The Walking Dead Season 2 (AMC) - Page 9

There's plenty of discussion about the actual show. It just gets hidden amongst all the wailing and gnashing of teeth because of differing opinions.

I'm constantly reminded of SNL-era Adam Sandler as Mama, screaming "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" across the table at her children.

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Originally Posted by The Prankster 

Please don't be condescending about it. It's pretty clear that the mechanics of survival do matter to some people and not to others. I've already made it clear that I don't care that much about the nitty-gritty, but there needs to be SOME level of attention paid, or it's just annoying and lazy. You mention Lost, and yes, there was some nice attention paid to how the castaways were going to survive in the early going...that was actually some of the most interesting stuff the show did, because it tied into how the castaways were going to form their own de facto little society, something that later seasons sadly abandoned. This isn't OCD nitpicking, it's central to the show, because what makes the story unique is the way the heroes are cut off from civilization, and the level of desperation and intensity that adds to the drama. If everything continues on as if they were in someone's backyard, much of the power of the premise is lost.

 

TWD is, like I say, better than Lost about this stuff, in my humble opinion. But I'm a little on the fence about the farm, I have to admit. They do have the opportunity in future episodes to go a bit into exactly how they survive out here, and I'll probably be fine with it. But I do think they at least need to nod in the direction of, say, having occasional anti-zombie patrols, or how much fuel they have left (I'm guessing the fact that they'll eventually run out might be what leads these characters to join up with the main group. See how that works? Necessity fuels drama.)

Nicely put, and I'm firmly in the "mechanics of survival" camp. If the show is going continue to grind at this glacial pace forever, then the writers can damn well fill in a few blanks about the logistics of it all. Not every blank...just a few more than they have so far.

If this lack of detail originated in the comic then we can just chalk it up to weakness in the source material, otherwise it simply becomes incurious and lazy writing.

I thought it was a really nice touch, and gave tons of explanations for later events, when Herschel asked for the foal kit.  

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Originally Posted by Sebastian OB 

Considering what we know of the production, I think the editing has been OK. Room for improvement, sure. But considering how crazy things have been behind the scenes I think the editing has been fine. I understand what's going on from scene to scene. You'd think that would be a given but I've seen big budget mega blockbusters that can't get that right.

 

I'll give the benefit of the doubt here and roll back my thoughts on editing slightly as this makes for a good argument to explain my problems with continuity and choppy cuts.

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Originally Posted by Sebastian OB 

This is total, utter bullshit. Every post I make I concede to flaws the show has. You however make sweeping pronouncements as fact and gleefully dog the show at every turn. So you had a few nice things to say about the last episode. Big deal. I must have missed that trying to sift through your nitpicking.

 

There is clearly a faction here that is really only looking to find fault with this show and you are leading the charge.

 

I am leading no charge, I'm pretty sure that I didn't even bother to join in for much of the discussion of the things listed below(from Ep.3) because, while I will admit they did make me pause, I didn't have any problems with them.  Excuse me for being guilty of liking the latest episode by omission.  Despite your feelings that I am only looking to find fault with the show I didn't nitpick the latest episode because you are wrong on that assertion.

The writing is bad.  Bad for B-TV?  Bad for Drama?  Horrendous by the standards I feel that should emanate from AMC regardless of genre or whatever else.  You are clearly in the minority in feeling the writing isn't a problem on the show.  Fair discussion that falls outside of your name calling "internet armchair, Aspergian, OCD geek" to detractors.

The acting, in the presence of Rooker, Reeder, DeMunn and the stellar supporting guest stars, leaves much to be desired.  It glares in the case of Callies, less so in the case of the rest of the "relatively unknown" cast.  The contrast between some of the actors and the rest brings to light faults in the show.  Are those faults writing or acting?  That's a fair discussion to be had as well.

The first two episodes continued the downward slope of the first season.  You seem to feel that because it has triple the ratings of the rest of AMC's stable that somehow makes it a good show.  By your reasoning I can only assume that Arrested Development was an unfunny and deserved-of-cancellation abomination.  The third episode was different.  That doesn't rescue the stupidity of the first eight episodes.  It buys it time.

