how many of the other superhero origin movies suffer from a similar problem. Off the top of my head Batman Begins, Spider-Man, X-Men, Iron Man, Donner's Superman all start off relatively strong but start running out of steam by the final act.

It's because most of them are origin stories, and that's the grist of your character arc. Once the mask comes on, it's straightforward, unchanging good vs. evil. The best "superhero" sequels seem to be so plot-heavy that the superheroes in question hardly get the spotlight, because they've already gone through their major catharsis. Spider-Man 2 bucks this trend, but the most tired and easy sequel trope appears there, in the "I don't like superheroing anymore" plot twist.

Nobody wants to make the superhero movie that focuses specifically on how they manage a love life. Or balance a check book. Or get into some work-related issue out of costume. It's all, "THERE'S ANOTHER GLOBAL THREAT THAT NEEDS MY ATTENTION" etc. etc.

There's also what was discussed in the DKR thread, like Grant Morrison said nobody is comfortable with a rich white guy beating the shit out of thugs. It would be hard to empathize with a superhuman like Rogers dealing with "normal" soldiers. At least this film avoided the "I don't want to be a superhero" thread. Much like Thor our protagonist is a kinda a hero from the first minute.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby Bear 

The lad certainly had potential. I still call foul on a lot of this Marvel-bashing as retroactive backlash and nit-picking, but anyway.

 

I agree. Marvel is not perfect, but pretty much all of their movies are good, and even IM2 and TIH are not terrible films. Marvel also has the guts to connect all their movies via a shared universe, which has never been attempted before, to build toward a big event called the Avengers. Chris Nolan gets alot of accolades for his movies, and deservedly so, but in the end he is just making a trilogy and not doing anything that hasn't been done before, but he does it so well that people think he's reinventing the wheel. At least you can't say the same about Marvel and their Avengers movie.
 

Andres, That must be one of the reasons that I...Don't enjoy Grant Morrison's Comics.  I cheer for...Every hero to beat up thugs.  Race doesn't enter into it.  It is just like in the 80's when William Shatner as T.J. Hooker called most of the criminals he arrested...Scum or Punk!  I always...Cheer for...Heroics in Superhero films.

Gabe T, I have to...Disagree with your assessment of what is...Best in a Superhero Film.  I want a Superhero sequel to be filled with...Action, rescues of a...Damsel in Distress, Stopping the...EEEEEEEEEEvil Villain and his/her Henchmen!  I hate seeing the hero want to hang up his/her tights.  What did we as the audience spend the first film getting the origin, if we are not going to be served a...Buffet of nearly non stop action.

JLassiter, How can Captain America have a...Boring 2nd Half?  That involves the rescue of the 107th, meeting Dum Dum Dugan, and his Howling Commando Buddies, and the final battle at HYDRA HQ, as well as the fight on...The Red Skull's plane, and Cap's good-bye to his lady love Peggy!

Anyway, I saw Captain America...Again today.  To me, Captain America The First Avenger is the...Best Film Of 2011!  It is also my new...Favorite Superhero Film!  I hope Cap 2 has him once again throwing his mighty shield into theaters by...2014!

Quote:

Originally Posted by duke fleed 

JLassiter, How can Captain America have a...Boring 2nd Half?  That involves the rescue of the 107th, meeting Dum Dum Dugan, and his Howling Commando Buddies, and the final battle at HYDRA HQ, as well as the fight on...The Red Skull's plane, and Cap's good-bye to his lady love Peggy!

Duke, it's not that I found the the second half of the movie boring. In fact, I found myself very entertained throughout the whole film and I think it's the best movie Marvel Studios has put out since Iron Man (although I haven't had the chance to see Thor yet). However, like a lot of our fellow posters, I found the Cap's character arc had essentially concluded after the rescuing the 107th leaving the rest of the film essentially dramatically inert up until Cap decided to sacrifice himself at the end. 

I wished we could have seen much more of Dum Dum and the rest of the Howling Commandos. I wanted to see them become characters in their own right and not just window dressing for a fun action montage. Honestly, I thought that once Rogers became Captain America proper, the film was in a rush to tie up its plot-lines and dump Steve in the ocean so we can set up the Avengers.

Just read this on another board:

Excuse me...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anger Management 

I agree. Marvel is not perfect, but pretty much all of their movies are good, and even IM2 and TIH are not terrible films. Marvel also has the guts to connect all their movies via a shared universe, which has never been attempted before, to build toward a big event called the Avengers. Chris Nolan gets alot of accolades for his movies, and deservedly so, but in the end he is just making a trilogy and not doing anything that hasn't been done before, but he does it so well that people think he's reinventing the wheel. At least you can't say the same about Marvel and their Avengers movie.

