THE MAN OF STEEL Pre Release Thread - Page 7

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Originally Posted by Dr Harford 

I'm not sure why they didn't put out the comic con footage. It had more action and better music.

Hopefully that will be released in HD at some point as well.  Same goes for the teaser with Crowe's narration.  Oddly enough, the Apple trailer site where I watched it not ten minutes ago seems to have pulled it.  Put it up too early, perhaps.

My first thought was, "Hey, the last movie was widely criticized for being too introspective and emo.  Let's double down on that, and associate it with Gandalf dying as a bonus!"  After mulling it over for a few minutes, though, I kind of love it.  As Spike and Justin pointed out, it almost feels like a Malick movie, up until the title/flying reveal, which is just awesome.

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Originally Posted by ScottieFerguson 

The Comic Con footage used Thin Red Line, yes, but the theatrical teaser is using music from LOTR, particularly Gandalf's fall from the end of the Khazad Dum sequence.

And that's enough nerdiness for today.

Well shit.

Why is there a flying guy in the latest Dockers ad?

For anyone who hasn't yet seen them, you can see the International Teaser Trailer (narrated by Crowe) and the Standard Teaser Trailer (narrated by Costner) on Youtube. I'm not sure if they're meant to be there or if they'll be pulled down, but there you go. I prefer Costner's myself.

Not quite what I was expecting but interesting, nonetheless. I'm definitely looking forward to the actual trailer.

Does the Comic Con footage show Superman without the red undies?   That could be why it was cut the way it was.   People aren't ready for a Superman without the underwear on the outside.

The image of him in the air breaking the sound barrier really irked the rational mind in me.  I guess if I can suspend disbelief of a dude flying, I should just accept him breaking the sound barrier without destroying his human-looking body... but just a weird image anyway.

Not sure how I feel about the trailer, will have to see more before I decide.  Not really digging the sombre tone though, kind of fed up with it to be honest.  I'm hoping The Avengers would usher in a more positive vibe for these kinds of stories.  Right now we've got Batman, Spiderman and Superman all moping about in depression.  Movies reflecting the current era and country of origin I suppose.

Oh Lord, that teaser. So Snyder seems to have watched a bunch of Malick films. Guess that's something. Otherwise that was a seriously self-important and boring teaser.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xs9i71_superman-man-of-steel-2013-comic-con-2013_shortfilms?search_algo=1

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Originally Posted by cognizant 

The image of him in the air breaking the sound barrier really irked the rational mind in me.  I guess if I can suspend disbelief of a dude flying, I should just accept him breaking the sound barrier without destroying his human-looking body... but just a weird image anyway.

 

 

Um, you do know he is Superman, right?  Ya know, Man of Steel, faster then a speeding bullet, able to stop a locomotive and leap buildings.  

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Originally Posted by Joseph P. Brenner 

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xs9i71_superman-man-of-steel-2013-comic-con-2013_shortfilms?search_algo=1

Even though it was postage stamp sized, that was sooooo much better than the teaser we got before Batman.   Maybe they're saving that ammo for the Holiday Movie Season?    Although why hold back that much eye candy when it could play in front of the biggest audience of the year?

I like em.  Yes, the cinematography is a little pretentious but it looks great.  Say what you will about Snyder, but the guy can shoot a movie, and can shoot action.  You know it's gonna look good.

My fear has been that Snyder's ineptitude in other areas of filmmaking would undermine the project.  It's hard to say from the brief glimpses here.  A bit somber and "grounded", sure, but so far so coherent.  Color me optimistic.

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Originally Posted by Monster Pete 

 

Um, you do know he is Superman, right?  Ya know, Man of Steel, faster then a speeding bullet, able to stop a locomotive and leap buildings.  

As an aside, there is an actual un-super human being planning to break the sound barrier in freefall.

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Originally Posted by dynamotv 

The teaser looked like a perfume commercial and it still managed to make me more excited for it than Superman Returns.   Looks like we're finally out of the Donnerverse....