 

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nitpicks so far

-Bread

-power

-hot water

-laundry

-window security

-food

 

As to the above, Sebastian, I didn't join in the dogpile on these issues because I didn't have a problem with them.  Again, my apologies for liking the episode by omission.  I don't have a problem with the food, the OJ is a tad askew but I let it slide.  I don't have a problem with electricity and hot water because I figure a vet would have back-up power of some kind at his farm house.  These survivors also seem to be level headed and have made foraging trips so their preparation in these areas doesn't surprise me.  Scott Wilson(Herschel) is a decent character actor that kept me from jumping on these issues because of his portrayal of his character.

As to security, I don't care for the problems people are having about the farmhouse occupants supposed lack of alertness.  The house is five miles from the high school, plenty of distance for a non-agitated zombie or herd to take plenty of time to cover.  The past few episodes have shown us that the woods are not full of herds but rather one or two straggler zombies so I can imagine the farm is well protected from being set upon by a large group which the survivors couldn't fight off.  People have been remarking it is two miles from the highway but I must have missed that specific piece of mileage information.  I do recall the conversation to Glenn about doubling back to the exit and then a bit away from the road to the gate then from the looks of the field in front of the farmhouse which is nestled in woods I wouldn't be surprised if the main house is a half mile to a mile off a secondary road.  How far from the highway I thought was up in the air.

I feel that farmhouse is pretty well protected ala the house near the end of 28 Days Later.  Plenty of visual time to notice one or two(which is all there probably would be) walkers headed towards them and rifles to fend them off or go out and meet them with a quieter short range weapon.

My lack of describing all this must indicate some deep seated need to hate the show at every turn.  No, this episode got me to tune in next week but it didn't make me a sudden supporter out to counter other people's problems with the show.  I mentioned Andy Dufresne a few posts back.  Right now the show is returning to its cell after "buff[ing] those shoes to a high mirror shine."  It still has a long way to go.

I'm sure the farmhouse is well protected but I would not be sitting out on the porch at night.

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Originally Posted by TzuDohNihm 

 

The writing is bad.  Bad for B-TV?  Bad for Drama?  Horrendous by the standards I feel that should emanate from AMC regardless of genre or whatever else.  You are clearly in the minority in feeling the writing isn't a problem on the show.  

 

 

I'm just curious, what is that based on, that he is in the minority?  Chud.com... or are we talking a general consensus across the board?

Because minus the AICN talkbackers of the world, most the reviews I've read from the major  sources;  The EW, the USA Todays of the world, seem to think the show is damn good.

IMDB has a 8.8 rating as well, and MetaCritic has it at an 82/100.   Most of the "hate" or "dislike" I see from this show come from the loud, but nameless few on Internet talk backs.  Most of the people I talk with about the show, from my father, co-workers, grandma, friends, hell, even the 60 year old receptionists at my work, enjoy the show A LOT.  I respect everyone's opinion, but again, I don't understand why people continue to watch a show they despise.  Just comes off silly.  I don't like Hockey, so I don't watch it.  I don't feel the need to watch the Red Wings, go to a forum about them, and tell everyone how much their team sucks, and what they did wrong, and how dumb the sport is.  Tzu, I'm not reffering to you directly, but just making a blanket statement about the complaints and hatred I see spewed for this show.  I just don't understand it. 

Nick, seriously, go back to whining about your second job.  You're an instigator.  You sit in the middle and poke at both sides of this discussion and watch the flare-ups.  I specifically said in the quoted section you use that Sebastian is in the minority about the consensus on the writing, not the entire show.  The writing is a weak spot for even the writers I read who like the show.

Once again, the show being popular doesn't translate to a quality product.  See my inclusion of Arrested Development for your obtuse instigations.

