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post #1551 of 2200
"I saw eagles"
post #1552 of 2200

I loved that the Dean came back to say he may of overdid the outfit.



post #1553 of 2200

I think the Dreamtorium stuff is wearing a bit thin; it was a lot more fun when it was Troy and Abed being wacky behind closed doors, where we'd only catch quick glimpses.  There was a certain level of mystery, and we didn't need to know exactly what goes on in there.  Now that we do know exactly what goes on in there - two adults playing make-believe - it becomes less fun/cute and more embarrassing/sad.  I guess that's kinda the point, but it feels like a misfire to me.

 

I was ok with the episode though.  There were some nice character moments and I really liked the Annie / Abed pairing.  Troy's truth serum meltdown was fantastic.  I think my favorite gag was the group giving Pierce an encouraging round of applause when he tells them he made a last second adjustment and avoided sitting on his balls.  

post #1554 of 2200

What did you think was going on in the Dreamatorium?

post #1555 of 2200

I actually really love the Pierce character this year. Still horrible, yet more bumbling, and everyone just accepts him a bit more, including himself.

 

I wouldn't say this is one of the great ones, but it's exactly the kind of episode that I love them doing. It's incredibly smart, if you can just find the right mental frequency. It's also the kind of thing I hope they never stop doing, even if it gets them cancelled. If nothing else, no one else on a major network does anything near this weird. This was verging on Adult Swim weird. And the cast is still tremendous.

post #1556 of 2200

It's exactly what was advertised, but it's funnier in concept and more disconcerting in practice.

post #1557 of 2200

I loved it. And I don't understand how this can be described as meta or crawling up its own ass. That is exactly how Annie and Abed would actually communicate.

post #1558 of 2200

Some time during S2, I remember wishing that the show would feature more Troy and Abed storylines. Now that Community is officially Troy and Abed's Inspector Spacetime Community!, I may be regretting that wish.

 

This was the second best episode featuring a virtual manifestation of Abed's imagination. In theory, I liked how it pulled together Annie and Abed, and how Annie was able to help Abed with his breakthrough. But we've seen a very similar thing done much better before. Chevy's final scene was hilarious, though.

post #1559 of 2200
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What did you think was going on in the Dreamatorium?

 

Well, exactly what we saw.  But a quick scene here and there was amusing.  An entire episode devoted to it was sad and depressing.  Again, I'm sure that was kinda the point, but it didn't really work for me. 

post #1560 of 2200

I think this was the first truly bad episode they've done. It didn't work for me at all. Like the dean's outfit, it was just too much.

post #1561 of 2200

 

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I think this was the first truly bad episode they've done. It didn't work for me at all. Like the dean's outfit, it was just too much.

 

I did find the dean's outfit groanworthy when he entered, but I chuckled when he came back and started doubting his decision, then LOL-ed when he actually made new friends at the bank.

 

And yes, they need to pull Troy farther out of Abed's warped orbit.  Abed's Notbergers has been established enough that we understand that he can't really function in the wider world, so its okay for him to play make believe.  But Troy could easily be a real boy, so seeing him withdraw from reality is much sadder.  Of course, with his recent stuff with Britta and Layborn, the show is already starting to address this, and I expect it will be a big part of the close of the season.

post #1562 of 2200

I've never doubted this show's intellect, and I still laughed several times last night, but I'm starting to not give a shit anymore. More than ever, the show's scripts serve as therapy sessions for Dan Harmon. It's probably not fair to separate the art from the artist, but the thrust of the show's drama has SO MUCH to do with behind-the-scenes goings-on and message board speculation that it's become tiring for me.

 

Sadly, I'm not the best writer on this board, so I'm probably not explaining myself well, but last night gave me a feeling of schadenfreude more than anything else. I felt like I was watching Dan Harmon lecture himself for 30 minutes. 

post #1563 of 2200

I am a bit behind.

 

"Nom de corndog."

 

Templeton Ferrari III

 

She's whipped by an imaginary douche!

 

I really liked the Carnivale Episode. Off to watch last night's episode.

post #1564 of 2200

This ep would have been a lot better if there was a strong b-story.

post #1565 of 2200

I enjoyed it. Loved the effects of the dreamatorium and the basic storyline, but yeah, it wasn't very funny.

post #1566 of 2200

I just want someone to wise up and force Harmon into writing a sci-fi show. I have a feeling he'd knock it out of the park so hard they'd have to cancel the game.