I'm curious as to what exactly makes you say that, because so far this seems very much grounded in the whole overly self-important Space Messiah thing just like Donner's version. The obsession with Jor-El is a bit of a giveaway; I realize he's a big part of the origin, but the movies (and Smallville) have always put him front and center in a way that the comics didn't. Because they had him played by Brando, obviously. The recent batch of Chris Sims articles about the Donner films definitely made me more aware of some of their flaws, the fact that Superman needs to get Jor-El's advice all the time being a big one.

That's not to say I'm not oddly interested in this. Superman definitely needs a jolt of adrenaline as a franchise. The key thing is if they remember that he's not supposed to be, dare I say, a dick. As much as everyone is apparently too cool for Superman these days, if you get the characters' boundless compassion and optimism right people WILL respond to him. I'd argue Captain America, which had a similar note of ultra-heroism going on, proved that. Snyder's the guy who thought zombies had to run, and who thinks Rorschach is a badass, so I'm not really able to give him the benefit of the doubt when it comes to making Superman a boy scout type (he's already got Hip Young Superman, a trope I kind of loathe) but it's so essential to the character that hopefully even Snyder won't be able to screw it up.

My biggest problem with Snyder remains the fact that he's too obsessed with making his movies feel like comics. The speed-ramping and weirdly stiff performances seem to be part of a desire to "bring panels to life" which I think is misbegotten, like he's too hung up on Sin City. Ironically, since as far as I know this isn't based on a particular comic, this may not be an issue this time around.

It's hilarious watching Snyder so obviously trying to imitate Batman Begins.  Malick?  You people think Snyder watches Malick's films?  lol

The main thing that interests me is the possibility of big Superman action from Snyder. I know it's early and there's probably a ton of cg work that needs to be done, but they started production on this almost a year ago. I was hoping to see something more than a somber commercial for DEADLIEST CATCH.

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Originally Posted by wadew1 

. I was hoping to see something more than a somber commercial for DEADLIEST CATCH.

LOL....first thing I thought.

They should have gotten Mike Rowe do the voiceover.

Noticed Jon Peters name as executive producer. He also had a producer credit on Superman Returns. While I know his input is nil, does he have some kind of long term contract in which he gets to be a producer on all Superman live-action movies till the end of time?

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Originally Posted by Sebastian OB 

Oh Lord, that teaser. So Snyder seems to have watched a bunch of Malick films. Guess that's something. Otherwise that was a seriously self-important and boring teaser.

I picked up on the Malick vibe as well, but it worked for me. I guess I was excited that another somber superhero movies is coming to fill The Batman void.

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Originally Posted by Ambler 

It's hilarious watching Snyder so obviously trying to imitate Batman Begins.  Malick?  You people think Snyder watches Malick's films?  lol

yes, I'm sure Snyder just drinks Red Bull, snorts coke, and watches reruns of American Gladiators all day. 

I mean, shit, Malick, Batman Begins... we've seen what, 60 seconds of footage?  Teaser was good, ... the shots of a boy running around in a cape hits home for me, considering I see my son do that right now, and I remember doing that as a kid.  Based on this, they have my 15 bucks. 

I wonder if in this Superman universe if fictional super heroes exist? Then it would make sense for someone who stumbled upon awesome power to dress like that, but I would just fly around wearing my jeans and a t-shirt.
 

Yeah, the whole Malick comparison is overdone. It just looks really pretty. Actually, as much as I liked the visual design for Watchmen, this might end up being his most visually pleasing movie yet. Like with Watchmen, there's actual color variety! It's not just browns, grays and reds!

Otherwise, obviously we're not getting action yet, but I like Cavill's physicality already. And you bet your ass I'm gonna check out a movie with THAT cast.

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Originally Posted by Navidson 

I wonder if in this Superman universe if fictional super heroes exist? Then it would make sense for someone who stumbled upon awesome power to dress like that, but I would just fly around wearing my jeans and a t-shirt.
 

You might change your tune after you're forced to land naked several times.  I don't think cotton jeans and tshirt are built for supersonic or hypersonic flight.

I get more of a Pearl Harbor/Michael Bay feeling from that teaser.

Indeed. It looks and feels like the type of faux Americana bullshit you see in a TV commercial for phone companies. In an ideal world we'd be getting a Max Fleischer style Superman movie starring Jon Hamm.