And yet again... so fucking tiring you people are... I don't despise the show.  It had a phenomenal series opener, slid into the dumps for a short season, continued that slide in the Season 2 opener and took a step towards mediocrity in the third episode.  The presence of half the cast and the all around excellent supporting actors that are brought in as guest stars keep me coming back hoping things get better.  Beyond that I am giving the show the benefit of the doubt not dry-humping it despite its flaws or jumping around the thread with a shit-eating grin on my face like you poking at anyone and everyone trying to stir shit up.

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Originally Posted by NickP 

 

Most of the people I talk with about the show, from my father, co-workers, grandma, friends, hell, even the 60 year old receptionists at my work, enjoy the show A LOT.  I respect everyone's opinion, but again, I don't understand why people continue to watch a show they despise.  

Those people also love the Transformer movies, Jersey Shore, Charlie's Angels, hell lets not get into the first and second highest grossing films of all time...I'm not directly referring to the people you mentioned, rather the general puiblic...who doesn't seem to know good writing they see it.  They see zombies and long, dramatic monologues and think its a great show.  Truly great writing generally gets ignored in this country, it's more about hype and eye candy and wearing everything on its dramatic sleeve like The Walking Dead is doing.

I don't despise the show, I like it like I like well drinks at a bar...they're cheap and not horrible and get me drunk, so I come back to the well again and again.  But for someone to say two buck chuck from Trader Joes is great wine is a major stretch.  The show is good enough to come back to every week for now just to see if it gets better.

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Originally Posted by TzuDohNihm 

Nick, seriously, go back to whining about your second job.  You're an instigator.  You sit in the middle and poke at both sides of this discussion and watch the flare-ups.  I specifically said in the quoted section you use that Sebastian is in the minority about the consensus on the writing, not the entire show.  The writing is a weak spot for even the writers I read who like the show.

 

Once again, the show being popular doesn't translate to a quality product.  See my inclusion of Arrested Development for your obtuse instigations.

 

And yet again... so fucking tiring you people are... I don't despise the show.  It had a phenomenal series opener, slid into the dumps for a short season, continued that slide in the Season 2 opener and took a step towards mediocrity in the third episode.  The presence of half the cast and the all around excellent supporting actors that are brought in as guest stars keep me coming back hoping things get better.  Beyond that I am giving the show the benefit of the doubt not dry-humping it despite its flaws or jumping around the thread with a shit-eating grin on my face like you poking at anyone and everyone trying to stir shit up.

Tzu, second time on this threat you have to regress to personal insults to try to get your point across.  No... No... You earned this

and again, you claim he is in the minority... fucking back up your claims.  I mean, you write "obtuse instigations" yet I reference Meta Critic that collects reviews of the show.  

Half of your posts on this thread is pointless hyperbole. 

now go back to watching TV shows you don't like,  just show you can be "that guy"

I think if the Walking Dead really wants to be "scary" they reference this site.  

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EDIT: The below post was written after someone kinda suggested I was nitpicking the show like a hater. I see now that a long discussion about nitpicking is underway, so apologize for sounding like a repeat of others.

I love this show and love the comic as well, just so you don't think of me as a hater because I noticed bread.

Why do people throw hissy-fits at other people's nitpicks? Maybe we should just drop the term "nitpick" and call it "amusing observations" (nah too long) cause that's all it is for many people. I make these observations all the time when I watch the show and I still love it. It's a fucking zombie show, why so serious?

I also noticed how slow the zombies were towards the end as compared to the beginning of the episode. If I were to post that observation in here, it would be to perhaps get a few theories as to why this was the case. Maybe the zombies react in accordance to the prey they are after? If a prey is running their instinct is to run as well, if the prey is walking the walkers lack the intelligence to simply run in order to catch up faster, and instead simply react on how alerted their instinct is, which is low when someone walks. Kinda like a growling dog that don't attack untill you run.

Or maybe the makers simply don't care about those details.

But they can be fun to discuss anyway.

I think my primary problem with this show isn't the show itself, but the pedigree, which I realize isn't fair. That's all on me I guess.
I'm not judging it against other genre shows really, I'm judging it based of the fact that it really SHOULD be better. AMC? Darabont(for a while, at least)? KNB? ZOMBIES ON TV?!! I'm judging this thing as a "replacement" for Breaking Bad(oh horrible idea!), when I should really be thinking of it as AMC's equivalent of True Blood.