Good lad! I'm glad not everyone is afraid to call Nolan like they see him. Not to take anything away from his work - which is deserving of a lot of the praise it gets - but there's a baffling lack of perspective when it comes to some of this stuff. Because Marvel do mainstream and accessible well, they're taken to task as being "sloppy" or "lightweight" and so on. It's the same online snobbery that James Cameron, another fashionable target for backlash, falls victim to so often because he writes clear themes and delivers solid blockbuster entertainment. Nolan's worthy tone becomes stultifying upon repeated viewing, for all its technical pizazz. I'd rather have a Marvel film that marries fun and substance (in a film that actually feels like a comic book.)

I also think that people saying Weaving's performance and appearance in Captain America were "acceptable" or words to that effect sums up the lengths people will go to to find fault where there is little to none.

Jesus tap dancing Christ Bobby, some people just disagree with you. Why the fuck does there have to be some mass conspiracy of group think or some mass internet movement determined on nit picking Marvel films for any kind of criticism of the film to make sense to you?

Some people just weren't that god-damn jazzed by the movie, for some of us we're reaching critical mass with bloody superheroes and the Marvel canon isn't automatically everyones favourite comic book universe anyway.

Cool the jets dude, you don't need to mount some giant crusade against how wrong everyone is compared to you on this (and that straw man you're beating on most of all). You could maybe just accept that response to films are subjective, and that people are entitled to their god damn opinion without being charged with participating in some mass online rule of the mob.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby Bear 

I also think that people saying Weaving's performance and appearance in Captain America were "acceptable" or words to that effect sums up the lengths people will go to to find fault where there is little to none.

 

Weaving's performance and appearance were perfect.  To me, it merely felt 'acceptable' because the movie gave him nothing of weight to do.  There is so much good in Captain America.  It's just the film itself that let me down in the end (I say this even though I got a lot of enjoyment out of the film).  I don't mind 'lightweight.'  I LOVE lightweight!  I wouldn't call the film sloppy.  The present day stuff made the film feel sloppy, definitely.  But mostly, the 2nd half just felt undercooked.  It needed more punch.  And I don't mean it needed to be darker or grittier.

I like this movie and Nolan's Batman movies. And I'm sick of superhero movies. Which conspiracy group do I belong in? I'm confused.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sebastian OB 

I like this movie and Nolan's Batman movies. And I'm sick of superhero movies. Which conspiracy group do I belong in? I'm confused.

Line on the left, one cross each...

Sir, this came completely out of the blue with me. You seem to think my earlier posts were composed under a veil of red mist or something. This was not the case. I was just making a few points. I even read back over my last post to see if I could see what you did because I was so surprised by how offended you sounded! I don't know where you got it from, but I wasn't angry.

Not once did composing a paragraph or two feel to me like I was mounting a "giant crusade", nor did I want it to.

This isn't the first time I've been mistakenly accused of shouting the place down. It's just the way my "text voice" seems to come across at times. No harm was intended. It was the same with Evi earlier in the thread, actually. I was just messing around only for the very sarcastic "yeah, we disagree" I heard back in reply to kill the debate before it got going.

I think anyone who's had real debates with me on here will hopefully attest that I don't need everyone to agree with me. Diversity is all part of the fun and I'm well aware people are entitled to their own opinions. I didn't need it angrily and condescendingly spelled out to me. My jets are so far from in need of cooling it's funny to me that I'm even having to say it.

Now, may I suggest we forget all our troubles with a big bowl of some form of strawberry ice cream? Or something equally wholesome?

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcnooj82 

Weaving's performance and appearance were perfect.  To me, it merely felt 'acceptable' because the movie gave him nothing of weight to do.  There is so much good in Captain America.  It's just the film itself that let me down in the end (I say this even though I got a lot of enjoyment out of the film).  I don't mind 'lightweight.'  I LOVE lightweight!  I wouldn't call the film sloppy.  The present day stuff made the film feel sloppy, definitely.  But mostly, the 2nd half just felt undercooked.  It needed more punch.  And I don't mean it needed to be darker or grittier.

I can appreciate all of this. I think most of the complaints raised against the film registered with me as well, but they didn't bother me because everything I thought worked (Weaving, Evans, the WWII combat stuff, everything HYDRA...) was all so much fun to watch, especially with a crowd. If my comments seemed to suggest I thought this was some sort of masterwork, I've again given off the wrong impression. I'm well aware it has flaws (and I really didn't like the look of the old New York stuff much) but I thought the pros easily outweighed the cons, so it succeeded in its mission.