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I've never doubted this show's intellect, and I still laughed several times last night, but I'm starting to not give a shit anymore. More than ever, the show's scripts serve as therapy sessions for Dan Harmon. It's probably not fair to separate the art from the artist, but the thrust of the show's drama has SO MUCH to do with behind-the-scenes goings-on and message board speculation that it's become tiring for me.

 

Sadly, I'm not the best writer on this board, so I'm probably not explaining myself well, but last night gave me a feeling of schadenfreude more than anything else. I felt like I was watching Dan Harmon lecture himself for 30 minutes. 

 

You explained it well enough.  I agree for the most part, except for the fact that I don't think I laughed once last night.  It all just seemed too forced to me.  I think it was the forst time for me it felt like a chore getting through the episode.  I'm not anywhere near giving up on the show, though.  Still one of the best on right now.  But if any episode were to start the internet backlash, this would probably be it.

post #1568 of 2200

The internet backlash started in season 2.

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The internet backlash started in season 2.

 

What?  Christ, I feel like Pierce Hawthorne right now.  I thought this was the internet's favorite show.

post #1570 of 2200

It's half of the internet's favorite show, so the other half has to hate it.

post #1571 of 2200

These kinds of episodes certainly don't do the show any favors in trying to expand the show's fanbase. 

 

I still think Chaos Theory is the best episode they've done.  That shit was amazing.  For some reason, this alternate reality stuff felt like a bit of a retread for me.

post #1572 of 2200
It sounds like this one didn't work for many people, but I did want to stake out a claim on the 'really enjoyed it' side of the pitch. Not one of the best ever or anything, but I found it interesting and clever and staggeringly ambitious.
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....I found it interesting and clever and staggeringly ambitious.

 

 

I can wholly agree with this part. Last week's episode (and the week before) worked far, far better for me - I felt like they were more even and less....lesson-y than this week's. I won't say this was a bad episode. I think it will benefit as part of an S3 marathon watch; it'll be better when considered part of the whole rather than a standalone episode. Seeing the few that come before it, and what comes after, should help this.

 

It remains interesting to me how peripheral Winger has become to the show. On one hand, that's a testament to the strength of the writing, that the show can evolve like that and truly be an ensemble piece. On the other, I've always liked the Winger-centric episodes, and love McHale, so wish they weren't so infrequent.

post #1574 of 2200

Troy bringing up that he loves "butt stuff" was a nice callback to Season One:

 

post #1575 of 2200
Well Winger served as the straight man, and entry point for the 1st season. He has thus evolved to be part of the group. That said, most of America needs some sort of boring straight guy to ground them in reality and serve as a basis of difference for other characters.

I couldn't place my finger on it, but Annie looked even hotter this episode. Maybe it was her being a little restrained and it served to counter Abed's weirdness.
post #1576 of 2200

The 80s era Doctor Who like graphics for Inspector Space Time was a good touch.

post #1577 of 2200
Thread Starter 

Apparently Harmon is nailing @ErinMcGathy (just saw a pic of her he tweeted).

post #1578 of 2200

I approve of his taste.

post #1579 of 2200

I was under the impression that the Law & Order episode was the finale, but apparently it's next week's episode.  The title alone already has me cracking up: Basic Lupine Urology.

 

Brief teaser here.

post #1580 of 2200

Just rewatched the previous episode and I'm pretty sure the Dean's "I may have gone too far with this one" is supposed to be metacommentary.
 

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I was under the impression that the Law & Order episode was the finale, but apparently it's next week's episode.  The title alone already has me cracking up: Basic Lupine Urology.

 

Brief teaser here.

 

 

I'm pretty sure there are still 4 or 5 episodes left.

 

post #1582 of 2200

I know.  Just thought the Law & Order episode was the season closer, but apparently it's not.  Although, if Rob Corddry doesn't show up next week, it means we're in for more than one episode with a courtroom theme.

post #1583 of 2200

Oh sorry, I misunderstood that sentence. You meant next week is the Law & Order ep, I thought you were saying next week is the finale.

 

I think I saw somewhere that the finale has to do with Chang taking over, though that might be the eps leading up to it. I know there are two near the end with titles like "Course Listing Unavailable" which implies that craziness will be happening.

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Just rewatched the previous episode and I'm pretty sure the Dean's "I may have gone too far with this one" is supposed to be metacommentary.
 