And I like it far better than True Blood, warts and all.

I think much of the show was really miscast, and the weak writing isn't (yet)overcoming it. I haven't lost hope.

Not a hater, I swear!

Jesus Nick pull in the claws.  It's an internet message board.

You know what's not worth getting pissed off about? The fucking Walking Dead on AMC. Getting angry about Dexter would be more justified, for Hell's sake. Dexter!

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Originally Posted by Nexus-7 

I think my primary problem with this show isn't the show itself, but the pedigree, which I realize isn't fair. That's all on me I guess.
I'm not judging it against other genre shows really, I'm judging it based of the fact that it really SHOULD be better. AMC? Darabont(for a while, at least)? KNB? ZOMBIES ON TV?!! I'm judging this thing as a "replacement" for Breaking Bad(oh horrible idea!), when I should really be thinking of it as AMC's equivalent of True Blood.

And I like it far better than True Blood, warts and all.

I think much of the show was really miscast, and the weak writing isn't (yet)overcoming it. I haven't lost hope.

 

Not a hater, I swear!

I'd say this is absolutely my stance.  I'd say for people who have problems with the show this is most likely where they are coming from.  The question is, is this an appropriate frame of reference?  I say yes.

The show brings it on itself though, with all the sermonizing. Personally, I never expected another Breaking Bad or Mad Men, I just hoped that this might match Fringe or earlier Supernatural as the next great genre show.

Shane isn't my favorite character; he's the ONLY character. Everybody else on the show walks around the forest, delivering exposition and annoying me.

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Originally Posted by Nexus-7 

I think my primary problem with this show isn't the show itself, but the pedigree, which I realize isn't fair. That's all on me I guess.
I'm not judging it against other genre shows really, I'm judging it based of the fact that it really SHOULD be better. AMC? Darabont(for a while, at least)? KNB? ZOMBIES ON TV?!! I'm judging this thing as a "replacement" for Breaking Bad(oh horrible idea!), when I should really be thinking of it as AMC's equivalent of True Blood.

And I like it far better than True Blood, warts and all.

I think much of the show was really miscast, and the weak writing isn't (yet)overcoming it. I haven't lost hope.

 

Not a hater, I swear!

Pretty much the same, really.  Sure, I see a ton of lost opportunity to have a really special, kick-ass zombie show to geek out over... but I'm still entertained week by week.  I can see a better show strugglng to get free of its own limitations and weaknesses and I haven't given up hope on it.  If I gave up on Supernatural this early into its run, I'd still think it was a cheap X-Files knock-off.  The ingredients are all there to make TWD a truly epic show, and I'm game for watching it succeed or fail.  At least a show like this has the unique ability to kill off EVERY character it gets sick of at any given time.

To me, the most interesting part of this show, as well as the novels, is exactly HOW they survive. We all like to put ourselves in that "what if" scenario and see what we would do. I totally understand the nitpicking of the farmhouse. The last episode was very good, but I was always questioning things. Like the fresh bread, the OJ, the windows. Hell, all they closed was the SCREEN DOOR everytime somebody came in/went out. It's things like that that take me out of the tense scenario. I would expect them to have their own Dale... a person on the roof of the farmhouse at all times keeping watch. Hell, even a patrol to go out every hour or so just to check the grounds. Again, this is myself putting me in that scenario. I don't know if the characters on the show are just that care-free/stupid or if the writers/directors really don't care about the little details.

I've thought way too hard about this. And close the fucking front door you assholes!

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Originally Posted by Anjin 

Pretty much the same, really.  Sure, I see a ton of lost opportunity to have a really special, kick-ass zombie show to geek out over... but I'm still entertained week by week.  I can see a better show strugglng to get free of its own limitations and weaknesses and I haven't given up hope on it.  If I gave up on Supernatural this early into its run, I'd still think it was a cheap X-Files knock-off.  The ingredients are all there to make TWD a truly epic show, and I'm game for watching it succeed or fail.  At least a show like this has the unique ability to kill off EVERY character it gets sick of at any given time.