Heck, just the other day I was sitting on the bus thinking I would have lost the whole U.S.O. show sequence and replaced it with something better.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sebastian OB 

I like this movie and Nolan's Batman movies. And I'm sick of superhero movies. Which conspiracy group do I belong in? I'm confused.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Rain Dog 

Line on the left, one cross each...

I didn't go starting trouble, yet I already seem to have been declared guilty of inciting division before I've had a chance to reply. Well, my offer of ice cream still stands. If you gents decide to take it easy instead of jumping to conclusions, you're more than welcome.

Does it not make more sense for everyone on the boards to start treating everyone a bit better, now that the number of snark-merchants has dwindled substantially? Makes sense to me.

I know you didn't mean it like that, Bobby, and I certainly didn't take it as harshly as Rain Dog but calling detractors online snobs and saying they're going to massive unfair lengths to find fault are the sort of statements that would make people get defensive.

And for what it's worth, my "Yeah, we disagree" wasn't meant to be sarcastic I just wasn't sure what to say and it seemed to me that you were looking for a fight (though I now know you weren't). There was nothing in your post that I would call objectively wrong, but I didn't enjoy the film the way you did.

I was just funnin' around Bobby. Riffing, as it were. Bowl of ice cream accepted.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evi 

I know you didn't mean it like that, Bobby, and I certainly didn't take it as harshly as Rain Dog but calling detractors online snobs and saying they're going to massive unfair lengths to find fault are the sort of statements that would make people get defensive.

 

And for what it's worth, my "Yeah, we disagree" wasn't meant to be sarcastic I just wasn't sure what to say and it seemed to me that you were looking for a fight (though I now know you weren't). There was nothing in your post that I would call objectively wrong, but I didn't enjoy the film the way you did.

You're absolutely right, Evi. I can see how that might have sounded now. I didn't mean to call anyone personally a "snob." I just think that kind of backlash is very common and the Marvel U-Turn that seems to have taken place with a lot of people flagged up with me as another example of that. There seems to be a strain among fanboy types that "dark and gritty" is acceptable as it's the most "literary" or "sophisticated" type of genre entertainment, ergo Marvel's funny mainstream films are prime targets and Nolan's - as I see it - dour and almost joyless take on Batman is the high watermark.

And sorry for accusing you of sarcasm in the wrong. I've just got enough responses like that on this board before to think that's how it was meant is all. I'm glad this worked out for the best.
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sebastian OB 

I was just funnin' around Bobby. Riffing, as it were. Bowl of ice cream accepted.

Oh, cool! Cheers, Sebastian. Sorry if I blamed you in the wrong as well.

I still intend to save some ice cream for Rain Dog just in case.

Did someone say something about ice cream?

Indubitably!

You're gonna need a bigger spoon though, nooj. This isn't some Mickey Mouse Ben and Jerry's teeny pot operation we're running here. This is the Majors. The every topping or nothing days. They're BACK!

Ice cream is my kryptonite.  It's one of those foods I enjoy so much that I forget I'm eating it until the container is empty.

Also... I thought we were in the Sin City 2 thread for a second.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcnooj82 

Ice cream is my kryptonite.  It's one of those foods I enjoy so much that I forget I'm eating it until the container is empty.

 

Also... I thought we were in the Sin City 2 thread for a second.

Sin City 2: Strawberry Shortcake Boogaloo!

That would get me excited for it again. It's just Mickey Rourke and Stana Katic delivering gaudy Neo-Film Noir lines and eating iced cream for 2 delicious hours.

I know what you mean about that kind of food. I'm big into savory stuff, especially peanuts and crisps / "chips." Partial to a pretzel or two as well, though a beautiful bowl of ice cream is hard to beat.

Um. Sorry for the derail, guys. Captain America had a big food promotional campaign, didn't it? We didn't get anything over here. Was there Captain America-flavour ice cream?

Bobby Bear, Dunkin Donuts did have a Captain America promo, with a Star Spangled Donut, and an Icee in a red, white, and blue cup!  Cap himself did get put on...ICE after he...CREAMed the Red Skull, and smashed his toys.

That's just one of the reasons why I love the U.S.A! Thanks for the info, duke. I knew I'd heard something like that.

We couldn't even have our own equivalent because we'd never decide on what to call the guy or which colours to use in his food. Would it be green, white, and orange or would it be red, white, and blue? Would he represent the whole community or would each side get their own donut-endorsing hero? Ugh.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcnooj82 

Did someone say something about ice cream?

Someone better save me some mint choco chunk dammit.

Aw what? I missed ice cream???

There was no ice cream here, my friend...