 

I think these days it's easier to pick out the stories that aren't supposed to be metacommentary.

post #1585 of 2200

Good article: Community is TV's most ambitious show

 

 

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I can’t think of many shows in the history of American network TV that have managed Community’s trick of being pretty much like every sitcom you’ve ever seen and like nothing you’ve seen anywhere, in any medium. It’s at once a goofy, shenanigans-driven comedy, a self-aware commentary on pop culture, and an examination of ethical and philosophical concepts, and it demands to be viewed on all three levels simultaneously; that’s a lot to ask of people who are mainly looking to unwind on Thursday night.

 

This show is not your typical comedy though it often dresses up as one. And I can see how people can admire the show but ultimately not find it funny. Fortunately for me, it works. I laugh pretty consistently while appreciating the character work and meta-commentary. That said, I agree that this show is not suited for a traditional network slot. I could see Community thriving on a smaller network a la Louie. It's a little too specific to ever reach mass appeal.

post #1586 of 2200

This has been my mantra when it comes to Community from very early on. Whatever they're doing, it is definitely not an ordinary or even an extraordinary sitcom. 

post #1587 of 2200

"Who do you think inseminated her?!"

 

I really enjoyed this episode. It is all about the characters. I am glad I am watching this as it airs. I can say I was there when.

post #1588 of 2200

Upon re-watch, this episode moved in to elite status for me.

post #1589 of 2200

Yeah, its pretty great. It's stuff like this that blows my mind (quote from link I posted above):

 

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And as in “Critical Film Studies” — still the show’s aesthetic peak, though this episode came close — you got to see the show’s actors show off their chops in service of a story. When we were watching Abed “play” Jeff Winger, we were not seeing Jeff, but Abed’s conception of Jeff, which was plenty intriguing. But there was something equally thrilling happening at the level of pure performance: We were seeing Joel McHale play Jeff Winger as imagined by Abed. McHale was channeling aspects of Danny Pudi’s screen presence (the intense stare, the birdlike head movements and jabbing hand gestures, the slightly clipped delivery) even as he was playing “himself.”

 


 

post #1590 of 2200

Not to mention the seamless audio editing of Abed's voice into each character's voice. This really was a remarkable episode.

post #1591 of 2200

It was technically impressive, but I think what I'll remember most about it is the premium Donglover meltdown ("I just like to know they're comfortable!"),

post #1592 of 2200

 

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It was technically impressive, but I think what I'll remember most about it is the premium Donglover meltdown ("I just like to know they're comfortable!"),

 

"I didn't get inception! Oh, so many layers!"

post #1593 of 2200

Preview of tomorrow night's "L&O"-esque title sequence

 

All I need now is a "DONK DONK!!"

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All I need now is a "DONK DONK!!"

 

Donk Donk.

 

Also, Troy's Spiderman tie, Abed's Inspector Spacetime lapel pin, Magnitude, and a great Mystery Team reference.  Can't wait.

post #1595 of 2200

So question, who do we kill for the "hey lets setup the L&O episode at the same time as the NFL draft".  We know full well we should be happy with a .5 right guys.

 

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So question, who do we kill for the "hey lets setup the L&O episode at the same time as the NFL draft".  We know full well we should be happy with a .5 right guys.

 

 

Are we really expecting the draft to make a significant dent in the ratings?

post #1597 of 2200

 

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Are we really expecting the draft to make a significant dent in the ratings?

 

Yeah, I'm not seeing the NFL Draft and Community having a big crossover audience.

 

God, who even fucking WATCHES the NFL Draft anyway?  Shit's like watching paint dry while announcers discuss how certain areas dry faster than others.

post #1598 of 2200

If your counting the draft as competition, throw in 2 game sevens in the NHL, too.

 

 

ETA: Never mind, Devils/Florida is at 8:30.

 

And I watch the draft, though I won't see much tonight since I'll be watching the Devils.

post #1599 of 2200

I've got the Draft, Community and the Grizzlies final game of the season which will determine if they get home court advantage in round 1 off the playoffs.  Busy night.

post #1600 of 2200

 

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Yeah, I'm not seeing the NFL Draft and Community having a big crossover audience.

 

God, who even fucking WATCHES the NFL Draft anyway?  Shit's like watching paint dry while announcers discuss how certain areas dry faster than others.

 

Considering the NFL Draft is a yearly event I image you will have fans watch the draft live and tivo community.  I do see the idea that numbers will go down overall for most shows that ESPN will pick up.  I'm not quite getting the crossover audience comment, I image there are people who both like community and football.  Or are you just saying that the community audience is more loyal to the show in general and will choose it over anything?

 

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