I hate being reminded of this

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Originally Posted by SinemaWasteland 

Indeed. It looks and feels like the type of faux Americana bullshit you see in a TV commercial for phone companies. In an ideal world we'd be getting a Max Fleischer style Superman movie starring Jon Hamm.

 

There's only one thing for which that image is ideal. It involves the daydreams of housewives and gay men the world over, and has nothing to do with a big budget Hollywood film.

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Originally Posted by Bailey 

 

There's only one thing for which that image is ideal. It involves the daydreams of housewives and gay men the world over, and has nothing to do with a big budget Hollywood film.

And yet there was nothing wrong with that image when it was Christopher Reeve wearing the suit because if you think that's homoerotic then I think you're projecting your own closeted sexuality. Besides, it's no more gay then this...

I'm not calling it "gay", you idiot.  I'm calling it silly.  Because it looks silly.  Like Jon Hamm going to a Halloween party.

It's just that Jon Hamm reminds me of the Alex Ross version of Superman.

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Got the Crowe version infront of my showing of DK. I think I like Costner's VO better. It was ok but I would have almost prefered a simpler teaser that just showed the flying bit and logo reveal from the end.

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Originally Posted by Bailey 

I'm not calling it "gay", you idiot.  I'm calling it silly.  Because it looks silly.  Like Jon Hamm going to a Halloween party.

 

Baily QUOTE - "There's only one thing for which that image is ideal. It involves the daydreams of housewives and gay men the world over, and has nothing to do with a big budget Hollywood film."

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Originally Posted by Bitches Leave 

I get more of a Pearl Harbor/Michael Bay feeling from that teaser.

Glad I wasn't the only one. I can sorta see the Malick influence, but it felt a lot more like Bay to me. I don't mean that as a bad thing. If there's one superhero I think Bay could have fun with and do a decent job, it's Supes. The BEGINS influence was also obviously all over this.

Having watched the international trailer, too, I think I prefer Costner's voiceover. Crowe's is solid - he has a great voice for it - but I like the slightly more oblique nature of Costner's.

Color me mildly curious and interested.

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Originally Posted by Monster Pete 

 

Um, you do know he is Superman, right?  Ya know, Man of Steel, faster then a speeding bullet, able to stop a locomotive and leap buildings.  

I preferred the way Neo was depicted in Reloaded, leaving swirling clouds and wrecked city streets in his wake.  I wonder if this movie will have the same effect?

As for the contrail thing, my brain is just telling me it looks goofy, as if they shopped Cavill over an image of a jet leaving the trails in the sky.

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Originally Posted by SinemaWasteland 

 

Gah, Max Fleicher is probably right but it does looks like a homeless Superman.

  The teaser did nothing for me. I want to see Superman be Superman; not hitch hiking and working on a fishing boat.

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Originally Posted by Chaz 

  The teaser did nothing for me. I want to see Superman be Superman; not hitch hiking and working on a fishing boat.

Tough times for newspaper journalists.

Seen some fanboys claim how this blows the Superman Returns teaser outta the water.

I responded by beating their balls to a pulp. The sheer stupidity of such statement rendered me immune from legal prosecution.

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Originally Posted by Dr Harford 

One thing I don't like are the contrails coming out of Superman's feet as he flies. That doesn't make much sense at all, unless I'm wrong about how contrails are formed.

Contrails are just water vapor.  High pressure + low pressure = condensation... errr or something like that.

The Malick laundry scenes were a nice surprise, especially when the boy puts his hands on his hips. It's too bad the rest of the trailer aped Batman Begins, right down to the boring ass font.  The tone seems way too somber for Superman but it's only a teaser.  I did like the way the clouds kind of unfurl around Supes at the very beginning of the money shot. 

The reason they put contrails in the teaser is because they did that in the Iron Man teaser. Understand that there is no art to this movie and that extends to the marketing. They're simply making another one to jump on the reboot/origin story bangwagon. They've hired an unimaginative choice for Director and he's going to give the movie all the mock Americana sentimentalistic drivel expected like the Michael Bay clone that he is.

You know, I really HATE Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow but I think they should have given Superman to Kerry Conran because Sky Captain has the type of aesthetic that I want to see from a Superman movie. But with a richer color palette. A Kerry Conran Directed, Max Fleischer styled Superman with Jon Hamm in the role would be fucking perfect!