And introduce new mainstays along the way.

Seriously, they can go all Janet Leigh on this cast and really build the storyline.

As far as "genre shows" go, personally I think this show is pretty unique. I mean with The Walking Dead, as bad as it gets, at least I don't feel like handing over my horror geek card after watching an episode. Doesn't feel like I'm betraying my Romero/Fulci/Manchester Morgue roots. Whereas I'll eat a goddamn bullet before I let True Blood or Supernatural into my life.

Ugh, this discussion got ugly real fast. Unpleasant stuff, hombres. You should all take a page from the Breaking Bad discussion and keep it warm and fuzzy. 

You're missing out on "Supernatural", Disciple.

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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis 

You're missing out on "Supernatural", Disciple.

Yeah but not this season, start with one and end it with 5.

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Originally Posted by NickP 

 

Tzu, second time on this threat you have to regress to personal insults to try to get your point across.  No... No... You earned this

 

 

 

and again, you claim he is in the minority... fucking back up your claims.  I mean, you write "obtuse instigations" yet I reference Meta Critic that collects reviews of the show.  

Half of your posts on this thread is pointless hyperbole. 

now go back to watching TV shows you don't like,  just show you can be "that guy"

 

I think if the Walking Dead really wants to be "scary" they reference this site.  

 

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

http://www.okcupid.com/profile/TzuDohNihm

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This post is absurd. NickP should be banned for this nonsense.

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Originally Posted by BlackyShimSham 

Ugh, this discussion got ugly real fast. Unpleasant stuff, hombres. You should all take a page from the Breaking Bad discussion and keep it warm and fuzzy. 

It's died down a little, I hope. There's one or two posters in this thread that get really butt-hurt and show their ass when geeks like myself start talking "Survival 101" or dare to notice writing weaknesses, etc. Also note that it's not the so-called nitpickers who are being uncivil or going nuclear when opinions differ. I personally don't desire to come off as a condescending douche.

And NickP's vitriol is wholly ridiculous.

Yeah, he crossed a line with that OK Cupid thing. And he's calling someone else a cunt?

In NickP's half-hearted defense, Tzu did go for a low blow by bringing up his second job, which if you know the story you'd know that was uncalled for. Both sides are muddied. But yeah, the OK Cupid thing was petty. 

It's enough to make this Blacky keep his Walking Dead opinions to himself. Which is unfortunate for all of you, because I have such insights to share! 

Not for nothing, knowing someone had an OK Cupid profile would probably make me more likely to credit their opinion of the zombie TV show. 

BWAH-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Holy shit, Nick, you're just as weird as the porn stash and piss and shit hoarder that you have made yourself out to be around here.  You got so incensed about me calling you out for being an instigator you creepily began to cyber stalk me?  Wow, way to deflect criticism.

Funnily enough because of your disjointed grammar and incoherent rambling I didn't click the spoiler tag you offered because I thought it related to the show.  It was only when others began to mention it that I looked at it.  So, zinger missed.  Ineffective and boring as usual.

Two of those photos are in the Chewervision 2.0 thread I believe, one is not.  It's funny there was a dust-up about it because I could have sworn I closed that account a little over a year ago.  It seems like I must have done something correct because the entire profile used to be filled out.  Damn.  That's gonna be a bitch to redo if I ever decide to use that again.

And Blacky, I disagree.  I think Nick started that thread in the same way he started some of the other of his attention grabbing notorious ramblings, he may have a kernel of truth in that story but he needs to man up and, even anonymously, start dropping bombs on his uncle with the various labor boards in his state.  If it was a marriage bond I could understand his reluctance but blood?  Hell, I'd turn my own kids in for being assholes like that.

Finally, I offer proof of all this as confirming what I previously have said about good ole NickPee.  I was trying to engage with Sebastian and others and Nick derailed this.

Back to shuffling hordes if you please.

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As far as "genre shows" go, personally I think this show is pretty unique. I mean with The Walking Dead, as bad as it gets, at least I don't feel like handing over my horror geek card after watching an episode. Doesn't feel like I'm betraying my Romero/Fulci/Manchester Morgue roots. Whereas I'll eat a goddamn bullet before I let True Blood or Supernatural into my life.

Walking Dead isn't a patch on Supernatural. Devin had a similar attitude for a long time and he's now a full-on convert.

I will always be devastated that the Jason Voorhees episode of SUPERNATURAL fell apart.

http://www.omaha.com/article/20111025/NEWS/310259982

This article, about a local zombie survival group, was in my local paper a week ago. Setting up zombie walks/runs for fun is one thing, but are these people for real?

@Tzu

I think you have a nice OKCupid profile! Why was he posting it to get at you?

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"Half your posts on this board are hyperbole"

 

Anyone? Anyone else? 

 

And yeah, what did the OKCupid thing have to do with anything? How does that prove you're right in an argument about a zombie TV show? I met my girlfriend online, is that somehow less admirable than picking her up at a bar, or meeting her at the mall? How childish and obtuse. 

Love you babe! Best random IM agreeing with you about how some douchebag was being a douchebag ever! <3

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@Tzu

I think you have a nice OKCupid profile! Why was he posting it to get at you?

 

Yeah, that was a very douchey thing to do. Especially in an argument about a fucking zombie tv show. 

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Love you babe! Best random IM agreeing with you about how some douchebag was being a douchebag ever! <3

 

I guess I just never get used to the amount of childish shit that goes on on the internet. Hey, just so you know, the medium we met on is evidently LESS admirable than other mediums, so we're going to have to make something up to tell people, I guess.

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Walking Dead isn't a patch on Supernatural. Devin had a similar attitude for a long time and he's now a full-on convert.

 

It pains me to admit it, but this is correct. If you liked Buffy and X Files, there's really no reason you wouldn't dig Supernatural, despite its myriad issues.

I have seen seasons 1-5 of Supernatural and it is in no way as good as The Walking Dead. It doesn't aim as high so people expect less of it. There are many terrible, terrible episodes of that show. It isn't even in the same playing field as The Walking Dead in terms of quality. You may enjoy its empty calories better than The Walking Dead, but to claim that it is "a better show" is absurd.

You aren't wrong about Supernatural. I'm kind of embarrassed every time I watch it. But you gotta be watching a different Walking Dead than me, because as far as I'm concerned, the only parts of it that really work are the empty calorie parts. Just wanting to be taken more seriously does not make it better.

The fact that Wayward and Hyrbris are a couple is a more interesting and dramatic twist than what happens on Walking Dead 99 percent of the time.

Oh, that is cool. I must have missed it in all the skimming of bullshit I've done in the last couple pages of this thread.

For your new, more awesome how-we-met story, I suggest Hybris caught Wayward trying to steal his car. Or it was the end result of an elaborate revenge scheme against her then-boyfriend, Chuck.

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You aren't wrong about Supernatural. I'm kind of embarrassed every time I watch it. But you gotta be watching a different Walking Dead than me, because as far as I'm concerned, the only parts of it that really work are the empty calorie parts. Just wanting to be taken more seriously does not make it better.

That's fair. The heavy drama parts of The Walking Dead work for me about half the time. The heavy drama attempts on Supernatural are the same tired beat of Sam and Dean having some stupid conflict every time and they are ALWAYS laughable. The metaphor I would use is that Supernatural is a fast food chain and The Walking Dead is a high end restaurant that could probably use a better kitchen staff. I'm not going to say that McDonald's is the better place to eat just because it's more consistent. 

We'll come up with something suitable. But it shouldn't be wholly unanticipated. We did drop hints and foreshadowing, sometimes blatantly, other times not - that dead lead to a surprising, if reasonable conclusion. UNLIKE THE WALKING DEAD. 

I tease, mostly. 

I think the food analogy is apt for comparing Supernatural with The Walking Dead. The former is a fastfood place with a really great burger. Like, surprisingly great. Comparable to the places that aren't chains. You don't go for steaks, you go to enjoy this really decent burger. The Walking Dead is a fancier, more exclusive restaurant that offers up specialties....but tends to be subpar - not as good as it could be. It's either the staff, the presentation, or the ingredients. It's not SO bad as to make you walk out - but just leaves you unimpressed. Yet it's not bad enough to never go back again - hey, it's an alright place. Just sort of meh. It's got a steady clientele, but nothing stellar...unlike that AMAZING place on the beach with the perfect filet mignon. (Mad Men, or Breaking Bad)

n/m

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Originally Posted by Andrew Merriweather 

The people obsessing over power and running water must order their cowl components in bulk. Just to avoid suspicion.

Eh, it's not really a big deal plotwise, I suppose - but it is if it jars you out of the episode. 

First off, it's odd for someone to have all the comforts of the 21st century in the middle of zombie apocalypse. 

Secondly, it could be resolved, or merely teased if it leads to a larger plot point, with a quick throwaway exchange. Obviously Rick, Laurie, and Shane have their hands full and probably may not even notice; but Glenn showing up later would be the perfect "hey, you have power? Where's your security*?" asker. 

* - of course, given the main group's security measures in camp and while marooned on the highway, maybe a defensive perimeter is as unknown on this world as a zombie movie

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Originally Posted by DamnDirtyApe 

http://www.omaha.com/article/20111025/NEWS/310259982

 

This article, about a local zombie survival group, was in my local paper a week ago. Setting up zombie walks/runs for fun is one thing, but are these people for real?

I recall Max Brooks saying that when he wrote [i]The Zombie Survival Guide[/i], all he really did was take your basic disaster survival handbook and tweak it a little. 

So yeah, preparing for "zombie apocalypse" is ridiculous. BEING prepared for some sort of civilization crash, probably more sensible than we'd like to admit. 

The above was written before I read the article....it looks like people involved are learning survival skills and self-defense, and doing it in a more-fun-than-usual way:

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Originally Posted by Arjen Rudd 

Oh, that is cool. I must have missed it in all the skimming of bullshit I've done in the last couple pages of this thread.

 

For your new, more awesome how-we-met story, I suggest Hybris caught Wayward trying to steal his car. Or it was the end result of an elaborate revenge scheme against her then-boyfriend, Chuck.

Chuck was such a jerk.

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Originally Posted by Sebastian OB 

That's fair. The heavy drama parts of The Walking Dead work for me about half the time. The heavy drama attempts on Supernatural are the same tired beat of Sam and Dean having some stupid conflict every time and they are ALWAYS laughable. The metaphor I would use is that Supernatural is a fast food chain and The Walking Dead is a high end restaurant that could probably use a better kitchen staff. I'm not going to say that McDonald's is the better place to eat just because it's more consistent. 

I could not disagree more. I  believe that EVERYTHING about Supernatural is better than Walking Dead, and that anyone who honestly thinks Walking Dead is a "high end restaurant" or whatever is simply being suckered by the pedigree. Supernatural, like Buffy, X-Files and a bunch of other GOOD genre shows has a sense of humour about itself while Walking Dead doesn't, and while there are some terrible attempt at heavy drama, they are no worse than The Walking Dead's attempts. If you seriously want to compare their writing, call me when an episode of Walking Dead achieves half of what some of the Edlund-penned Supernatural eps have.

Oh Eviatar. <3

Anyways, to be off topic re: the xombie survival groups - I used to post at zombiehunters.org (Zombie Squad) and it was pretty much the same reason as above: I live in an area prone to hurricanes, and they use the ZPAW (Zombie post apocalyptic wasteland) as a sort of gateway into talking about serious stuff such as that. There were some folks who posted about their experience in Katrina in Louisiana whose 'preparation for the upcoming zombie apocalypse' worked in their favor in the aftermath. As someone who has had to stock up on canned goods, fill every receptacle with water, etc...I sort of dig it. It's a fun way to prep for those sort of things without being all doom and gloom.